VIAAN- PROGRESSING OR REGRESSING ????? - Page 4

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

in real life, katha's lectures would hurt people like viaan to the point they would break. it is very easy to say "just move on" when you have not faced such pain or even know what that kind of pain can look like for someone. she is just yakking so insensitively -- a typical FL in some ways. what I give side eye to is how viaan is taking it all in and not even fighting back. instead he glows and says "great advice!" 🤦🤣

Katha herself, an orphan did not just learn to survive, but she learned to thrive. Being a successful architect, falling in love, having a home to call her own, and then losing the one person with whom she felt like she belonged, almost an orphan again if it wasn’t for having Aarav. She managed to face her challenges and do what needed to be done to make life easier. Without holding a grudge against the in-laws for their lack of acceptance, she walked right back into their arms when they finally welcomed her. So, for someone like her, this is the best advice to give. Don’t run away from your challenges, face it and deal in the best way with it.

This is how it is across cultures. My experience was this, so my advice is this…. However, people differ in their ways of handling challenges and so for that, a professional’s help and guidance is absolutely necessary.

Originally posted by: Rsrockz

Sadly due to family respect etc the couple were never separated. The 3 daughters were treated like filth, having to visit the other lady's house for the girls weekly expenses etc. It terrified the girls very much the dad in his lifetime didn't bother to get the girls married. 2 of the girls decided not to get married at all😭

I am sorry your friends had to go through that. A support system always helps, otherwise one can easily give in to image, name etc and end up suffering even more.

Exactly, discussing about such a thing committed by a parent is a trauma in itself and nobody becomes great by giving bashan like Kathaa, instead people need a shoulder to cry upon and probably a compassionate listener. Wounds and scars never heal by scratching or poking them. Instead many good experiences make people feel unburdened from their past trauma.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

in real life, katha's lectures would hurt people like viaan to the point they would break. it is very easy to say "just move on" when you have not faced such pain or even know what that kind of pain can look like for someone. she is just yakking so insensitively -- a typical FL in some ways. what I give side eye to is how viaan is taking it all in and not even fighting back. instead he glows and says "great advice!" 🤦🤣

Yeah, their story's really sad, we were always clueless in their case because we weren't family. We couldn't praise our hardworking dad infront of them and it was disgusting to hear them abuse their own dad in the choicest of filthy language.

Originally posted by: kushikumari

I am sorry your friends had to go through that. A support system always helps, otherwise one can easily give in to image, name etc and end up suffering even more.

Originally posted by: Rsrockz

Exactly, discussing about such a thing committed by a parent is a trauma in itself and nobody becomes great by giving bashan like Kathaa, instead people need a shoulder to cry upon and probably a compassionate listener. Wounds and scars never heal by scratching or poking them. Instead many good experiences make people feel unburdened from their past trauma.

Hello dear

Thanks for tagging me in many posts 😍

Well i want only to interpret this part about katha

It was really very expected from her to talk to viaan in such way regardless we as a viewer found it good or bad

Because she herself tasted the peace of forgiveness for the people caused her a fatal troubles including viaan and Mr garewel!

I know the difference is that the root cause for her didn't reach the level of parents

But still affecting her to a deeper level if we want to logic interpretation one could forgive neither viaan nor Mr G who refuse to help his grandson ( who was about to die)

So it suits katha personality very much and yeah totally agree she isn't perfessional therapist so she could only help with her own experience to deal with psychological trauma so it's logical to be written in such way!

Other thing about katha being like teacher or mahan or lecturer

I also could say it suits her charcater from the very beginning

Katha has faced many challenges in her life she is the perfect one to feel the depth of pain along with the value of help ( because there were others who actually helped her in a way or another like F, D) so her being always in a mood to give advices or provide helps to others ( as they gave her the chance to do so either meera earlier opened the subject of yuvraj to her or the garewel family during reet delivery or viaan who wanted anything from her and welcoming her advice), so it's normal as per her personality to like to help others

In fact we have less types of people who want to provide help or support (when they themselves have a big burden to deal with in their life!) bur i won't come to reality.

Yessss she isn't perfect or super woman so it may provide advice which may be not applicable.

SIMPLY If she was superwoman she could find better way to save her child other than accepting to sell her body in ONS disgusting deal.

Also she always witnessed the stressed vian in regard with his father so it's ordinary to let him trying the different pathway with forgiving or in other word forgetting or letting the hatred out

I know forgiving is the hardest way to choose and not everyone has the courage or the capability to forgive others especially close ones but what if we consume our SHORT life in hatred and grudge and not feeling anything beautiful rather we feel only bitter taste.

