Shame on SS Rajamouli - Page 10

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Stop it !!....its because of people like you that all of us NIs get a bad name....😡

Well! It’s high time someone spoke out and I am just sharing my candid experience and opinion .. nothing to get offended by I guess

Originally posted by: NotAMuggle

Let me address 5 first 🙂

5. Hindi is not a "foreign language" if you consider yourself an Indian. Hindi is spoken & used by a large number of people in India. Heck! Hindi in Devnagari script is actually used in many official documentation. Granted, Hindi is not your mother tongue, but is not a foreign language as much as English is. Unless you mean to say you are not Indian but actually are British.

And the argument you put forward is the very reason why we do not have a common Indian language.

1. No, I did not mean Hindi is at present our common language & you should rather speak it. I was actually referring to why we do not have a common language. They say India is an example of unity in diversity. But sadly, right now there is only diversity & no unity because we just cannot come to an agreement on the topic of choosing our National Language. When India got her independence & her constitution was framed, it was proposed that we would be using English as an official language only for the next 10 years & by that time will come to an agreement about which language should be our National Language. And here we are! 76 years since Independence & still cannot decide on one single language & still clinging to English as if that's our legacy! Please don't say South Indian people have had no part in it.

2. And here again goes the sweet old generalization again 🙂 You are actually providing real time proofs of all my complaints you know! Read my post again. I do not go to a place & expect people to speak in *my language*, which is Bengali by the way (NOT Hindi) & Bengalis are NOT North Indians. Because I know that is impractical. Bengali is my mother tongue & I love Bengali but I do not expect everyone in this vast country to learn it & speak in it. That's impossible! That's why I feel there should be a common language, (approved & put forward by the Central Government) which every Indian should be taught in schools. That would make communication so much more smooth & hassle free. But for some reason people from South have very strong objection to that.

I do not feel the need to address rest of your post because I have not said / implied anything that you probably are assuming.

1. Foreign = something not native. Hindi is foreign to someone speaking Malayalam. Ie, not his native tongue.

This attitude in your post is why south Indians don't want Hindi as common language.

Because it is being imposed under the attitude we MUST consider it native. it's not. As simple as that.

English is also foreign, but using it puts north and south at equal disadvantage.

South Indians are under no delusions that English is legacy, but it gives a leg up to place peeps from the south on equal footing. Not hard to understand.

Or here's a novel a idea. Something that has existed since independence actually. Make sure north Indians learn a south Indian language as well. 3-language system as southern states follow. And compete in 2 languages for all higher ed and jobs. Want admission to medical college? Pass a Tamil test. South Indians will have to show Hindi competency. It hasn't happened in the 70+ years since 1947, so most south Indians would prefer not to fall into that trap again.

That is the *some reason* south Indians object to it.

2. Hon😆, I don't have to generalize. You just sneered at toota-phoota south Indian English and claimed people in Chennai should be speaking a common Indian language. Doesn't matter if you're Bengali. The entitlement would've been obvious to the Chennaiites you spoke with.

At the end of the day, language is only a medium of communication. But it is also a matter of culture, and some people just prefer to preserve theirs instead of adopting the culture from across state lines.

Originally posted by: MrChatVsNorway

Telegus and hard work ?🤣 Good joke lmao

They survive by belonging in a pack and have no qualities by which they can stand out individually lol

Their mediocrity, subpar and average selves cannot survive if they don’t have support from their community. They have fake cv, birth certificates, fake accent and what not

Truth to be told , they are pathetic 😛

First of all, it's Telugu not Telegu

And second, you seem to have been burned pretty badly by a telugu person and have taken it upon yourself to display your blatant ignorance and sad generalisations to make yourself feel better. Cry a little harder.

If possible, get some therapy.

Originally posted by: MrChatVsNorway

I m in the US and have a highly paying job with a house and 2 cars 😃 most importantly, I am in a good mental space but that doesn’t stop me from being honest bout my experiences with them and also I am candid enough to share them … my neighbors are telegus ..

what’s your definition of a loser ? Btw 🤣

Intelligence , intellect and hard work do not sound resonant with them darling 😃 cheat , fraud and fake .. they can’t even talk properly ..these are the words that are generally used for them if they had their way .. they would want the Americans to learn telegu and act according their culture .. basically want to build their own culture here without adapting at all.. example: the fraud body shop IT consultancies that they own here 😆

😆 To all those who claim south Indians should meekly agree to subjugate their culture to the Hindi-speaking plurality, here's why it won't happen voluntarily.

