Mera basa-basaya ghar bikhar raha hai - Akshara 🤡 - Page 9

Originally posted by: sweet_tania

I have not mentioned anything about good/bad about abhinav in my post. Abhinav doesn’t belong to my post. As a TM I request you both please don’t drag abhinav for his goodness or his badness or anything here. Abhinav discussion is irrelevant to my post.

Originally posted by: verve

Problem is he's not god lead.

In mere mortal world, Nav deserves someone so much better than Akshara... but godland mein ulti ganga beh rahi hai 🤪 lol

I should probably make a separate post for this. But if Nav deserved better, then he shouldn't have said yes to marrying Ak for Abhir. I don't find any redeeming qualities in Nav except for how he has treated Ak. We only have that one perspective. But beyond that, we have no idea who Nav is. Financially and career-wise, we know he is not successful, but that's alright, he was an orphan, didn't have proper resources, etc. No issue. But if he is soo charitable and stuff, then why is Ak the only focus of his "Charity"? His one dialogue that triggered me a lot was telling Abhi that, you know, in this world, a child needs a father's name, so I gave Abhir my name. What the heck?

For Nav his only redeeming qualities are - he was at the right place and right time, and he kept helping someone who he knew needed help and did so without any ulterior motives. So all of his AA status for me ended when he agreed to be Abhir's father. After that point, it's his responsibility, not charity or goodness, and he did that for his own selfish reasons. He wanted a family and had been unsuccessful in finding one so far. Ak and Abhir were just a shortcut for that. Plus, for years now, Ak has been glorifying him and has been indebted to him.

Nav could have had a family amongst the very orphans he grew up with. We have already seen Naira being an orphan and her bonds with her friends from there. Even if that didn't work out, if Nav is actually a charitable person, why is he not working in a charitable profession ?? Show him as a social worker, show him as a teacher, etc. Why is he a driver/tourist guide? Abhi does a lot of charity as well but never really talks about it. Even in the last episode where he was doing a medical camp, he clearly said it was for Abhir to get dua, so I don't consider that charity or him being a good person just cause of that.

Nav made his own choices and got a shortcut family. Now he wants it to become a real family, and Ak is indebted to him to make that happen.

The last line is where difference of opinion arise between akshnav and abhira fans. The former claim it is not mere gratitude but some feelings too while the latter claim it’s nothing but gratitude and emotional manipulation.

Only time will tell what’s the truth.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

I should probably make a separate post for this. But if Nav deserved better, then he shouldn't have said yes to marrying Ak for Abhir. I don't find any redeeming qualities in Nav except for how he has treated Ak. We only have that one perspective. But beyond that, we have no idea who Nav is. Financially and career-wise, we know he is not successful, but that's alright, he was an orphan, didn't have proper resources, etc. No issue. But if he is soo charitable and stuff, then why is Ak the only focus of his "Charity"? His one dialogue that triggered me a lot was telling Abhi that, you know, in this world, a child needs a father's name, so I gave Abhir my name. What the heck?

For Nav his only redeeming qualities are - he was at the right place and right time, and he kept helping someone who he knew needed help and did so without any ulterior motives. So all of his AA status for me ended when he agreed to be Abhir's father. After that point, it's his responsibility, not charity or goodness, and he did that for his own selfish reasons. He wanted a family and had been unsuccessful in finding one so far. Ak and Abhir were just a shortcut for that. Plus, for years now, Ak has been glorifying him and has been indebted to him.

Nav could have had a family amongst the very orphans he grew up with. We have already seen Naira being an orphan and her bonds with her friends from there. Even if that didn't work out, if Nav is actually a charitable person, why is he not working in a charitable profession ?? Show him as a social worker, show him as a teacher, etc. Why is he a driver/tourist guide? Abhi does a lot of charity as well but never really talks about it. Even in the last episode where he was doing a medical camp, he clearly said it was for Abhir to get dua, so I don't consider that charity or him being a good person just cause of that.

Nav made his own choices and got a shortcut family. Now he wants it to become a real family, and Ak is indebted to him to make that happen.

Generally your post makes sense to me. But my apologies.. clearly on this one you're letting your bias overtake. I can't counter hypothetical stuff like why doesn't he has an orphan friend circle, why isn't he a social worker/teacher, etc.... I'll try responding to this in my capacity as per what's shown in the show.

