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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Arilip

Absolutely agree to you that it’s really good that they didn’t get to talk!!! Otherwise Arnav would have never understood her love and the real reason for her unhappiness, and would have broken her more by revealing la situation!!!

they needed this separation!!!!

😮😮😮😮 I did not even think on these lines. Yes obviously. Arnav would have gone ahead, confessed his adultery and given the way he was pulling away from Khushi, she would have walked out just the way she did.

Most importantly, Arnav would never have realized how much she still loves and cares for him. How utterly devastating it must have been to be wrong on that front when he re realized Khushi never pulled away. He was the only one 😭

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

"Save it ASR!” Manali was the one who spoke this time. “You want to sit here and be all practical about it then riddle me this. It would have been a different thing had you been single too. The child would still be respected as being born to two people who may choose not to get married after being in a respectful relationship. But the thing is you are already married. This makes the child the worst kind of b*stard that could exist in this country. Socially, legally every which way, this child will forever be at a disadvantage and you know it. How convenient for you to throw your money around!”

Arnav gulped, seeing Lavanya in absolute disarray. He could not believe just how many lives he was capable of ruining within the span of two months. One more guilt got added to his already sky-high pile and he closed his eyes, steadying himself to say the next words. Her concern was legit. His marital status did play a role here.

“That might not be a problem in the future” Arnav said even though thorns pricked at his throat. “I may be getting divorced. So no, the child will not be the worst kind of"


This was the other warped logic of Manali made no sense when I read it.


But Arnav bought it after seeing La in absolute disarray. Yes he feels guilt and remembers what Ratna told him to do the right thing.

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What if there were no issues with his marriage? So he would divorce Khushi because of his ONS right..because it led to pregnancy.


I hope once he speaks to Khushi (that is only time he will understand the damage he has done to her) that he spends time on how his guilt has made him shut down his astute brain ..how he sacrificed his wife he loves and wants to protect each time he did that.

Hi Shraddha. I don’t think I agree on these lines. Except for the last paragraph. I hope that happens very soon.

First and foremost , could have should have will lead to nowhere in this story. Had there been no problem in his marriage, he would not have been drinking at a rave in the first place. He had never done that before given how shocked Akash was and said ‘that was so unlike you’. By this definition we can argue over everything.

Besides, you’re still quoting a time where he is absolutely guilt ridden over cheating on Khushi. He never thinks Lavanya is the primary guilt of his life. He does say that it added on to his already mile high list of mistakes and guilt. Had there been no problem in the marriage, he still would have told Khushi about the ONS and maybe then would have decided what to do. He did feel bad for Lavanya here. I mean it really is a different thing if you have a child out of wedlock with a single man or with a married man.

With a single man you would still be subjected to scrutiny but with married men, the title of home-wrecker comes along. Bollywood I think has examples and in all of those cases, woman’s reputation was saved because they did get married or accepted the relationship. And this is a woman who had lived a fake goody two shoes image for over a decade. She had no personal life remember? Everything acc to PR. He told her about the divorce because he could. it was happening anyway.


Even if things were alright in his marriage, I think with the amount of guilt and sense of righteousness he carries around, he still would have asked Khushi to end it with him. Not for la or for the child he feels no connection to. Bit for Khushi. Even in Nepal. His thought process was ‘Khushi doesn’t deserve to be married to someone like him’

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Posted: 2 years ago

I have a somewhat controversial thought and let me get this clear that even though controversial, it in no way is blaming Khushi for how she got hurt in this debacle!

Here goes:


The fact that Khushi got so massively hurt despite loving Arnav beyond her means makes me wonder if loving someone to that extent is a good cause? Is it right for her to give up her dream of having a baby without question? I mean she did not ask Arnav even once after he initially denied and keeping the fact that that actually increased Arnav’s guilt, is it healthy to unquestionably sacrifice your hearts dearest wish for a partner that does not even tell you why? Now if he had told her and if she found his reasons justified, I can understand her not wanting children after, but how does one justify loving someone to that extent that whatever they say is word of law?