P.S. - Since my "toota phoota incomprehensible English" term has offended people here, I take responsibility of framing it the wrong way & apologize. I want to clarify I wasn't talking about the educated people of that section.

I was talking about the section who, cannot speak even basic English but you have to communicate with them on a daily basis. Like your hostel's maid, cook, watchman etc. On the road Auto rikshaw drivers, cab drivers, bus conductors etc. I have had nightmarish experiences while communicating with them & at some points it felt like they rather enjoyed my discomfort & helplessness 😑😑

DISCO'S ALWAYS GOOD ENTERTAINMENT !! ... DISCO DEEWANE 🥳

https://youtu.be/mcL6ZErM49Q

Originally posted by: NotAMuggle

Let me address 5 first 🙂

5. Hindi is not a "foreign language" if you consider yourself an Indian. Hindi is spoken & used by a large number of people in India. Heck! Hindi in Devnagari script is actually used in many official documentation. Granted, Hindi is not your mother tongue, but is not a foreign language as much as English is. Unless you mean to say you are not Indian but actually are British.

Why would you expect a southern state in India to speak Hindi? Both Hindi and English are the official languages of India so they are interchangeable. English has a wider audience and used excessively for official documentation and clerical work? The reason you're not typing in "devnagari script" is the reason many prefer English in the globalized world. Ease of understanding is foremost. I would understand if people spoke only in tamil and enforced it on the state citizens to converse only in tamil, but that's not the case.

Many indians down South also are not proficient in Hindi and prefer English. There's a long history as to why South Indians are so vehemently opposed to Hindi, maybe read up on that so you understand it better. Just a suggestion.

Originally posted by: NotAMuggle

P.S. - Since my "toota phoota incomprehensible English" term has offended people here, I take responsibility of framing it the wrong way & apologize. I want to clarify I wasn't talking about the educated people of that section.

I was talking about the section who, cannot speak even basic English but you have to communicate with them on a daily basis. Like your hostel's maid, cook, watchman etc. On the road Auto rikshaw drivers, cab drivers, bus conductors etc. I have had nightmarish experiences while communicating with them & at some points it felt like they rather enjoyed my discomfort & helplessness 😑😑

That can get terrifying. :(

I'm sorry for coming down like a ton of bricks, too.

IMO, Hindi debate will only get settled when there is actual learning of languages from both ends. So a south Indian visiting north will also not have the same nightmarish experience.

BOTH ARE GREAT ... ENTERTAINMENT !! SEETI MAAR 🥳

https://youtu.be/WLD0kUKybeE

https://youtu.be/mvgRsyQYWMo

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

1. Foreign = something not native. Hindi is foreign to someone speaking Malayalam. Ie, not his native tongue.

This attitude in your post is why south Indians don't want Hindi as common language.

Because it is being imposed under the attitude we MUST consider it native. it's not. As simple as that.

English is also foreign, but using it puts north and south at equal disadvantage.

South Indians are under no delusions that English is legacy, but it gives a leg up to place peeps from the south on equal footing. Not hard to understand.

Or here's a novel a idea. Something that has existed since independence actually. Make sure north Indians learn a south Indian language as well. 3-language system as southern states follow. And compete in 2 languages for all higher ed and jobs. Want admission to medical college? Pass a Tamil test. South Indians will have to show Hindi competency. It hasn't happened in the 70+ years since 1947, so most south Indians would prefer not to fall into that trap again.

That is the *some reason* south Indians object to it.

2. Hon😆, I don't have to generalize. You just sneered at toota-phoota south Indian English and claimed people in Chennai should be speaking a common Indian language. Doesn't matter if you're Bengali. The entitlement would've been obvious to the Chennaiites you spoke with.

At the end of the day, language is only a medium of communication. But it is also a matter of culture, and some people just prefer to preserve theirs instead of adopting the culture from across state lines.

"Hon", Just answer one question. How many % of people in India speak a single south language? 🙂 Again clarifying, I am not Hindi's advocate, but an advocate of a common language, whichever that language may be. At the end of the day we are Indian first and Bengali, Punjabi, Tamil, Telugu, Bihari, Assamese etc second.

To quote your own definition

"Foreign = something not native"

So you are saying India, the whole undivided India is not your native country? Or are you saying South India is not a part of India or North India is not part of India?🙂 At this point, you are just stubbornly refusing the see the problem and this is why people from other places of the country do not feel welcomed in your place. 🙂

And this snooty notion that you are preserving your culture while others aren't is another reason behind it. Even Punjabis, Bengalis, Assamese.... most of the communities actually, know to love, respect & preserve their heritage & culture as well as be open to co-operate to build a united India.