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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

@msin

Beautifully put.❤️

Cannot agree more.


See it's stupid to expect this from him after he got over P and whatever infatuation it was and fell in love with Sai. Also everyone in the family knew of this.. aisa nahi hai ki it was hidden...

But just because Sai died and Sam died doesn't mean these two should be together. It makes no sense. 👍🏼

I had mentioned this few days back, audience hate towards V and P would have been less if it had been any other girl. Because then his moving on would have made sense. People do move on. It's only right when you know that the other person is dead.

Expecting V to rekindle the same feelings for P BECAUSE Sai is absent is juvenile. Atleast Ash should have opposed this idea. Which is why I keep saying that the makers reduced V to one organ. Just physical needs, no emotional connect.

And his frustration is he is not doing that too 🤣


I have a relative who lost his mother when he was of marriageable age, didn't want to get married at all. Took few years of convincing him to finally get him married. Had a beautiful wife and son and unfortunately lost his wife few years ago. Now no one even dares to speak of remarriage even though his kid is young. Some people move on, some don't.


But because this is a show, ML and PL are married in a weird twist and not even for a justifiable reason.

It all suggests that ML won't move on with her. And like Sadhika, it makes me wonder sometimes if indeed this marriage is even there. Legal to hai nai vaise bhi 👎🏼

It's not even EMA or live in relationship... it's more like hostel roommates 🤣


So well articulated @Msin.


They literally live in the world where they say "Ek ladka aur ek ladki kabhi dost nahi ho sakte" . And then they turn around and encourage P to maintain her friendship and defend her actions. Two faced-Rakshas!!


Not that old feelings can't be rekindled. But the possibility is as good or as bad as some one completely new. But functioning around this theory and forcing people to make it work is completely stupid.

Especially when they are related and shared a relationship which forbids any romantic linking on morality grounds. This changes a lot about the past and present and how two people can be perceived together.

We may say that people die and life must go on. But some bonds live on even in death, and like you said Moor, it would not have appeared so cringy if it was some other girl.

It is P who was once married to V's brother. It is surprising how a family so regressive could think of such alliance and support it. Samrat is completely out here. Is it that simple for the family and for V to ignore the fact that P is Sam's widow? For P we know things are different. She never considered Sam as her husband. And she had always envisioned V in that space. But for V ever since P got married to Sam she has been his SIL. Moving on is not wrong. But here it is the person that is making it seem all wrong.


And most importantly the logic behind pushing these together is so wrong. Ashwini thinking that P is the only one who can make V forget Sai. She is so obsessed in her love for her son and her hatred for Sai that she defies logic and her own understanding. She has been a witness to everything,

Yes they are making it more like physical relationship is all that matters. How shallow when we know how shortlived that aspect is and it is all about emotions later.

I think for Ashwini it is not V's preference. She knows Sai's hold on his heart. But like Sai, she knows P's potential to manipulate V. And she is instigating P to use her manipulation on V. It is her tactic because she knows V is not giving in. I doubt she is really thinking that V has any love for P or he can ever fall in love. She is only wanting him to move on from Sai. Saam daam dand bhed!!

How much awkward can they make relationships.

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Posted: 3 years ago

I was discussing this with Nethraa today and wanted your opinions. As it is the marriage is very uncomfortable. So I m not going there. If we assume that it is a marriage of convenience for the sake of adoption and they both have agreed to the conditions then why is it wrong if virat doesn’t want to move on!


pakhi agreeed to his conditions that they will be only parents to vinu. She herself said that. Virat is just sticking to them. Remember during deal days we all discussed why sai should not be obliged to understand virat if he started loving her! He talked about deal and sai was just following it. Here too just because pakhi wanted more, how is it fair to expect that virat should not give her hopes?! Role reversal should work right.

I know he is using pakhi now because sai is here and he wants to prove something to her out of his frustration , but if sai is not here then family pushing him to move on just because pakhi did so much to the family is unfair right. Pakhi agrred to the terms during the marriage. Didn’t she?

My only problem is virat giving her hope now because sai is around and he is frustrated. Otherwise if sai is not here and if he doesn’t move on then there is nothing wrong. Because that’s what they agreed upon. If tomorrow pakhi wants more and he could not provide it, he would have come out of the marriage.

