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Originally posted by: kizh72

Well he is an idiot, that is proved beyond all doubt with this one. I mean ideally I hope he realizes that there is a very high possibility that his drink was spiked with this whole fake pregnancy scenario, plus the info Aman dug out about La. Instead of she is not pregnant, he should've said she faked a pregnancy🤔. This Khushi would've listened if there was any sense to what he is saying. Maybe sense is too much to expect of astute businessmen!

I hope Khushi realizes that she doesn't need a man to find meaning in life. If she wants to have a child, that is also possible in today's times without having sex with a man. Or so many orphaned kids who would be fortunate to have a mom like her. There are plenty of single moms and dads who raise wonderful children. Plus the way she loved Arnav, it would take years to move on from such a thing, and it wouldn't be fair to another person if she is not able to love like that.

And I would tell everyone to stay away from VD, if you get my drift!!!😉

I caught that too. VD is just not happening. Not with Khushi its not.

Assumptions are always going to be worse than the truth. He had plenty of chances to come out with the truth but he always chickened out. When she gets the pictures and puts it together with all the behavior changes she saw, she could only conclude what she did. No wonder she thought he is happy with someone else and she had been replaced in his life.

What a chapter Arpita. You changed the mood entirely. I read it last night and couldn’t sleep thinking about them and the hopeless situation they find themselves in.

I agree with everything Isha and Akansha said.

My heart breaks for both of them.

Regarding Arnav you can hate egotistical and self-centered persons but how can you hate Arnav for being stupid and assuming things. Since when is not able to communicate a crime. Yes he made a mistake in fact several of them and he deserves the guilt and grief he inflicted upon himself and his Khushi but I can’t hate him for it. A long road ahead of them starting with lots of therapy is what I see in their future.

The only reason Lavanya was able to take advantage of him is because she counted on his innate sense of doing the right thing??

Anyway I’m emotionally exhausted to comment anymore.

Arpita, you are a genius to able to take us on this emotional roller coaster and show us the picture with your powerful words!! 👏👏

We see two different manifestations of guilt with him. He felt guilty towards both Khushi and Lavanya, but his actions were totally opposite.

With Lavanya, he was all supportive. He went every time she called. Why did he need to go with her to pick up the reports? She knew how to do that herself. She shed tears, he was comforting her.

With Khushi, it was total avoidance and ignorance. He froze her out. Not one kind word came out of his mouth.

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

Bakwas, I do know enough about male physical anatomy to realize how and when men can get aroused. And things can happen when your inhibitions are down. But was he scared and intimidated when the deed was done? Was she a person in authority where he was coerced in doing it?

I see it as a very, very bad unfortunate mistake that he said no to but eventually gave in because of being drunk and his inhibitions were down. A very simplistic example: your child harangues you for something, you are tired after saying no repeatedly and you eventually give in. Simplistic, yes! Do the seriousness of the actions equate, NO! But the examples can equate.

I just don’t see that this rises to rape. He does have some awareness of what was happening.

Food for thought: Whether you give in because you were tired versus because you were drugged/massively drunk is the key here. Because in the first case, you can argue you are giving in. In the second case, you did not give in, but were forced to give in.

In general, humans who do not do drugs regularly or just see their effects on others, always think that the other person is weak. Or that the other person is just not trying hard enough. Subconsciously a person who does not indulge in such "vices" would always think that their capacity to handle something like this is bigger or better than the ones indulging in it. But it takes one experience, just one, to truly open your eyes to how badly it can paralyze you. Where "decisions" are not taken by a part of the brain which knows right or wrong but by basic biological impulses. Now what you think about those decisions after you're sober or after the fact, is generally always associated with guilt of why you couldn't stop without realizing that you never could. No one under influence could. So to answer Khushi's question: Why didn't Arnav stop? It is because he couldn't. Arnav also thinks he should have. But he could not have. People, in general, always overestimate their capability to make decisions under influence (drugs more so than alcohol).