I like to see NON-toxic treatment of things in fiction because my life filled with problems already so 20 minutes of good vibes would be beautiful (while i'm actual fan of intense drama but trying to give myself some break 😂😂😂❤️)

I still have manythings to say about the show and i want to vent them out hopefully soon 😅❤️

In bold I never find any fault or wrong with Katha agreeing for ONS. IMO because such a thing has happened between them, it needs to be discussed and sorted out before they proceed for a lifelong relationship.

My problem isn't with Katha helping out viiaan, but how CVs bring new plots with no closure or relevance to the ongoing tracks, also the pace of story progression has significantly slowed post confession.

Viaan discussing his love life with a little Aarav, him not realising the connection between Kathaa and Aarav is all silly.

IMO certain things in this world can't be ameliorated by talks instead individual has to face their own trauma, also trauma isn't some dirty stain which can be washed off with a magic formula in this case kathaa's advice. I felt CVs are going overboard in portraying kathaa as the all powerful woman, sadly even best sweet can cloy the mouth if consumed in excess.

I felt the respectable distance between kaviaa is missing and the dignified Viaan is missing, what is the need to show everything isn't going well with Viaan. He's a successful businessman, with a charming personality, he was an excellent negotiator with very good convincing skills.

They could have brought some twist in Teji life with Vanya's entry and could have used that plot to establish kathaa's relationship with Tejji, similarly the reveal of kathaa's son to Viaan and Aarav to know Viaan is kathaa's boss.

There can be lot of issues after their marriage as well like their professional idiosyncrasies and all can be highlighted challenges of being a stepfather dad to an adolescent etc can be explored.

There's no need for this unnecessary drag.

Originally posted by: Shimokatha

Hello dear

Thanks for tagging me in many posts 😍

Well i want only to interpret this part about katha

It was really very expected from her to talk to viaan in such way regardless we as a viewer found it good or bad

Because she herself tasted the peace of forgiveness for the people caused her a fatal troubles including viaan and Mr garewel!

I know the difference is that the root cause for her didn't reach the level of parents

But still affecting her to a deeper level if we want to logic interpretation one could forgive neither viaan nor Mr G who refuse to help his grandson ( who was about to die)

So it suits katha personality very much and yeah totally agree she isn't perfessional therapist so she could only help with her own experience to deal with psychological trauma so it's logical to be written in such way!

Other thing about katha being like teacher or mahan or lecturer

I also could say it suits her charcater from the very beginning

Katha has faced many challenges in her life she is the perfect one to feel the depth of pain along with the value of help ( because there were others who actually helped her in a way or another like F, D) so her being always in a mood to give advices or provide helps to others ( as they gave her the chance to do so either meera earlier opened the subject of yuvraj to her or the garewel family during reet delivery or viaan who wanted anything from her and welcoming her advice), so it's normal as per her personality to like to help others

In fact we have less types of people who want to provide help or support (when they themselves have a big burden to deal with in their life!) bur i won't come to reality.

Yessss she isn't perfect or super woman so it may provide advice which may be not applicable.

SIMPLY If she was superwoman she could find better way to save her child other than accepting to sell her body in ONS disgusting deal.

Also she always witnessed the stressed vian in regard with his father so it's ordinary to let him trying the different pathway with forgiving or in other word forgetting or letting the hatred out

I know forgiving is the hardest way to choose and not everyone has the courage or the capability to forgive others especially close ones but what if we consume our SHORT life in hatred and grudge and not feeling anything beautiful rather we feel only bitter taste.

I like to see NON-toxic treatment of things in fiction because my life filled with problems already so 20 minutes of good vibes would be beautiful (while i'm actual fan of intense drama but trying to give myself some break 😂😂😂❤️)

I still have manythings to say about the show and i want to vent them out hopefully soon 😅❤️

Originally posted by: kushikumari

Katha herself, an orphan did not just learn to survive, but she learned to thrive. Being a successful architect, falling in love, having a home to call her own, and then losing the one person with whom she felt like she belonged, almost an orphan again if it wasn’t for having Aarav. She managed to face her challenges and do what needed to be done to make life easier. Without holding a grudge against the in-laws for their lack of acceptance, she walked right back into their arms when they finally welcomed her. So, for someone like her, this is the best advice to give. Don’t run away from your challenges, face it and deal in the best way with it.