I guess then it makes sense to think that whatever they are going through, whatever point they have reached is just the tipping point, where the camel broke its back per se? That their relationship was so imbalanced (Khushi is the giver and Arnav is the taker) that they eventually reached a point where it all imploded spectacularly!


Having said that, I think coming to this point now will probably make Khushi realize the same thing: devotion should be reserved to Gods, not to a human being. Relationships don’t work on devotion. There has to be an aspect of give and take!


And I realize a lot of this has to do with her upbringing but I think after everything that went down, this Khushi, now will not compromise anymore and perhaps in some way that thought alone would provide her with closure to “why this happened to her”!

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

I have a somewhat controversial thought and let me get this clear that even though controversial, it in no way is blaming Khushi for how she got hurt in this debacle!

Here goes:


The fact that Khushi got so massively hurt despite loving Arnav beyond her means makes me wonder if loving someone to that extent is a good cause? Is it right for her to give up her dream of having a baby without question? I mean she did not ask Arnav even once after he initially denied and keeping the fact that that actually increased Arnav’s guilt, is it healthy to unquestionably sacrifice your hearts dearest wish for a partner that does not even tell you why? Now if he had told her and if she found his reasons justified, I can understand her not wanting children after, but how does one justify loving someone to that extent that whatever they say is word of law?


I guess then it makes sense to think that whatever they are going through, whatever point they have reached is just the tipping point, where the camel broke its back per se? That their relationship was so imbalanced (Khushi is the giver and Arnav is the taker) that they eventually reached a point where it all imploded spectacularly!


Having said that, I think coming to this point now will probably make Khushi realize the same thing: devotion should be reserved to Gods, not to a human being. Relationships don’t work on devotion. There has to be an aspect of give and take!


And I realize a lot of this has to do with her upbringing but I think after everything that went down, this Khushi, now will not compromise anymore and perhaps in some way that thought alone would provide her with closure to “why this happened to her”!

BINGO


I don’t want Khushi to compromise. I want her to realise that her self worth is above this all.


I don’t think she gave up in one attempt because it does say there were a series of arguments. Khushi gave up after the December 2014 fight. Which is where Arnav left for a whole week without a call.


I’m glad Appy di mentioned in response to my original comment to this chapter that of course there must be a reason. I ask the same question. I can tell initially she was someone who was starstruck. But it has been 10 years. Leave the child aside, she doesn’t even demand his time. She is happy when he sneaks time out of his busy schedule. In her memory lane chapter she still thinks he is a wonderful man who laid the world at her feet. Maybe, Khushi realized he had only fulfilled everyone’s wishes all his life and wanted to be understanding for him. But I liked that this point will be addressed. She really is devoted to him.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Yes you're right in that Khushi did not give up in one attempt, but she accepted his choice of no baby without a proper cause/reason. The very fact that she wrote that letter means that. I guess, all I am trying to ask is that you love someone to this extent and they don't even have the courtesy to tell you why they are denying you, and yet you choose them beyond everything else? Is this really healthy?


Now, I am not saying there is not a reason for Arnav to share with Khushi. I think it has got something to do with "what he can never tell Khushi". However, going by what Khushi knows, a normal human being should not be comfortable to make a compromise of this proportion without proper reason...But I guess there is a reason that Khushi is ready for this compromise, and it has not been revealed yet.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

Hi Shraddha. I don’t think I agree on these lines. Except for the last paragraph. I hope that happens very soon.

First and foremost , could have should have will lead to nowhere in this story. Had there been no problem in his marriage, he would not have been drinking at a rave in the first place.

My situation was hypothetical..because mistakes happen. Just like Arnav reaction next day..was I have a wife.

He had never done that before given how shocked Akash was and said ‘that was so unlike you’. By this definition we can argue over everything.

Besides, you’re still quoting a time where he is absolutely guilt ridden over cheating on Khushi. He never thinks Lavanya is the primary guilt of his life. He does say that it added on to his already mile high list of mistakes and guilt.