P.S. I do not want to argue about: oh he made the choice to stay at a rave and put himself up for being raped. To me that argument is equivalent to a woman who dressed in short skirt being raped and being told she wore a short skirt, it was her fault. So let's agree to disagree on this count.

Originally posted by: tashi26

Isnt that his biggest problem, he can not talk. Not when it matters at least.

He wanted to have this talk when she readily agreed for divorce but now he just can not.

There is no doubt he loves her, it’s not easy to let go of the person you love when you know you will just have to ask and the other person can bend backwards for you. But still he did for her sake.

True. Talking is not a skill he has mastered. Even when he told her everything, it was not up to the mark. He told her bits and pieces, not the whole of it. There were a lot of details missing. Important ones. He needs to tell her about every interaction with Lavanya, his thought process, what happened, what he felt or did not feel.

Most of all he needs to tell her what she means to him and how miserable he was when she was not there.

I have always maintained that if he were drugged it was a different story. You guys are not reading my posts. I know there is a lot to sift through to remember who says what but there is no indication he was drugged. He still had some cognitive functions.

Yes, he was taken advantage of by Lavenya. She saw her chance and took it unethically. Bakwas accused me of letting Lavenya off the hook. Shame on her.

I don’t think it is the equivalent of shaming a girl in a short skirt for inviting rape. But being careful regardless of what you wear in a risky situation is always the prudent thing to do. That’s why they tell someone, usually female, to never to leave your drink unattended especially so at a rave type party. He was not careful by virtue of staying and drinking to access at a rave party. He was impaired but still had cognitive functions at least the way I see it as Arpita wrote it. If and when she writes Lavenya’s take on the situation I could change my mind.

And I do think my simplistic argument of being tired holds up against him being impaired if he were not drugged into inaction.

We will have to agree to disagree. You are being respectful by giving a logical argument and not hitting what I consider below the belt. Unfortunately, some people are not. I have always tried to show respect even when the argument is heated. I am often on the other end from everyone else and that’s OK as long as respect for heated arguments are shown.

Even knowing I will be on a different side than the majority I have never hesitated to speak up because respect is usually shown. But if it is not I will become a silent reader from now on.

Guys. The FF is at a very emotionally tensed situation. I understand. I can sense that from responses.

I have to step back from both my characters before writing. I know what has Arnav done and so do you guys but I can’t let it color my words when I am writing Khushi’s pain. She is going to react to what Arnav is going to say and act like, not based on what he felt if he can’t articulate that.

Same goes for Arnav. He was running around taking care of things that he felt would affect him or Khushi the most. It’s rather a brutal realisation that all that time when you thought you were ‘doing the right thing’ in reality you pushed your love into a pit.

I am looking at the comments and I am glad there are still two parties but I will again urge all to be understanding.

I know the FF touches a lot of sensetive issues. In fact cheating alone is a very sensetive topic for me. But the story is not written from the perspective of social reforms. All these things like male molestation, mental health, double standards for women, pressure on men to be breadwinner is a part and parcel of this backdrop I have chosen but at the end of it this is a couples story. That’s all. These social issues, as serious as they are to me, aren’t the focus of the story. The focus is our couple who is in the middle of a hurricane now.

I will agree to Isha a 100% here. The damage that needed to be done is already done. That night alone is not responsible for what happened between Arshi. There’s a whole box of mistakes that lies between them.

I know we want to tie all lose ends. Make everything fair at the end but the truth is it’s never going to be fair to all. No matter what the end is. If Khushi forgives Arnav then some can argue how is it fair for her to live with a husband who cheated. If she doesn’t you may argue how is it fair to Arnav who until last year was a good husband.

So argue with each other as much as you want because that’s how we grow and learn. I cannot tell you how much I have learned from your discussion. It’s always nice to hear from both sides.

Because in real life had any of us been there in Khushi’s place , reactions would be as different as all of us. Some of us would immediately feel that the husband was taken advantage of while some will really question why he stayed at a party like this. This is the reality no matter what we do. People are different and situation becomes what we make of it.

