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Posted: 2 years ago

Found this shloka


प्रातिपीयं महेष्वासं हतं भल्लेन बाह्लिकम् ।
प्रसुप्तमिव शार्दूलं पश्य कृष्ण मनस्विनम् ॥ ५ ॥

prātipīyaṃ maheṣvāsaṃ hataṃ bhallena bāhlikam |
prasuptamiva śārdūlaṃ paśya kṛṣṇa manasvinam || 5 ||


Trying to find the meaning


Pratipa (Sanskrit: प्रतीप, pratīpa), was the king of Hastinapur who belonged to Bharata's line of LunarDynasty of kings and was the father of Shantanu and grandfather of Bhishma ,Chitrangada and Vichitravirya.


So, son or grandson of Pratipa? Shantanu/ Bhishma


Once when King Pratipa was meditating on the bank of the river Ganges and chanting prayers, the Ganges. Ganga appeared after receiving the curse from Lord Brahma from the Svargaloka. Ganga came and sat on the right lap of Pratipa, and his meditation broke. Ganga considered Pratipa as that Mahibhisa who was also cursed along with her. And she requested Pratipa to marry her. Pratipa said that since Ganga had sat on his right lap, which was meant for a daughter or daughter-in-law, she will have to be wait till Pratipa begets a son. Therefore, he proposed to Ganga that she may marry his son and become his daughter-in-law. Ganga agreed to wait and said that Pratipa has to inform his son that she will be marrying on one condition that Pratipa's son should not enquire who she is and question her behaviour and thereupon Ganga disappeared. At this time Pratipa and his wife were still without children, but after they had performed some acts of austerity, their son Shantanu was born to them. He was later to marry Ganga and became the father of Devavrata or Bhishma.

Edited by DelusionsOfNeha - 2 years ago
devashree_h thumbnail
Posted: 2 years ago

Which section is this Shloka from?

Delusional_Minx thumbnail
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: devashree_h

Which section is this Shloka from?

Book 11 - Stri Parva

Chapter 22

verse (11.22.5)

devashree_h thumbnail
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

Book 11 - Stri Parva

Chapter 22

verse (11.22.5)


Then the answer is Bahlika, son of Pratipa.

1215019 thumbnail
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: devashree_h


Then the answer is Bahlika, son of Pratipa.

Correct! Nice teamwork to find the answer. Bāhlīka is called Prātipīya also at Droṇaparvan 132.13, where he hits Bhīma with a śakti (spear).


Incongruously, Bhīma uses a gadā (mace) to take off Bāhlīka's head, probably crushing it, but Gāndhārī describes him as killed by bhalla, which is usually translated as an arrow, and says that even in death, his face is bright and beautiful like the full moon.


At Sabhāparvan 56.2, Vidura refers to four groups of the family: Prātipīyāḥ Śāṃtanavāḥ Bhaimasenāḥ sa-Bāhlikāḥ - everyone descended from Pratīpa, from his sons, either Śaṃtanu or Bāhlika, or from his father Bhīmasena. The first two groups are addressed at Sabhāparvan 56.7.


Which two characters does Vidura address as Prātipīya at Sabhāparvan 57.17 and at Udyogaparvan 37.18?

devashree_h thumbnail
Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

Correct! Nice teamwork to find the answer. Bāhlīka is called Prātipīya also at Droṇaparvan 132.13, where he hits Bhīma with a śakti (spear).


Incongruously, Bhīma uses a gadā (mace) to take off Bāhlīka's head, probably crushing it, but Gāndhārī describes him as killed by bhalla, which is usually translated as an arrow, and says that even in death, his face is bright and beautiful like the full moon.


At Sabhāparvan 56.2, Vidura refers to four groups of the family: Prātipīyāḥ Śāṃtanavāḥ Bhaimasenāḥ sa-Bāhlikāḥ - everyone descended from Pratīpa, from his sons, either Śaṃtanu or Bāhlika, or from his father Bhīmasena. The first two groups are addressed at Sabhāparvan 56.7.


Which two characters does Vidura address as Prātipīya at Sabhāparvan 57.17 and at Udyogaparvan 37.18?


I know one is Duryodhana

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: devashree_h


I know one is Duryodhana

which one 🤣



Edit : Sabhaparva

लभ्यः खलु प्रातिपीय नरोऽनुप्रियवागिह ।
अप्रियस्य तु पथ्यस्य वक्ता श्रोता च दुर्लभः ॥ १७ ॥

labhyaḥ khalu prātipīya naro'nupriyavāgiha |

apriyasya tu pathyasya vaktā śrotā ca durlabhaḥ || 17 ||


This seems Duryodhana



37.18 Udyogparva

18 उक्तं मया दयूतकाले ऽपि राजन; नैवं युक्तं वचनं परातिपीय

तदौषधं पथ्यम इवातुरस्य; न रॊचते तव वैचित्र वीर्य


uktaṃ mayā dyūtakāle 'pi rājan; naivaṃ yuktaṃ vacanaṃ prātipīya

tadauṣadhaṃ pathyam ivāturasya; na rocate tava vaicitra vīrya ||18||


Bhishma?

Edited by DelusionsOfNeha - 2 years ago
1215019 thumbnail
Posted: 2 years ago

Correct on Duryodhana, but try reading Vaicitravīrya as one word.

1215019 thumbnail
Posted: 2 years ago

85. Whose name was Dhṛtarāṣṭraja?

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Posted: 2 years ago

His daughter, Dushala? I think that was her name...

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