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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

Arpita, by that logic if Lavenya is also drunk her judgement is also impaired and yes, she is taking advantage of him but also acting on her baser instincts as he is. We just know how obsessed she is with him so that colors our judgement as to her motives. If he has been given some sort of drug by her or Manali on purpose then that alters the whole scenario. A person driving under the influence is still guilty.

But, we don’t know if his drinks have been spiked yet and people are jumping on the bandwagon in my estimation too quickly.

that’s true. This chapter is written from what Arnav has experienced. this is all that he knows.


Even then, it’s Lavanya who has saved him. Has enough strength to pull him back to safety. Talked to him coherently while half of the time he was even unable to understand what she was saying. She’s clearly the one more in her senses than him. Enough to realize he was in danger and act quickly. She was steadying him while he was unable to even look that he was in a life threatening situation.


This is what makes her case different than Arnav. That she is the initiator and aggressor here. Again reverse the gender and the picture becomes clearer in an instant.


Even in that condition , Arnav is being the one telling her to back off. She, being the one who was handling him in that state, needed to be a bit more decent. I said I will not use the word as strong as r*pe but this is not doubtful in my head that he had been taken advantage of in a compromised situation.


Edit - I’m not saying he’s not wrong. He did give in ultimately. That is cheating. However, the situation needs to be clear as to what had been his physical state at the time.

Edited by VeiledWords - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

Arpita, by that logic if Lavenya is also drunk her judgement is also impaired and yes, she is taking advantage of him but also acting on her baser instincts as he is. We just know how obsessed she is with him so that colors our judgement as to her motives. A person driving under the influence of alcohol is still guilty. Now if she or Manali drugged his drinks that is a whole different scenario.

But, we don’t know if his drinks have been spiked yet and people are jumping on the bandwagon in my estimation too quickly.

You are right bollybabe, the story is written in a fashion that it makes you jump to different conclusions, may be because most of us really did not want Arnav to cheat Khushi even under the influence of alcohol.

If he did it when drunk it is still infidelity, yes the degree of his crime(as in cheating Khushi) has reduced a lot. Plus he tried to refuse, still he cheated.

Now with drugs that case is totally different. If given drugs I will never call it cheating.

In one update I blame Arnav for throwing that party, next we know Khushi wanted it, his parents were coming, so he could not refuse.

Then in the last part I was blaming Khushi for still going to bhagwanpur when her marriage was crumbling, now we know it was Arnav who pushed her to do it.

Arpita you are marvellous. Will have to hold my judgment till the whole things come out.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Get your point for sure but read my post on the previous page on how alcohol effects me and people I am close to. All differently.

From my view point I am trying to give people the benefit of the doubt on certain actions until it has been proven otherwise. I was willing to give Shyam the benefit of the doubt that he had changed until his actions proved otherwise. Manali the benefit of the doubt that she was Lavenya’s fixer and I placed most of the blame on Lavenya. She pursued and slept with a married man. I was willing to concede Arnav’s would not deliberately sleep with Lavenya to hurt Khushi and conceded he thought he was acting in Khushi’s best interest to divorce her. Khushi bore fault by not articulating her wants and needs clearly to Arnav etc., etc. etc.

So, I do worry that I am applying a double standard to this situation but damn, alcohol effects people differently. If they both were drunk they both were not in their clear faculties.

Another thing just popped into my head. Why was Arnav so mad at Manali for interfering in Lavenya having a real relationship?

Edited by BollyBabe75 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: canapoem


He is still thinking he slept with her. But once he sees the photos sent to Khushi, he will realize he was played by La from the beginning.

What an idiot he is.

He is in the industry where lies, manipulation, drugs etcetera is a day to day business. And he did not suspect Lavanya till now

Now I’m wondering what were the photos that he got Aman to take care of and La and Manali were so worried will come out. Didn’t he see them then?? I’m a little confused.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: tashi26

bakwas this was my comment, next time will tag you. Like Arnav I am a little lazy person. 🙈

Batshit lunatic 🤣. I loved it. Can I use it too😅

I don't know much about this drug..a psychedelic one?

They say never leave your drink unattended..but that caution is only in an unknown place..and for women. Guess holds for men when around BL.

It will really hurt Arnav if what you say is true and he misjudged la royally😊


Ps. My understanding is that one gets really drunk..you lose your inhibitions. He is aware that he is not his self..blame mixing drinks..which is bad..and mantra is I want to go home. His drinks were spiked !

Edited by bakwas_serial - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Arpita, don't delay your Monday update please.

Regular cliff hangers are good excercise for our heart but it's too stressful for mind and we go crazy in our analysis...

Boxer is not going to help either.. So Monday update a must girl!

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Posted: 2 years ago

By all means girl, a BL has to be referred as BL. 😜

Now Arpita, still has not made the full revelation yet whether his drink was spiked or not. Only Lavanya will tell that.