Like I said they piled on his guilt. The man apologized to La when she told him she came on to him.

Had there been no problem in the marriage, he still would have told Khushi about the ONS and maybe then would have decided what to do. He did feel bad for Lavanya here. I mean it really is a different thing if you have a child out of wedlock with a single man or with a married man.

With a single man you would still be subjected to scrutiny but with married men, the title of home-wrecker comes along.


Bollywood I think has examples and in all of those cases, woman’s reputation was saved because they did get married or accepted the relationship.

Not sure..reputation is saved.they are always home wreckers. We tend not think of the ex wives. Common man does not lead that life..and care less. Watch their movies and led them do what they want to.

No one looks up to Boney Kapoor and what he did. Well I dont

And this is a woman who had lived a fake goody two shoes image for over a decade. She had no personal life remember? Everything acc to PR. He told her about the divorce because he could. it was happening anyway.

He was going to talk to Khushi..this more or less sealed it.


Even if things were alright in his marriage, I think with the amount of guilt and sense of righteousness he carries around, he still would have asked Khushi to end it with him.

There you go. I think we prioritize in life and we don't end relationship because of a mistake. We find a solution..because end of day we all are selfish. We want our happiness

Not for la or for the child he feels no connection to. Bit for Khushi.

Like Akash said it is for Khushi to decide..or the couple of a decade to talk.

Even in Nepal. His thought process was ‘Khushi doesn’t deserve to be married to someone like him’

Guilt makes one not think clearly.

The whole reason I quoted and the sequence of his reaction is important. He got played and this is because he led his guilt rule his decisioning

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

The whole reason I quoted and the sequence of his reaction is important. He got played and this is because he led his guilt rule his decisioning

I agree on those points. He had taken bad decisions. Absolutely no argument there. with all the guilt that goes on in his head and the amount of stress he went through, he pretty much spirals. He has also been drinking and smoking excessively when in past he was responsible enough to quit cigarettes and even told Khushi that he doesn’t drink that often.
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

I have a somewhat controversial thought and let me get this clear that even though controversial, it in no way is blaming Khushi for how she got hurt in this debacle!

Here goes:


The fact that Khushi got so massively hurt despite loving Arnav beyond her means makes me wonder if loving someone to that extent is a good cause? Is it right for her to give up her dream of having a baby without question? I mean she did not ask Arnav even once after he initially denied and keeping the fact that that actually increased Arnav’s guilt, is it healthy to unquestionably sacrifice your hearts dearest wish for a partner that does not even tell you why? Now if he had told her and if she found his reasons justified, I can understand her not wanting children after, but how does one justify loving someone to that extent that whatever they say is word of law?


I guess then it makes sense to think that whatever they are going through, whatever point they have reached is just the tipping point, where the camel broke its back per se? That their relationship was so imbalanced (Khushi is the giver and Arnav is the taker) that they eventually reached a point where it all imploded spectacularly!


Having said that, I think coming to this point now will probably make Khushi realize the same thing: devotion should be reserved to Gods, not to a human being. Relationships don’t work on devotion. There has to be an aspect of give and take!


And I realize a lot of this has to do with her upbringing but I think after everything that went down, this Khushi, now will not compromise anymore and perhaps in some way that thought alone would provide her with closure to “why this happened to her”!

Not controversial..most readers have echoed it in some way.


I heard something other day. Longer you stay in someone's shadow..longer it takes to cast your own.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Wow, that is a beautiful thought. Thank you for sharing. :)


I only said controversial because I did not want to sound like I was blaming Khushi in any way or form, because I was not. But her unquestionable devotion is romanticized and praised a lot. And I wonder if it should be, that's all.

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Posted: 2 years ago

I was reading today’s chapter again and Arnav mentioned two photos of him and Lavanya at the balcony . But Khushi received photos of at balcony and at restaurant and at his home . How come . I think Manali and Lavanya were hell bent on ruining Arnav’s marriage or is there any third person involved.

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