Firstly, the one redeeming quality you see in him you mention it too nonchalantly. It seems as if it's an everyday event where people help complete strangers, tc of them, provide protection, bear their finances, do stuff to make them happy, carry them to the hospital & revive their child while they're passed out from blood loss. What he did was extraordinary in today's world.

Yes, Nav agreed for his selfish interest. He craved a family & wanted to stay with the child he developed a bond with. But to think that he wouldn't have a family of his own in subsequent 6 yrs is too great an assumption. They made a deal in the moment but as Ak said Nav went over n beyond her expectations.

Plus, the deal was a shortcut for both. For Nav to get a fam & for Ak to get her child a father... so that way both are indebted to eo. Why this indebtedness theory just comes in play for Ak & never for Nav? He's always shown thanking her for filling his empty photo frames.

He never said what he did for his family was charity or goodness. He always did what he did as his responsibility. BP after learning the whole truth thanked him for doing so much for his grand daughter n he stated "woh mera parivaar hai aur parivar par ehsaan nhi kiya jata." After returning from UD he clearly told Ak he just helped her, he never did it with the motive of wanting anything for it in return. If, as per you, Ak keeps adding every word n action of Nav to her gratitude diary then she needs counseling.

For me, speaking about a family member's qualities n contributions isn't glorification... my grandfather kept saying my grandma did so much for the house. Honestly she did what other women at that time did too. But acknowledging & appreciating her efforts didn't mean she was being glorified.. it just meant she mattered to the family n that we noticed her efforts and felt fortunate for having someone like her.

Now giving the child a father's name. Nav is an orphan so for him having parents definitely meant a lot. And Nav comes from a lower socioeconomic strata n lives in a small town.. for him having such thought process is normal.

This way toh it can be questioned that why in B family none of the traumatized people ever took counseling/therapy/anger management course but instead retorted to dv, using a child as support n popping pills? Doesn't this imply they believe n support the stigma associated with mental health issues despite being super rich doctors. Why they didn't ever think about convincing Ar to move on in her life & the only possible prospect they found for her was of her jeth? In this show all people have their own kinda regressive thinking.

Don't know about Naira haven't watched gen 2. I haven't seen Nav talk about his charities as well.

PS this turned out longer then I intended 😅

Originally posted by: verve

Generally your post makes sense to me. But my apologies.. clearly on this one you're letting your bias overtake. I can't counter hypothetical stuff like why doesn't he has an orphan friend circle, why isn't he a social worker/teacher, etc.... I'll try responding to this in my capacity as per what's shown in the show.

Firstly, the one redeeming quality you see in him you mention it too nonchalantly. It seems as if it's an everyday event where people help complete strangers, tc of them, provide protection, bear their finances, do stuff to make them happy, carry them to the hospital & revive their child while they're passed out from blood loss. What he did was extraordinary in today's world.

Yes, Nav agreed for his selfish interest. He craved a family & wanted to stay with the child he developed a bond with. But to think that he wouldn't have a family of his own in subsequent 6 yrs is too great an assumption. They made a deal in the moment but as Ak said Nav went over n beyond her expectations.

Plus, the deal was a shortcut for both. For Nav to get a fam & for Ak to get her child a father... so that way both are indebted to eo. Why this indebtedness theory just comes in play for Ak & never for Nav? He's always shown thanking her for filling his empty photo frames.

He never said what he did for his family was charity or goodness. He always did what he did as his responsibility. BP after learning the whole truth thanked him for doing so much for his grand daughter n he stated "woh mera parivaar hai aur parivar par ehsaan nhi kiya jata." After returning from UD he clearly told Ak he just helped her, he never did it with the motive of wanting anything for it in return. If, as per you, Ak keeps adding every word n action of Nav to her gratitude diary then she needs counseling.

For me, speaking about a family member's qualities n contributions isn't glorification... my grandfather kept saying my grandma did so much for the house. Honestly she did what other women at that time did too. But acknowledging & appreciating her efforts didn't mean she was being glorified.. it just meant she mattered to the family n that we noticed her efforts and felt fortunate for having someone like her.

Now giving the child a father's name. Nav is an orphan so for him having parents definitely meant a lot. And Nav comes from a lower socioeconomic strata n lives in a small town.. for him having such thought process is normal.

