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Originally posted by: Sutapasima

If there is same sex marriage ,should they be allowed to adopt child of opposite sex ? what do you all feel about this ?

Why not? What does child have to do with it?

Originally posted by: la_Reine

Why not? What does child have to do with it?

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

We should ask the members with legal knowledge if Indian courts allow two guys to adopt a little girl . Am not sure .. but am curious to know .

But if a man who has a wife is allowed to adopt and father an unknown baby girl after background research, then what's wrong with gay couples doing it? I think they just need proper background investigation before approval

Originally posted by: la_Reine

But if a man who has a wife is allowed to adopt and father an unknown baby girl after background research, then what's wrong with gay couples doing it? I think they just need proper background investigation before approval

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

why deny a child motherly love knowingly ? ,., why their child be denied fatherly affections in childhood ? I feel both parents play unique role in bringing up a healthy child . That’s my opinion .

India currently allows adoption by an individual rather than a married couple. The adoption isn't blocked by the absence of a mother or a father. The benefit to the orphan child from being adopted outweighs prejudice based on the false distinction between "motherly" and "fatherly" love.

When the law prevents one same-sex/non-binary partner from adopting the child born to or adopted by the other partner, and the argument is "deprivation of motherly/fatherly love," that is bigoted and against the interest of the child.

If you want your opinion to carry weight, try having an informed opinion. Look at the evidence. Since the legalization of marriage equality in the Netherlands, a generation of children has grown up with same-sex parents from birth. Their educational outcomes are better than with opposite-sex parents.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0003122420957249

I won't deny that a child bonds with its mother through gestation and nursing, but after that, there isn't "motherly love" or "fatherly love." There's just the unique personality and life experience of each parent, regardless of assigned sex or gender identity.

As society moves towards equality, with more men learning to change diapers and plan nutritious meals, and more women having disposable income to bribe kids with candy, each generation's ideas of what is "motherly" or "fatherly" love will shift.

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

Not no that’s not the point . What I mean is suppose two people of same sex get married .. say two males … it’s legal … they may love eachother … but when it comes to a child they can both give fatherly love n not motherly love.. why deny a child motherly love knowingly ? Same with two lesbians getting married ,., why their child be denied fatherly affections in childhood ? I feel both parents play unique role in bringing up a healthy child . That’s my opinion .

Unfortunately, this question was also asked in the court by the Govt's lawyer during the same sex marriage hearing, but then ,there are single parents, divorcees/widowers/widows, and they raise their kids.

If you watch modern family, sex education and b99, they beautifully show what's it like to be a gay couple and raise children as a gay couple.

In my opinion, normalising is most important. Humans are capable of affection, labelling them mom's love or dad's love was done by patriarchy. If a man loves his daughter but has no woman, should be just say "I won't feed my child coz that's a mom's job?" Same logic applies here. This is also where heterosexual couples are wronged. Women are expected to be maternal, kind. Can't a man do it? (And yes, m speaking emotionally, not biologically) So, as societies, normalise happy families, one where there is love, and not gender roles.

There is an IG page of two dad's raising a toddler (they are Indians settled abroad, i can't remember the UN) do search for them, they are IRL examples of how beautiful can world be if gay couples are allowed adoption.

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

Not no that’s not the point . What I mean is suppose two people of same sex get married .. say two males … it’s legal … they may love eachother … but when it comes to a child they can both give fatherly love n not motherly love.. why deny a child motherly love knowingly ? Same with two lesbians getting married ,., why their child be denied fatherly affections in childhood ? I feel both parents play unique role in bringing up a healthy child . That’s my opinion .

Everything is a gamble really. Even single fathers raise their children. And there are some kids who even have a mother but are denied of her love. I guess getting a carer is also an option for female children

Originally posted by: la_Reine

Everything is a gamble really. Even single fathers raise their children. And there are some kids who even have a mother but are denied of her love. I guess getting a carer is also an option for female children

Basic aim of humans is to live together, as we are social creatures and we love to share love n affection with our fellows … so let’s do just that….

Let’s make this world a beautiful place for every single person to have some one who loves n cares for them. ❤️❤️

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

Basic aim of humans is to live together, as we are social creatures and we love to share love n affection with our fellows … so let’s do just that….

Let’s make this world a beautiful place for every single person to have some one who loves n cares for them. ❤️❤️

Some men are capable of giving more love than women❤️ A lot of daughters are actually more close to their father

Originally posted by: la_Reine

Some men are capable of giving more love than women❤️ A lot of daughters are actually more close to their father

Am closer to my papa … but it’s not that my mummy loves me less…

But sons are generally closer to their moms .. can never deny that .