This is how it is across cultures. My experience was this, so my advice is this…. However, people differ in their ways of handling challenges and so for that, a professional’s help and guidance is absolutely necessary.

Infinite likes for this Kushi❤️👍🏼

I totally agree. Battling with a child's terminal illness and almost losing that battle is probably the worst anybody can face🤗That too a long, drawn out one for several years. Nothing comes close to watching a child who is suffering, trying to find ways for that child to survive, and provide the means for that survival, putting on a brave front and in the process also having to deal with her own fears and sorrow with no companion is not a mean task😭 Fate has given her the worst possible blows and she never lost her face nor the courage👍🏼 She maintained her decorum and kindness towards people around her and had been permissive to herself to grieve and come to terms with that fate/destiny. How did she do it? By putting one foot in front of the other and moving on❤️😭

She became that person whom her in-laws look upto for her sheer grit. At the same time, she doesn't flaunt her invincibility, she remains vulnerable, accepting and kind. She handled her difficulties really well, came to terms with her reality by facing whatever life has thrown at her🤗 So agreed, she is speaking from her own experiences❤️.

@bold...... absolutely.

While Viaan ( older ) and Viraaj both of them have been bull headed idiots. Looks like Teji will be thrown under the bus for something here. But, if we take out Teji from the equation, what an idiot the father is to have simply turned his back on his child, young Viaan😡. Never to make any attempt to meet him, talk to him or guide him? I am not going to blame the young Viaan to have abandonment issues. But, the older Viaan with all the baggage he carried, never even felt that his thinking is flawed???? He never even ventured to find out the truth which his mom and Farah aunty are trying to hide?

How long can one blame parents and upbringing for their behavior and decisions as adults? Don't we need to take responsibility at some point in our lives for our actions and behavior?

For those of us drama lovers, looks like they are trying to bring in some masala. Just hope they don't put feekha masala in biryaani Kya pata Viaan doosri biwi ka beta ho😲☺️

I am too tired today for a proper review🤔. I will be busy for the next few days

Originally posted by: mili9

Infinite likes for this Kushi❤️👍🏼

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While Viaan ( older ) and Viraaj both of them have been bull headed idiots. Looks like Teji will be thrown under the bus for something here. But, if we take out Teji from the equation, what an idiot the father is to have simply turned his back on his child, young Viaan😡. Never to make any attempt to meet him, talk to him or guide him?
Or leave a letter for him? 🤷‍♀️
I am not going to blame the young Viaan to have abandonment issues. But, the older Viaan with all the baggage he carried, never even felt that his thinking is flawed???? He never even ventured to find out the truth which his mom and Farah aunty are trying to hide?

If he didn’t realize his thinking is flawed, he could have at the very least sought help for all the emotions he held onto so tightly. How about Eshan? He never asked questions? Or are the women sworn to secrecy and so have rehearsed answers or never shared anything?🤔
How long can one blame parents and upbringing for their behavior and decisions as adults? Don't we need to take responsibility at some point in our lives for our actions and behavior?

Good question! Except, it’s so convenient that most are perfectly alright with the blame game. The conditioning is too deep rooted by the time they are adults and it takes plenty of effort to reverse it. The mental health professionals have quite a task in first undoing such habits, before helping to cultivate those habits that serve for the better! Imagine adding to this all the free advice! 😳😳

For those of us drama lovers, looks like they are trying to bring in some masala. Just hope they don't put feekha masala in biryaani Kya pata Viaan doosri biwi ka beta ho😲☺️

Haha! And Teji adopted him! Yes masala is probably coming our way and it should make mango’s heart skip a beat or two…. but, what are the chances that the writers will close the loop in 2 weeks or get distracted and leave us scratching our heads?!!
Also, what can be so earth shattering? Or Viaan shattering? And in all this where is the romance?

I am too tired today for a proper review🤔. I will be busy for the next few days

Nice excuse 😂 although I do wonder what they will show that will make us sit up and write…..

Originally posted by: Rsrockz

In bold I never find any fault or wrong with Katha agreeing for ONS. IMO because such a thing has happened between them, it needs to be discussed and sorted out before they proceed for a lifelong relationship.

My problem isn't with Katha helping out viiaan, but how CVs bring new plots with no closure or relevance to the ongoing tracks, also the pace of story progression has significantly slowed post confession.

Viaan discussing his love life with a little Aarav, him not realising the connection between Kathaa and Aarav is all silly.