But this businessman was not that sharp is all I can say. 😔

Edited by tashi26 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

I can't say the same thing enough, Arnav is a complete dimwit for an astute, talented, and super rich businessman! He is aclassic example of what emotions can do to you! I am not going there again and again; we all have discussed this at length. But few other points here..

The reason Arnav didn’t suspect foul play because he knows what 6 strong mix and match drinks can do! Memory of his own actions have forced him to accept he slept with La. This is a clean consensual act under the influence from what I read and NO R*PE whether we like it or not – He initially rejected La’s advances, but his body took over the response and he let it. He dipped his head and kissed her back, His lips left hers as he buried his head in her neck, unable to control the primal need that seemed to be reigning over everything else at the moment. He clearly remembers them tumbling inside the room, shedding their clothes on the bed as the feverish skins came into contact; tongues duelling, hands digging into flesh. Though not sure if anything further happened but whatever happened, there is no denying La took the lead, came on him again and again but Arnav also gave in, he equally participated in kissing her back, involved in further act, so now does it even matter if they did the final act or not? Yes, only matters for the pregnancy, but otherwise he has committed adultery, period. Alcohol, drugs, and an aggressive woman seducing him and not leaving him at all, he was not in no control and bound to succumb to the lethal combo. At least this is my take for now.

While carrying the burden of responsibilities since teenage, Arnav has developed massive phobia and mental issues towards responsibilities. The parents especially his father expecting him to do things for their family name or to have a certain image in society while making him sacrifice during his golden years of life is a lot and does put tremendous burden. (I still remember the expectations my husband's extended families had after we came to USA and both having IT jobs. Everyone reminded him how they helped him to be the successful at young age and expected monitory help and its common practice I feel everywhere.) Arnav’s struggle days are gone but expectations to always rise to be righteous and give in to family’s demands have left massive mental trauma. Then keep his love happy since she is integral part of his life is his personal goal, but baby responsibility creates a major conflict. While chasing success and money, he lost his footing to reality. He is being aloof and running away from problems not even wanting to talk is a bummer, since Khushi understands him so well, always there for him and could have explained or taken him for counselling. But then with mental sickness, people behave very differently and do not realize what they are doing or its consequences; Arnav here is in constant dilemma regarding Khushi’s happiness and baby. I have called him sadist for wanting to use La info to divorce Khushi making me feel he has gone to the darker side in life, narcissist and self-centered all the time in the past, but it looks like he has serious mental issues and tends to be over critical on himself, over perfectionist and negative enough to run away from situations. In trying to do the best for Khushi, he has wronged her the most!

Khushi, I feel is most unlucky person on this planet. She has no clue where Arnav is, she doesn’t know La’s obsession for her husband, what he is doing in Panchgani, if her hubby just landed at the wrong place at the wrong time but she is playing the biggest price in the crossfire. She is the biggest victim with minimal or almost no faults of hers… Why I say almost no faults, one thing I would like to point out here is Khushi is equally aware of showbiz and its lifestyle should have made some strict rules. Why on this earth she would let Arnav be alone and not go with him to such parties, she should have kept their differences and fights aside, but knowing the tramp category women, low life actresses are out there waiting for an opportunity to trap a right guy and Arnav here is young, one of the most handsome and filthy rich guys, she should have accompanied him frequently and involve Aman too when she cannot!I know the onus is on Arnav to stay loyal, ethical but wives have their roles too. World is not perfect out there but jealousy, evil is always peeking to bring you down!

But my focus and curiosity lie with La and Ma and these two vile ladies on the other hand are at the top of their game, were waiting for anopportunity and planned so well. They did homework about his nature, background,and weaknesses extremely well to use it when needed. Still, I doubt La got pregnant by him, see they were together on 9th Oct 2015, La is at Shantivan on 8th Nov 2015 claiming she is pregnant, seriously?? Even doctors will ask you to wait for couple of weeks before confirming. More than pregnancy, La and Ma were trying to push him through tremendous guilt of cheating with Khushi, being not worthy of her anymore and hence divorce is the only way forward. Ma was blackmailing Arnav in Feb 2016, if La was preggo then, she would be 4+ months pregnant and soon / already showing… In this case Ma doesn’t need to blackmail Arnav about his divorce leak but La being pregnant itself would be sufficient to demand marriage with La. Arnav was hardly home in Nov-Dec time frame; maybe helping La to get rid of the baby or La aborted owing to her career, Ma’s insistence, and Arnav’s dislike towards babies, we will know soon. Arnav breaking ties on 2nd Jan 2016 indicates La’spregnancy chapter was taken care by then or La just felt pregnant but was not. But I have one more theory here, just because La was obsessed with Arnav doesn’t mean she was celibate for 6 long years, knowing the bit*h’s history with men and her needs, she must have got pregnant with someone else and conveniently used it to trap Arnav. If only Arnav can get out of his wallowing in guilt mode and checks pics Khushi has and realizes how royally he has been duped by these two women, even now he can use all his resources to figure what exactly happened and get some clean chit for himself. He needs to punish La and Ma hardest.. Also the way Arnav talked to La over phone and later with Ma when she blackmailed tells two different tales! How come he didn't find further insights after knowing La's background of sleeping with married men and being crooked???

