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Posted: 3 years ago
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It surely would be ridiculous to "blame it all on Government of India" and clearly mean to do so to the "Hindus of the country"...

Yet, a country's government (with the help of party members and followers) has the power to lead people to follow a certain thinking claimed and/or supported by the political rulers.

The entertainment business is just a mean and an easy target. So, it is in no way something special that rulers/politics (mis-)use human's inclination for entertainment as a welcome distraction. Going to watch movies in theatres still needs a conscious decision making (and the financial means)...TV is a tool much easier available...so isn't is better for certain interests to keep people in front of TVs than encourage them to go to the theatres...there is even a word for that: national dulling.

And how do you damp the enthusiasm for theatre-going? You simply repeat and repat and repeat the same negative things...and yes, a government has the choice what is more spread: negativity or positivity, encouragement for hatred or encouragement for human sympathy and tolerance...

Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: naaznin


If not religion ppl will fight for something else. Since human civilization started Humans r fighting for one thing or other.

Religion is one of the way of connecting to god n it gives hope in tough times. No hope of things getting better puts ppl on suicidal paths.

I think one can still connect to God without following a religion. Believing in God and praying to God is one thing. Following a religion is much more complex. Example I believe in God and pray to God but I'm not religious.


Atleast in India extremism in religion in both religions has been the main cause of destruction of human lives. So isse better toh not following any religion is still better.


BTW I belong to Hindu religion but I'm not religious. I believe in praying God than being obsessed with a religion.


I don't get the extremists in these both religions. If these extremists of both religions are really following their religion, they don't do what they have been doing since many years because no religion teach to do these kind of extreme things in the name of religion.




Also I believe that just because one follow a religion they shouldn't expect others to believe it. Let people question about any religious beliefs without getting offended. If human stop questioning and blindly start believing everything blindly, humans wouldn't develop so much today.


If people believe so much in their God and their religion why can't they let their God punish the one who questioned their god/religion. .why go to the extremes in punishing others just because one doesn't believe in others religious beliefs.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Newbird

I think one can still connect to God without following a religion. Believing in God and praying to God is one thing. Following a religion is much more complex. Example I believe in God and pray to God but I'm not religious.


Atleast in India extremism in religion in both religions has been the main cause of destruction of human lives. So isse better toh not following any religion is still better.


BTW I belong to Hindu religion but I'm not religious. I believe in praying God than being obsessed with a religion.


I don't get the extremists in these both religions. If these extremists of both religions are really following their religion, they don't do what they have been doing since many years because no religion teach to do these kind of extreme things in the name of religion.




Also I believe that just because one follow a religion they shouldn't expect others to believe it. Let people question about any religious beliefs without getting offended. If human stop questioning and blindly start believing everything blindly, humans wouldn't develop so much today.


If people believe so much in their God and their religion why can't they let their God punish the one who questioned their god/religion. .why go to the extremes in punishing others just because one doesn't believe in others religious beliefs.

Will we like somebody come n comment on our parents n teachings they gave us. U can question ur own parents but not others parents on why u taught him or her this that.

Same way it's more offensive when u belong to different religion n comment on others religion.

Aamir Khan could have played a Muslim in same movie n comment same thing about namaz. But he didn't this is pure hypocrisy by him. If Hindus r getting offended by his dialogues they r somewhere right. Neither the script demanded nor there was any need for such scenes.


In PK movie was related to religious beliefs on ppl in India n all religions practices were made fun of so I didn't got the fuss that time. But here there was no need.

Edited by naaznin - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: MercurialMedusa

Common people in China do believe in God. Its their government who doesn't believe and sees to it that religion and religious beliefs are tightly locked inside the four walls of their people' homes and doesn't spill over onto the streets.


there are many who do not believe in god in china. lot of them. they are doing fine. not only china many in most other countries too. most of the people in western too doesn't believe in any organised religions these days

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: snatch


there are many who do not believe in god in china. lot of them. they are doing fine. not only china many in most other countries too. most of the people in western too doesn't believe in any organised religions these days

There are many such people in India too and given the sheer size of our population their number definitely will be more than population of many small nations!

Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: naaznin

Will we like somebody come n comment on our parents n teachings they gave us. U can question ur own parents but not others parents on why u taught him or her this that.

Same way it's more offensive when u belong to different religion n comment on others religion.

Aamir Khan could have played a Muslim in same movie n comment same thing about namaz. But he didn't this is pure hypocrisy by him. If Hindus r getting offended by his dialogues they r somewhere right. Neither the script demanded nor there was any need for such scenes.


In PK movie was related to religious beliefs on ppl in India n all religions practices were made fun of so I didn't got the fuss that time. But here there was no need.


I think You are comparing two false equivalencies.See God's existence is still debatable for many. So if a human doesn't believe a certain God's existence or beliefs it is still understandable because there are no solid evidences or proofs or experiments available to make it believe(i'm talking about any God) . So people end up not believe religious beliefs blindly and when they don't believe they end up questioning things. While parents existence no need to prove as they are humans.We can't go onto insult any human whether it is parents or others.


Regarding Amir khan I'm not even fan of him or any bollywood actors, I'm from South. I have not watched many bollywood movies, hardly watched 10 overall . I guess the dialogue is related to prayer/worship in general not particularly related to hindu's prayer/worship right? He is a sikh in the movie and I'm thinking he is referring to sikh's prayer his mom talked about or overall prayer/worship in general not particularly about hindu worship.


I would say the same to the people who go onto beheading people just because people questioned their religious believes They should either prove their belief or ignore and move on, they can't go onto beheading people for not blindly believing their religious beliefs.

Edited by Newbird - 3 years ago
Posted: 3 years ago
#17

Amir doesn't seem to be too religious. And also doesn't seem to hate Hindu religion, otherwise why would he marry 2 Hindu ladies? Of course he divorced them that's different story but he doesn't seem to have any agenda against Hinduism. Otherwise why he would marry 2 hindus in the first place. He seemed to randomly questions few hindu beliefs once or twice like we also question some Islam beliefs once or twice in our lives.

Edited by Newbird - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Clochette

Apart from believing in a force (or forces) we can't explain (and feel the need to give to them names and physique), mankind is definitely able to create hell on earth during lifetime (as much as mankind is able to create good and heaven on earth)...that life's law of opposing forces.

I don't think of hell and heaven after death (that would not make sense)...I more or less think that our souls will join either the "good" forces of the Universe or the "destructive" ones...and maybe souls get a chance to make new experiences in another lifetime...some to mature (or redeem).

So, in fact, there is no religion fabricated by mankind with rules and exclusivnesses that I would follow but I respect the inherent spirituality that ALL major religions have.


exactly my thoughts except the final line. i dont think religions teaches or have any role in this. religions are created for power and it will remain same.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Snatch, the question of power wasn't the initial thought...the starting point always (at least to my knowledge) was the delibarate following of the thought system (and behaviour) of a certain person... It only became a question of power with rules and persons who got special tasks making them superior to the common followers (like the seniors of a clan/family or the medecine men in nature religions of indigenes... (imo)

Edited by Clochette - 3 years ago

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