If he is not coming out of it and also not moving ahead, then there should be some reason why he is staying put. It cannot be for vinu because vinu has no bond with her. He is absolutely fulfilled with only his dads love. So why is he staying in this marriage? That’s the reason I m waiting to see. That will be the reason tomorrow why sai might consider to get back to him.


let me know if I m missing something

Edited by sadiltl - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I was discussing this with Nethraa today and wanted your opinions. As it is the marriage is very uncomfortable. So I m not going there. If we assume that it is a marriage of convenience for the sake of adoption and they both have agreed to the conditions then why is it wrong if virat doesn’t want to move on!


pakhi agreeed to his conditions that they will be only parents to vinu. She herself said that. Virat is just sticking to them. Remember during deal days we all discussed why sai should not be obliged to understand virat if he started loving her! He talked about deal and sai was just following it. Here too just because pakhi wanted more, how is it fair to expect that virat should not give her hopes?! Role reversal should work right.

I know he is using pakhi now because sai is here and he wants to prove something to her out of his frustration , but if sai is not here then family pushing him to move on just because pakhi did so much to the family is unfair right. Pakhi agrred to the terms during the marriage. Didn’t she?

My only problem is virat giving her hope now because sai is around and he is frustrated. Otherwise if sai is not here and if he doesn’t move on then there is nothing wrong. Because that’s what they agreed upon. If tomorrow pakhi wants more and he could not provide it, he would have come out of the marriage.

If he is not coming out of it and also not moving ahead, then there should be some reason why he is staying put. It cannot be for vinu because vinu has no bond with her. He is absolutely fulfilled with only his dads love. So why is he staying in this marriage? That’s the reason I m waiting to see. That will be the reason tomorrow why sai might consider to get back to him.


let me know if I m missing something


It was not wrong as long as V maintained his distance. Because these were conditions that were mutually agreed upon. There was no pressure on either as far those conditions were concerned. V would have stepped back if P had any disagreement. He was firm there, and P appeared to be in her penance, where all she wanted to do compensate for her crimes which led to the losses.

Now if she has started to have expectations it is her problem. She can't blame anyone for it. Even when she goes berserk in her frustration that after all these years of selfless service she has not earned her reward, it is her problem. She can't hold V responsible. In fact, it only shows her own fickle nature and her own selfish heart behind her selflessness.

Coming to the family, I don't think everyone is aware of their status quo, or their agreement. Remember how Mohit was surprised that V is still not over Sai?


But like I mentioned the other day, there is more to V that we don't know. I agree there is something that had made him so calm about his marriage with P after he came to know about Sai. And after how they separated if he could still be so casual, meant he was sure he could easily convince Sai with his justifications. So there got to be something really consequential, that makes the whole marriage inconsequential.

However, to make it difficult for V and to entangle things and their lives, MU have been brought in. With this V will do mistakes that will have to turn things difficult for him.


Him not moving on with P is fine. But what is wrong is him using P to get back at Sai. P asking and V denying was also not wrong on his part. But now V is giving hope to P. He has in so many words told her that he is now considering moving on with P. Even if P senses the truth, V has crossed that line. And now he is accountable. P can't be blamed if she is hoping and demanding things. Because V himself has given her clear indications which makes their earlier arrangements null and void. There were not carved in stone and if both agreed they could move on.


But if you are referring to mental illness, it is even worse if V is playing these games with P. He is supposed to be the one who should have been the managing things with P and he is screwing things up. So even this is going against his favour.


I agree, it seems that there is more to what meets the eye with V. But how he has been with P lately, will take away any of those chances he has at redemption

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Posted: 3 years ago

Wow thanks for putting out so clearly in words. It is becoming difficult to express his side of stance in the marriage. You explained it well . It is ‘there’ something that might make virat completely clean in this mess. But it is not so tangible. His demeanor and confidence in handling pakhi and his marriage without getting frustrated and not coming out of it either.. not budging to her expectations. He was managing her well till sai came back.

Now he is losing that balance and in this mismanagement he is giving hopes to pakhi. However even pakhi is not buying them 😅.

Yes he has to give some indication of his unwillingness to move on in this marriage and it has to be soon! Otherwise it is turning too ugly :(

Edited by sadiltl - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

After seeing P s jealous and insecure face in the balcony of today s episode, i feel she s inviting Savi and hence Sai just to show her position in CN. She s getting jealous now

She's indirectly starting to make Sai jealous.

However Vinu will lock himself but the way P forced everyone to invite Sai and savi, it's very clear.

She knows once Savi comes , Sai will come later if she gets late or something.

She wants to show Sai , her position in CN.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Yeah could be that too! They are making pakhi so wooden wantedly to create the shock factor!

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Wow thanks for putting out so clearly in words. It is becoming difficult to express his side of stance in the marriage. You explained it well . It is ‘there’ something that might make virat completely clean in this mess. But it is not so tangible. His demeanor and confidence in handling pakhi and his marriage without getting frustrated and not coming out of it either.. not budging to her expectations. He was managing her well till sai came back.