But if La was really pregnant, Khushi should not forgive him ever. Just the thought of him getting another woman pregnant in his reckless behavior, the rightful right he denied to his beloved wife for years seems an impossible mountain to conquer at this time! Even if Khushi realizes his mental trauma, she will still be there for him through La ruckus, his counselling / recovery and be his relentless support, but she needs to think about her emotional damage too and we will see how this enfolds.

Arpita again extraordinary chapter with extraordinary writing skills but I have one major complain this time though, I am truly disappointed with you on this chapter, what has happened to your attention to details here girl?

The Oscar worthy performance was by the boxer Arnav wore, the MVP of this chapter and you haven't even specified brand, size, material, color, elastic or Govinda style naada 😛 😛, anything else I missed?? This chapter should be named “Oscar worthy performance by the Boxer!”

Tashi - You rock, I was ROFL this morning on some of your comments and my hubby sure doubts I have gone nuts, or he is convinced Resurgence is all about s*x 😛 😛, He knows my passion for reading but he is confused when did I change my genre???? Ha ha.

Puja - Stay away from our comments for your own sanity,else we don't know what you will be dreaming next!

Ashvini - Some fab guesses, keep it up!

As far as his issues are concerned I agree that he is solely responsible. You have to share and it seems she knows nothing about why he does not want to have kids.

She was looking at him when he took her to see Shantivan and said loved it.!!!

Does he even understand what it means to be in a relationship !

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But the rave party and his actions..

Yes he slept with her or thinks he did.


But to say that in a inebriated state (where he repeatedly says wants to go home) sex with La was just conseual and his reactions before he started kissing her back...

or on the morning is false. That this is just adultery. I dont agree.

Yes he may not have said no but the guy was not in his senses. One cannot discount his constant mantra of wanting to go home (I can't believe I am actually defending him😊)

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Posted: 2 years ago

Female sexual abuse is always talked about everywhere. #MeToo movement made so many women come out about the kind of sexual abuses they have faced.

Sad part is Male sexual abuse is not given the same prominence. Men get sexually abused/taken advantage too. Young boys are equally abused as much as young girls are.

Unfortunately law tilts towards the women and most men either don't come out to tell what they have faced or don't get justice when they come out with their story.

Later on a movement called #HeToo was also launched. Some of the stories I read felt so heart wrenching. Sexual abuse of women and men are very different when you read those stories. But it is abuse at the end of the day. Both have emotions and both are deeply affected.


Here, under the influence of alcohol and even drugs, Arnav's "consent" is not consent in the real sense. He was taken advantage of.

Maybe he did not realize then. But I hope he realizes it later on and fights to get justice.


In "Fashion" movie, Priyanka's character under the influence of drugs sleeps with some guy. She loathes about her behavior later on. But the truth was that she was taken advantage of due to her condition.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

As far as his issues are concerned I agree that he is solely responsible. You have to share and it seems she knows nothing about why he does not want to have kids.

She was looking at him when he took her to see Shantivan and said loved it.!!!

Does he even understand what it means to be in a relationship !

***

But the rave party and his actions..

Yes he slept with her or thinks he did.


But to say that in a inebriated state (where he repeatedly says wants to go home) sex with La was just conseual and his reactions before he started kissing her back...

or on the morning is false. That this is just adultery. I dont agree.

Yes he may not have said no but the guy was not in his senses. One cannot discount his constant mantra of wanting to go home (I can't believe I am actually defending him😊)

Yes, I was asking many questions regarding this.. I have suddenly sympathy for this Arnav on two accounts 1. His mental state, believe it or not many people self destruct by their thoughts pulling them down and making them think either they are not good enough or they are not meeting expectations or childhood experiences etc. Arnav has had everything going for him and still going in self detonate mode mentally.

2. Arpita and Tashi and Bollybabe were discussing, Bollybabe and my thoughts came from the fact that they both were drunk / drugs and though he had much lesser control & he asked to call his driver again and again while she had her own agenda and he succumbed... Now I am thinking he was involved against his will..

3. My third important point no one has addressed so far, is it possble that some else were doing things and he was made to watch, feel he was doing under the influence of drugs and then someone just made him sleep there in his now famous boxer while the bitch is sleeping next to him naked after her act with other man?? I had heard this somewhere but I don't know...

Please clarify this...

I am still surprised Arnav hasn't figured out what was happening around him, Aman & Akash as sharp and close as they are should have asked him a zillion questions and they together would have easily smelled foul play... Usually these rich people always go around with their crew for a reason, so Arnav has been reckless and lost or he trusted La since she pretended to be professional all these years waiting for her opportunity, amazing..

In general, it is truly unfortunate for men that they can't prove things against them, mental trauma is another aspect they don't get much support either..

Edited by SwatStar_Arshi - 2 years ago

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