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Posted: 2 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: PhoenixRising

Because everyone other than Akshara has acknowledged their mistakes in the story and she keeps getting a free pass from the writers so it’s really annoying when being the FL she keeps calling others out on the same mistakes but never reflecting on her own!

Manjari says that she has done many mistakes, but she keeps on repeating the same mistakes. Then what is the use of acknowledging her mistakes. Only difference is Akshara has not explicitly accepted that she was wrong and she repeats her behaviour pattern

If Manjari realises that she did a mistake of over reacting on WD leading to separation and the whole Abhinav saga started, why she is repeating her mistake of over reacting over this baby? Doesn't she realise that her son also suffered after separation? Why she wants to repeat the mistake of coming between her son and Akshara and not letting them take their own decisions?

To me, acknowledging mistakes does not make any sense unless you make sure that you don't repeat the mistakes.

Here, Manjari asking Akshara to choose family of three over the baby and for that purpose manipulating Abhir is much bigger an issue. Abhir is a child. You are instilling a wrong perception in his mind against his own mother and unborn sibling will stay with him for his lifetime. Does she realise what mistake she is going to do in this case?

She was controlling Abhimanyu, now she wants to control Abhir

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Posted: 2 years ago
#72

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Good that u agree that goenkas are a pathetic family…😃and Akshu was not wrong in not coming back to her fanily that time!!

@bold… Akshu DID NOT TRAP Accha aadmi.., she laid the facts… straight and clear….it was his decision to accept the proposal! And he did…

@blue… again my main question… y does manjari not TALK TO HER SON!!! Y trouble Akshu…. Jao apne bete se Poocho , condition rakho… kasam lo etc etc…. Y TROUBLE AKSHU!!!


Imagine after white day still there is no change in maa beta. Abhimanyu atleast toned down his attitude but still his mother is taking decisions on behalf of him....Should Ak really risk to become daughter in law of Manjari?

Edited by Sushma_Reddy - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#73

Manjari don't have issue with Abhimanyu marrying Arohi for Ruhi(who is daughter of Neil / not her blood related) but problem with unborn kid because now her son's happiness matters to her..👏👏👏


When Neil died , she pleaded Arohi to keep the child not even considering Arohi future but the unborn kid is obstacle for her grown ass child happiness...


She herself donno her son that he is capable to taking care of his wife child with her past .....question is does she really know her son? Or even know what he wants?

Edited by Sushma_Reddy - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#74

The ph has some deep rooted issues about adoption for sure coz in almost all their shows any child not related by blood to both parents or one parent is treated like crap and is given some complex be they a main character or a supporting one like its some horrible thing and you deserve to deal with obstacles in life.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: manny136

The ph has some deep rooted issues about adoption for sure coz in almost all their shows any child not related by blood to both parents or one parent is treated like crap and is given some complex be they a main character or a supporting one like its some horrible thing and you deserve to deal with obstacles in life.


The ph is stuck stuck with blood is thinker than water nonsense.....


I think they drink blood when they are thirsty instead of water....

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Posted: 2 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: Lethamukund

Manjari says that she has done many mistakes, but she keeps on repeating the same mistakes. Then what is the use of acknowledging her mistakes. Only difference is Akshara has not explicitly accepted that she was wrong and she repeats her behaviour pattern

If Manjari realises that she did a mistake of over reacting on WD leading to separation and the whole Abhinav saga started, why she is repeating her mistake of over reacting over this baby? Doesn't she realise that her son also suffered after separation? Why she wants to repeat the mistake of coming between her son and Akshara and not letting them take their own decisions?

To me, acknowledging mistakes does not make any sense unless you make sure that you don't repeat the mistakes.

Here, Manjari asking Akshara to choose family of three over the baby and for that purpose manipulating Abhir is much bigger an issue. Abhir is a child. You are instilling a wrong perception in his mind against his own mother and unborn sibling will stay with him for his lifetime. Does she realise what mistake she is going to do in this case?

She was controlling Abhimanyu, now she wants to control Abhir

Akshara has also neglected Abhir’s health on multiple occasions(hesitation before getting the best available doctor since he is her ex, more concerned about forging certificates rather than his surgery, giving false details to doctor in fear of getting exposed) and even emotionally (she was more bothered about Abhinav’s insecurities than Abhir’s identity crisis probably because she was afraid he would open heartedly accept Abhimanyu in his life, made him believe he is a burden). If we start comparing Manjiri and Akshara’s actions we will get no where. But if we see the intent behind them, Manjiri is a better mother to Abhimanyu than Akshara is to Abhir in my opinion.
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Posted: 2 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: Sushma_Reddy

Manjari don't have issue with Abhimanyu marrying Arohi for Ruhi(who is daughter of Neil / not her blood related) but problem with unborn kid because now her son's happiness matters to her..👏👏👏


When Neil died , she pleaded Arohi to keep the child not even considering Arohi future buy the unborn kid is obstacle for her grown ass child happiness...


She herself donno her son that he is capable to taking care of his wife child with her past .....question is does she really know her son? Or even know what he wants?


This is the real crux of the Maa-Beta relationship. Manjari as a mother has not understood what brings real happiness to her son. She decides what is good for him, what can make him happy and her son simply agrees to whatever she asks him to do. This pattern is shown since beginning.

