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Indian farmers currently have the right to sell their products, mainly wheat and rice, to the government for a guaranteed minimum support price (MSP) that is set periodically each year. The MSP system runs largely on trust. Policymakers can effectively dismantle it by setting the price so low that no farmer will want to sell, or by not providing accessible product collection centers. In many parts of India today, for example, farmers are told they can sell their grain at a certain price, but there is nowhere in their vicinity to sell it.

If the government dismantles the MSP system instead of reforming it, millions of farmers will be forced to sell their products to four or five big agribusiness corporations. And this is precisely what the fine print of the new laws reveals.


https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/indias-farm-laws-are-a-global-problem/

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https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/politics/explained-what-are-the-three-farm-laws-and-what-made-them-controversial-7738991.html

The law sought to create a legal framework for contract farming in its Sections 3-12. The farmers could enter into a direct agreement with a buyer before sowing season to sell their produce at pre-determined prices. It allowed setting up of farming agreements between farmers and sponsors. The law, however, did not mention the MSP that buyers need to offer to farmers.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

Freedom of the press is joke. Press is propaganda machine.

Rana Ayyub who criticizes modi and writes anti-India articles did forgery. Court let her go saying 10-15 lakh forgery is small amount. She is happily appearing in debates and continuing her hate propaganda.

Are you telling me she doesn’t have freedom?

Rajdeep Sardesai hates modi and bjp. He is also happily doing his news anchoring since decades. Nothing happened to him.

If you are talking about Umat Khaleed, he has accepted he had hands in Delhi riots. He is no journalist. He is a terrorist.

All News media outlets have bias. No one is balanced and centrist. Left had bias and right bas bias!!


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/28/world/asia/indian-journalist-arrested-modi.html

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Grumpydwarf24


And there were plenty of experts who were against these bills as well. Saying that they would make the situation worse. Even those who agree that there is an issue with the farming crisis in India are looking for a solution. In fact I attend meetings every month with experts. But these bills would have made the situation worse. It was sold as free market solution. What they were going to do is monopolize the entire industry over to one person. It is not hypothetical! Then what your saying these bills were going to improve the situation is also hypothetical. Small farms are not sustainable so put the small farmers out business?


Farmers in India 250 million that protested do not know what they are talking about. Farmers from all over the world do not know what they are talking about. Some experts who you have not even shared do.

I have shared a report, pls read through it it is from IGIDR, it also has several references which will give you the same picture, IGIDR is a reputed academic institution with independent academics and even raghuram rajan was associated with it, there are similar reports from NABARD and all these reports and studies are not some arm chair experts but ppl who do primary surveys with farmers and its data over the years. NABARD finances these farmers, they work with them through micro credit and all these reports have been peer reviewed, they are indpendent.


they also have recommendations of what is the way forward for small farms if phased out


since you have admitted that small farms are not sustainable but msp and subsidies should be continued and the bills scrapped, i would like to learn how to resolve the farming crisis or how these small farms can be made profitable keeping status quo

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Originally posted by: vcs17

I have shared a report, pls read through it it is from IGIDR, it also has several references which will give you the same picture, IGIDR is a reputed academic institution with independent academics and even raghuram rajan was associated with it, there are similar reports from NABARD and all these reports and studies are not some arm chair experts but ppl who do primary surveys with farmers and its data over the years. NABARD finances these farmers, they work with them through micro credit and all these reports have been peer reviewed, they are indpendent.

if you have read these reports you will know that they suggest what the bills are starting to do

they also have recommendations of what is the way forward for small farms if phased out

again the bills may not be perfect but they are the right start

since you have admitted that small farms are not sustainable but msp and subsidies should be continued and the bills scrapped, i would like to learn how to resolve the farming crisis or how these small farms can be made profitable keeping status quo


msp is the minimum guaranteed price. That is kind of like the minimum wage. You take that away and corporations can pay people whatever they would like. There are already people being abused for starvation wages. For the same reason, a crop should be given a minimum price guarantee. He should not be left at the mercy of the buyer.


How can small farming be made profitable? First of all do not pass laws without debate like these three laws were passed. And have farmers unions on the table. They had plenty of ideas.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

Zubair is extremely extremely biased.
He threw a lady to the wolves. He ruined her and her family’s life. He incited violence and riots across India.
I may or may not support Nupur but in a democracy she has a right to make a comment.
If you are so leftists, do you think her comments warrant fatwa and beheading calls?

Zubair silently supported beheadings. 6-7 Hindus got beheaded for marely posting on social media.

Did you see any outrage in international media for beheadings?


Goobear himself has posted hanuman jokes, Ram Sita jokes. If Nupur comments hurt him so much, why did he joke on ram-Sita?
If what he did to Nupur is not wrong then I wish same happens with his family!!




Is she evil too?


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/30/rana-ayyub-india-journalist-stopped-from-boarding-london-flight


Was it a coincidence Diljit got a tax fraud case against him after speaking up for the farmers? Tapsee Pannu's house got raided?

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