IMO certain things in this world can't be ameliorated by talks instead individual has to face their own trauma, also trauma isn't some dirty stain which can be washed off with a magic formula in this case kathaa's advice. I felt CVs are going overboard in portraying kathaa as the all powerful woman, sadly even best sweet can cloy the mouth if consumed in excess.

I felt the respectable distance between kaviaa is missing and the dignified Viaan is missing, what is the need to show everything isn't going well with Viaan. He's a successful businessman, with a charming personality, he was an excellent negotiator with very good convincing skills.

They could have brought some twist in Teji life with Vanya's entry and could have used that plot to establish kathaa's relationship with Tejji, similarly the reveal of kathaa's son to Viaan and Aarav to know Viaan is kathaa's boss.

There can be lot of issues after their marriage as well like their professional idiosyncrasies and all can be highlighted challenges of being a stepfather dad to an adolescent etc can be explored.

There's no need for this unnecessary drag.

I don't say katha is wrong but it should be extremely disgusting thing as a woman to accept for her that's why i said she isn't superwoman that she accepted it.

And yeah it should be part when they came to be in relarionship

About dragging, to me it's expected with a daily show and 20 minutes episode and maybe the show continue to near the end of the year as they said that's why they drag things while i myself don't find it like that as to me this part is bringing katha and viaan closer and here katha is the one who couldn't avoid being support to him with her words (what she could do)

The respectful distance and dignified viaan, well i think that very successful businessman is a must to be a successful man in your personal life

Even the initial viaan wasn't all well

Maybe he doesn't show that with his masked aggressiveness and rudeness and focusing on work more but actually he was the same sad person with difficulties (because he was avoiding to deal witg thus trauma NOW he wanted to handle it)

And as per the original, i don't think that professional therapist would be there for viaan becuase the core of the show is to evaluate the impact of katha presence in viaan life (i don't talk about reality) but for the ONS offer and relevation it's all about that (it's not about viaan alone and his journey to be treated) it's about katha is the one to heal him after his shock with relevation and afterwards

Even if many of you don't like that fact of the show but it's what been shown and will be the same till the end i guess.

Respectful distance for me is better here from original (where for example the male lead wasn't only staring at the FL but was constantly going to her house surprisingly manytimes and some of them with the excuse of fake work)

Now viaan is welcoming katha presence in his life and saying she was always helping him unwillingly and sge is the light to guide him so she doesn't invade his personal life irrespectfully

And that's how the lobe story would work because nothing in my himble opinion will get katha out from her comfort zone to remain as she is rather than viaan being in need to help or support

That's why i could see the show writing and how i'm enjoying it

And here i could find why many of you are pisssd off because you don't want it this way while i'm fine with it ❤️

Originally posted by: Rsrockz

Exactly, discussing about such a thing committed by a parent is a trauma in itself and nobody becomes great by giving bashan like Kathaa, instead people need a shoulder to cry upon and probably a compassionate listener. Wounds and scars never heal by scratching or poking them. Instead many good experiences make people feel unburdened from their past trauma.

yes, people don't realize the power of listening. to be honest, we feel like we have to give advice or say something when people randomly download stuff on us. but sometimes well-meaning advice only hurts people -- it makes them feel like their pain is invalidated and no one wants to hear them out. that is the reason people don't open up and talk about their struggles. if you are told to 'just move on' - the underlying implication is that you are weak for letting it effect you.

in one of my favourite kdramas, the girl will ask her friend on how to deal with ML after his losses. the friend shares how he was simply present for a hurting friend as he didn't know what else to say and later the hurting friend said that was the most helpful. so that is what the girl does, at times, she literally says nothing while sitting next to him (while OST is being played) and at other times, she does it her style like give him the bitter truth as well forcing him to do stuff like cleaning the room to get out of the depressed vibe! 😆

so there is a time for listening, a time for tough advice and time for action.

so kushi, shimo -- I hear what you are saying that katha's advice giving is in line with her character and experiences. that makes sense. what I don't care for is the jump into advice. it feels like without building that kind of emotional connection between viaan and katha where she simply listens and hears his story, she is on lecture mode where she pops up for 2 minute lectures and then waltzes away. I guess the connection was supposed to be lonovala but it was all done too quickly. I don't know. like I said, there is a time for everything.

also, since they hardly show katha as vulnerable, it is hard to take her advice as well-meaning and instead it comes across as bashan like rsrockz said. there is a saying in tamil -- 'if you get a fever, you will know' - it means when people experience something similar, then they shut up with the unneeded advice and instead listen. till then, they give advice as a way of making themselves superior. katha is coming across as a typical FL in that way. 🤷