This is how most of the Indian mothers behave. And this will work only till your child becomes adult. Once they are adult and educated enough and leading their own life, mother should learn to accept that child is able to manage his/her life. A mother's role in decision making should end there. Manjari has not learned that "letting go".

Actually, what I get the feeling is that in the name of Abhimanyu's happiness, Manjari is trying to fulfil what she wants in Abhimanyu's life and family. She wants a family unit of three, not four because she is not happy to see Abhinav-Akshara child around her. So she is twisting the narrative of khoon....blah blah


Post leap they have shown Abhimanyu as calm, composed and mature. His urge to keep things under his control has almost gone. He has accepted that this is what it is. But Manjari has not changed even a bit. She is the same control freak


Akshara should not take the risk of putting her unborn child in such a family and let the child suffer for lifetime

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Posted: 2 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: PhoenixRising

Akshara has also neglected Abhir’s health on multiple occasions(hesitation before getting the best available doctor since he is her ex, more concerned about forging certificates rather than his surgery, giving false details to doctor in fear of getting exposed) and even emotionally (she was more bothered about Abhinav’s insecurities than Abhir’s identity crisis probably because she was afraid he would open heartedly accept Abhimanyu in his life, made him believe he is a burden). If we start comparing Manjiri and Akshara’s actions we will get no where. But if we see the intent behind them, Manjiri is a better mother to Abhimanyu than Akshara is to Abhir in my opinion.


Is there any instance that AK neglected Abhir or his happiness?


Not convoluted narratives pls...


According to story she was not a bad mother atleast

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Posted: 2 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: PhoenixRising

Akshara has also neglected Abhir’s health on multiple occasions(hesitation before getting the best available doctor since he is her ex, more concerned about forging certificates rather than his surgery, giving false details to doctor in fear of getting exposed) and even emotionally (she was more bothered about Abhinav’s insecurities than Abhir’s identity crisis probably because she was afraid he would open heartedly accept Abhimanyu in his life, made him believe he is a burden). If we start comparing Manjiri and Akshara’s actions we will get no where. But if we see the intent behind them, Manjiri is a better mother to Abhimanyu than Akshara is to Abhir in my opinion.


Akshara's worry for Manjari-Abhimanyu reaction on Abhir's identity (she is well aware of to what extent Maa-Beta can go having experienced WD), her reaction of not thinking of taking Abhir to Abhi can be understood. They must have immediately made a huge drama and tried to snatch away the child.

Abhir was a very happy child, he had a peaceful 6 years with Akshara and Abhinav in Kasauli and the child is not having a single moment of peace after they brought him to UD. Now look at him behaving like a bratty kid

Whole life of Akshara-Abhinav revolved around his happy childhood. They did all possible things to give him a happy childhood.

We can't say Akshara neglected Abhir and was more concerned for Abhinav. She brought in Abhinav to her life only for Abhir and let us not forget that. Let us also not forget that Abhi-Manjari duo only pushed her to the edge that made her to bring in Abhinav in her life. So one way, they are also responsible for the consequences. We can't blame only one party. All of them have equal share of mistakes

Abhinav being insecure is also quite natural looking at the kind of bond they have developed over 6 years. After all he was also a human being, isn't it?

Abhinav Sharma also can have all the human emotions like Abhimanyu Birla and Manjari Birla, right?

Abhinav Sharma was a part of Akshara-Abhir's life and it can not be erased with a just abortion. If Manjari can not accept Akshara with her past, better to ask her son not to get married to Akshara

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Posted: 2 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: Lethamukund


Akshara's worry for Manjari-Abhimanyu reaction on Abhir's identity (she is well aware of to what extent Maa-Beta can go having experienced WD), her reaction of not thinking of taking Abhir to Abhi can be understood. They must have immediately made a huge drama and tried to snatch away the child.

Abhir was a very happy child, he had a peaceful 6 years with Akshara and Abhinav in Kasauli and the child is not having a single moment of peace after they brought him to UD. Now look at him behaving like a bratty kid

Whole life of Akshara-Abhinav revolved around his happy childhood. They did all possible things to give him a happy childhood.

We can't say Akshara neglected Abhir and was more concerned for Abhinav. She brought in Abhinav to her life only for Abhir and let us not forget that. Let us also not forget that Abhi-Manjari duo only pushed her to the edge that made her to bring in Abhinav in her life. So one way, they are also responsible for the consequences. We can't blame only one party. All of them have equal share of mistakes

Abhinav being insecure is also quite natural looking at the kind of bond they have developed over 6 years. After all he was also a human being, isn't it?

Abhinav Sharma also can have all the human emotions like Abhimanyu Birla and Manjari Birla, right?

Abhinav Sharma was a part of Akshara-Abhir's life and it can not be erased with a just abortion. If Manjari can not accept Akshara with her past, better to ask her son not to get married to Akshara

I am nowhere supporting the abortion statement by Manjiri. However, Akshara definitely was more concerned about the truth getting exposed. Abhinav took a firm stand to get Abhir the best doctor(Abhimanyu) for his condition but Akshara didn’t seem perturbed by it. I have seen those scenes quite a few times as I couldn’t believe the FL is portrayed this way!

Also, I am only comparing Manjiri and Akshara as mothers and I am not invalidating either Abhinav’s emotions or Abhimanyu’s.

Edited by PhoenixRising - 2 years ago

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