So I urge you guys to try and understand things from our characters perspectives 😘😘😘 I think we have enough chapters now to draw their behaviour and characters. Many of us would have behaved differently. Heck I probably would have walked out on a husband who isn’t talking and is now sleeping away. Turns out Khushi isn’t that person.

We still have halfway to go. I assure you I’m just going to present a story that is true to what was always there in my head. I have told you not all of you will always like what is happening but I hope you have some faith in me after this long that I won’t shove my personal opinion down your throat. I’m just going to tell a story. You guys are always at liberty to see things in the FF in the way you choose 😘😘😘 . But let’s just enjoy tue fiction as it’s meant to be enjoyed 😘

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

I have always maintained that if he were drugged it was a different story. You guys are not reading my posts. I know there is a lot to sift through to remember who says what but there is no indication he was drugged. He still had some cognitive functions.

Yes, he was taken advantage of by Lavenya. She saw her chance and took it unethically. Bakwas accused me of letting Lavenya off the hook. Shame on her.

Hey BollyBabe,

I think that he was drugged. Mainly because the author showed us that Lavanya carried psychedelics. Otherwise there would be no need for that. Another clue is that he was in his senses until he had the drinks and got up at the couch to leave, but at the balcony, he absolutely knew he was in trouble and he knew that he only felt that way when he mixed drinks. He even muses in the drugged state that he had sworn he would never do that. So to me it seems like too many cosmic failures for him to have actually only mixed drinks. He repeatedly called for the driver, as well.

But even if he was not drugged and only drunk, he was not in his senses. So when you say he had some cognitive functions: I believe all he had was impulses. When we read Arnav's point of view, it was also what he remembers out of that day and he may remember his actions but not what led him to it and neither the state of his cognition. It is in Arnav's nature to be extremely hard on himself. So that's that. I don't see why drunk beyond his control and drugged are different in this particular situation....

But at the end of this all, this discussion does not really matter because Arnav already believes your theory. And now Khushi knows what he believes. All this discussion of cheating or not is kinda pointless in the light of that.

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

Hey BollyBabe,

I think that he was drugged. Mainly because the author showed us that Lavanya carried psychedelics. Otherwise there would be no need for that. Another clue is that he was in his senses until he had the drinks and got up at the couch to leave, but at the balcony, he absolutely knew he was in trouble and he knew that he only felt that way when he mixed drinks. He even muses in the drugged state that he had sworn he would never do that. So to me it seems like too many cosmic failures for him to have actually only mixed drinks. He repeatedly called for the driver, as well.

But even if he was not drugged and only drunk, he was not in his senses. So when you say he had some cognitive functions: I believe all he had was impulses. When we read Arnav's point of view, it was also what he remembers out of that day and he may remember his actions but not what led him to it and neither the state of his cognition. It is in Arnav's nature to be extremely hard on himself. So that's that. I don't see why drunk beyond his control and drugged are different in this particular situation....

But at the end of this all, this discussion does not really matter because Arnav already believes your theory. And now Khushi knows what he believes. All this discussion of cheating or not is kinda pointless in the light of that.

look at how he phrases the whole thing. “I slept with Lavanya” “I should have said no” “I should have remembered I have a wife”

whatever Lavanya set out to achieve has been achieved.

Additionally for Khushi, it had rattled her ten years of devotion and reduced it to a question mark in her eyes. Things can’t get darker for the two. I don’t see any point arguing about it. Plus there are 100 other things that needs to be sorted.

I agree with Appy Di’s statement. Even if he wasn’t drugged, he was not in his senses and is assuming he could have stopped. She didn’t say anything about him staying back so I’m assuming she is not making excuses for that. It can be called a mistake. Now we can all argue that he should not have stayed back then, but it’s already done. We can choose to perceive Arnav differently 🙃

additionally, I can get on board with the thought process that he should not have stayed back and it’s a mistake but I can’t agree that he deserved what he got for staying behind at a party with many of his colleagues especially ARF people.

Edit - bolly you have all the right to say things you believe. I genuinely believe this is majorly a good space. :)