Now he is losing that balance and in this mismanagement he is giving hopes to pakhi. However even pakhi is not buying them 😅.

Yes he has to give some indication of his unwillingness to move on in this marriage and it has to be soon! Otherwise it is turning too ugly :(

There is another parallel in it. As Sai has said that there is nothing between her and V, but because of P's shenanigans they may come closer.

Until Sai was "dead", V avoided P. Had started to consider to move forward as a "friend". But now ever since he saw Sai with JM moving at a speed of light. Sai is now the catalyst to bring them closer. How close, let's sit down with popcorn?


@bold. The journey of Pakhi to Patralekha. We want to know

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: szsiddiqa

There is another parallel in it. As Sai has said that there is nothing between her and V, but because of P's shenanigans they may come closer.

Until Sai was "dead", V avoided P. Had started to consider to move forward as a "friend". But now ever since he saw Sai with JM moving at a speed of light. Sai is now the catalyst to bring them closer. How close, let's sit down with popcorn?


@bold. The journey of Pakhi to Patralekha. We want to know

Jab Pakhi aur Sai ka promo huva tha tab mere phele reaction yehi tha .. Pakhi sirf Sai ko iss liye la rahi hain taki woh hamesha ke liye Sairat ko dur kar sake . Ab dekho Pakhi ke sare Mahaan act se sirf Virakhi kareeb araha hain .

Pakhi ne Sai ko waapas laya tabhi Virat uski kareeb aya emotionally aur usko hug aur feeding scene mila jo 5 saal se nahiin mila tha .

Pakhi ne Sai ko drop karne ke liye haan kaha tab JM aur Sai ko dekhar Virat ne usse haq dene ki baat ki aur Anniversary celebrations aur necklace mila . Agar Sai Kankovli mein hoti tab Virat itne kareeb nahiin atha .

Ab iss anniversary party ke din kuch aisa hoga jisse Virat aur move on karne ke bare mein soche ga aur shayad Pakhi ke bistaar tak jayega . Sab Pakhi ke favour mein ho raha hain . Vinu Anjaane mein Pakhi ki madat kar raha hain .

Edited by JinglesRead - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: JinglesRead

Jab Pakhi aur Sai ka promo huva tha tab mere phele reaction yehi tha .. Pakhi sirf Sai ko iss liye la rahi hain taki woh hamesha ke liye Sairat ko dur kar sake . Ab dekho Pakhi ke sare Mahaan act se sirf Virakhi kareeb araha hain .

Pakhi ne Sai ko waapas laya tabhi Virat uski kareeb aya emotionally aur usko hug aur feeding scene mila jo 5 saal se nahiin mila tha .

Pakhi ne Sai ko drop karne ke liye haan kaha tab JM aur Sai ko dekhar Virat ne usse haq dene ki baat ki aur Anniversary celebrations aur necklace mila . Agar Sai Kankovli mein hoti tab Virat itne kareeb nahiin atha .

Ab iss anniversary party ke din kuch aisa hoga jisse Virat aur move on karne ke bare mein soche ga aur shayad Pakhi ke bistaar tak jayega . Sab Pakhi ke favour mein ho raha hain . Vinu Anjaane mein Pakhi ki madat kar raha hain .

My understanding of P's character keeping in mind:

- web promo -> ek Mrs Chavan hi, dusre Mrs Chavan ko ...

- Incomplete convo of P1 and P2 aamne-saamne

- jaise bhi rakho rah lungi

- surrogacy, V ke bacche se mein hamesha usse judi rahungi

- "tum chahte ho ke my tumhari zindagi ke aham faisle ka hissa banu" when V went to P's parents house to bring her back

P could not fight affection of her husband for a "dead" person, but now she has an opportunity. P1-P2 convo, fight for V.

P's best assets are camouflaging her real intent behind her saccharine sweet behavior. So far she has been successful. Sai is not in V's life, she is Mrs Chavan, Vinu is in her life (to hold on to Virat), fam members esp Ashwini is on her side. Esp Ashwini, because she has the ability to manipulate/convince V. Learnt from her mistakes to not rush. P had no problem being the other woman, now she has legal, social status of being Mrs Chavan, given by V himself and family. But Sai would. She hated P enough as "parivar", to leave the house, now seeing her in this status, Sai would act up and V in his ego will continue to ruin their bacha-kucha affection for each other.

P's confidence also lies in Sai's self-respect and V's ego. All she needs to add is play goody-goody bring them together (barood aur chingari) and enjoy the popcorn and the results. She will be there to help him in his misery. V will be all hers.