This way toh it can be questioned that why in B family none of the traumatized people ever took counseling/therapy/anger management course but instead retorted to dv, using a child as support n popping pills? Doesn't this imply they believe n support the stigma associated with mental health issues despite being super rich doctors. Why they didn't ever think about convincing Ar to move on in her life & the only possible prospect they found for her was of her jeth? In this show all people have their own kinda regressive thinking.

Don't know about Naira haven't watched gen 2. I haven't seen Nav talk about his charities as well.

PS this turned out longer then I intended 😅

I agree that I am biased, but my post was about the fact that Nav deserves more than Ak. I also agree with that, I think he deserves a family of his own. He deserves a love story and everything that every person deserves. But it was his own choices that led to his current status, just like Ak or Abhi's choices.

And I am saying that we don't really know Nav as a person beyond the lens of Ak. She believes him to be the best person cause he helped her, but there has been no discussion of his "goodness" beyond Ak. I agree that he has done a lot of amazing things for Ak. But to say he deserves more than Ak, I am not so sure.

Originally posted by: YoungHeart

Oh so this theme is common with you. You basically hate all FL and have soft spot for ML (have seen you around in other forums)... cuz how can you defend and justify Abhimanyu after all he’s done to Akshara. Akshara might be the worse person but Akshara >>>>> Toxic Abhimanyu anyday after what he did to his wife who had just miscarried.

Originally posted by: Silveraliax

I never mentioned financial status?

I don't think Nav is right because Akshara doesn't seem to have feelings for him. It comes across as a debt she needs to pay off which is quite frankly, gross.

Nav is a good guy but that doesn't mean he is right for her. She also has to have feelings for him and from what I can see, her heart is not accepting him but her mind is. A man and a woman can be good friends, you don't have to shove love angle into it.

My sister recently went out with a guy who was perfect look wise, carree wise and personality wise and I really wish she had said yes to him but she just had no feelings for him. It would be wrong of me to pressure her to be with him just because I think he is right for her. At the end of the day, you should listen to your heart.

Originally posted by: Lostin90s

Then why do you want such a liar(according to you) to reenter your 🦹‍♂️’s life? Let her be alone na to stew in her miserable life with her miserable husband and sick son.

Originally posted by: Lostin90s

When Ak herself said she would choose Abhinav as her husband for 100 times, if she had a choice, then tell me why do all the abhira shippers disregard her choice and wants her to be with Abhimanyu.

You don’t want to force your sister to be with a guy because she doesn’t have any feelings for him. Then similarly why does every abhira shipper disregard Akshara’s choice and decide how she feels for someone on her behalf?

What kind of hypocrisy is this?

Originally posted by: lagjagale

I agree that I am biased, but my post was about the fact that Nav deserves more than Ak. I also agree with that, I think he deserves a family of his own. He deserves a love story and everything that every person deserves. But it was his own choices that led to his current status, just like Ak or Abhi's choices.

And I am saying that we don't really know Nav as a person beyond the lens of Ak. She believes him to be the best person cause he helped her, but there has been no discussion of his "goodness" beyond Ak. I agree that he has done a lot of amazing things for Ak. But to say he deserves more than Ak, I am not so sure.

Idk the exact definition of goodness. But for me Nav's goodness can also be gauged by how empathetic he's of others feelings. There have been multiple instances where he thought about Ab's feelings, his rights before worrying about sharing Abhir. He always in his capacity tries to be fair to all parties involved. There have been scenes where he always tries to cheer people around him, tries to do the best possible for his family, keeps other's happiness over his.

I've no issues with Akshnav. I personally like yrkkh showing something diff from usual ITV tropes. And Ak has done a lot for Nav in return. My pt. of discontent is the constant cries of gratitude.

People have reduced this whole relationship to 2 words - gratitude & (emotional) manipulation. And tho I see from where their perspective arise, it takes away from the progress in relationship that's actually shown. A lot of sequences have been given to point out the change in their dynamics, but everything is just called indebtness & manipulation and swept under the rug.

I'm not diving into an explanation why me n many others don't see Akshnav relationship in this light.. bcos frankly there's no surity where this story is heading.. so why to waste our time analyzing it.

If Abhira is the endgame makers will use your reasoning, if Akshnav are the endgame makers will use my reasoning.

The pt. is, that at the end of the day, Nav has given his 100% in this relationship.. something Ak might not be able to give.. so in that aspect Nav deserved someone better.