By bringing Sai from KK, convincing V to allow to treat Vinu, she is involved in his "zindagi ke aham faisle". She is content.

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In KK her first enquiry was about Savi. Savi looks much younger than Vinayak, hence she misjudges. Vinayak had to mature fast, maybe due to orphanage or due to being handicap or due to CN not truly accepting him , unlike Savi who is chirpy happy girl.

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When Savi is revealed P still has hold via Vinu. She wouldn't have any problem playing ghar-ghar. Still nothing to fear.

But P's true downfall would be when Vinayak's is revealed. She still has marriage card to play. But that was never a valid marriage and never had conjugal relations either (not sure after the anniv about the status on this part). P1, P2 ...P10 sab bahar nikal aayenge.

Her decisions and slyness are successful because of everyone else's goodness or stupidity.

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When P sees she is to loose everything she once again act mahan and offer "her" husband and child to Sai, to be reminded of her (mein yeh boquet unke beech mein rakhongi, take unko meri yaad dilate rahe)

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PS: As such P's character has no problem with anyone except Sai, all her vileness was directed at separating V-Sai. No one could see thru her, not even V. Even P's confession didn't seem to have any effect. It seemed like P in her mahanta was saying it to stop Sai from leaving. P gave kokh, which Sai couldn't and in her insecurity she is blaming P. P in her confession also was able to convince her innocense. How sly!!!

Edited by szsiddiqa - 3 years ago
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My understanding of P's character keeping in mind:

- web promo -> ek Mrs Chavan hi, dusre Mrs Chavan ko ...

- Incomplete convo of P1 and P2 aamne-saamne

- jaise bhi rakho rah lungi

- surrogacy, V ke bacche se mein hamesha usse judi rahungi

- "tum chahte ho ke my tumhari zindagi ke aham faisle ka hissa banu" when V went to P's parents house to bring her back

P could not fight affection of her husband for a "dead" person, but now she has an opportunity. P1-P2 convo, fight for V. Jaisa bhi rakhe rah rahi thi.

P's best assets are camouflaging her real intent behind her saccharine sweet behavior. So far she has been successful. Sai is not in V's life, she is Mrs Chavan, Vinu is in her life (to hold on to Virat), fam members esp Ashwini is on her side. Esp Ashwini, because she has the ability to manipulate/convince V. Learnt from her mistakes to not rush. P had no problem being the other woman, now she has legal, social status of being Mrs Chavan, given by V himself and family. But Sai would. She hated P enough as parivar, to leave the house, now seeing her in this status, Sai would act up and V in his ego will continue to ruin their bacha-kucha affection for each other.

P's confidence also lies in Sai's self-respect and V's ego. All she needs to add is play goody-goody bring them together and enjoy the popcorn and the results. She will be there to help him in his misery. V will be all hers.

By bringing Sai to KK, convincing V to allow to treat Vinu, she is involved in his "zindagi ke aham faisle". She is content.

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In KK her first enquiry was about Savi. Savi looks much younger than Vinayak, hence she misjudges. Vinayak had to mature fast, maybe due to orphanage or due to being handicap or due to CN not truly accepting him , unlike Savi who is chirpy happy girl.

---

When Savi is revealed P still has hold via Vinu. She wouldn't have any problem playing ghar-ghar. Still nothing to fear.

But P's true downfall would be when Vinayak's is revealed. She still has marriage card to play. But that was never a valid marriage and never had conjugal relations either. P1, P2 ...P10 bhi bahar nikal aayenge.

Her decisions and slyness are based on everyone else's goodness.

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When P sees she is to loose everything she once again act mahan and offer "her" husband and child to Sai, to be reminded of her (mein yeh boquet unke beech mein rakhongi, take unko meri yaad dilate rahe)

aapki vichaar se sehmat hoon . Pakhi ki selfless act ke peeche uska maqsad Ek hi hain Sai ko harana aur Virat ke kareeb hona . Woh kamyaab bhi ho rahi hain . Bas Ek hi decision mein woh khush nahiin thi woh hain orphange mein Sai ko kaam karna uske alwa usne sab kuch apne hisaab se sab ko nachaya hain Sai ko bhi .

Jab tak Vinu ka sach bhar ayega tab tak kya Pakhi apne maqsad mein kamyaab ho chuki hongi ? Kya Virat uska ho Chula hoga half hearted hi sahi ? Agar aisa huva na tab uska dialogue mein hamesha unke beech rahongi sach ho gayega . Agar Sairat mil bhi Gaye kya woh log Pakhi naam ke aurat ko kabhi bula payenge ?

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