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Originally posted by: handlerxsaviour

I thought I was the only one with whom today’s episode just didn’t sit well with one bit. Nice to see someone else agrees. 🙂 I think it’s quite clear that this is being done to maintain Aryan’s relevance to the story. Because if they show Imlie as actually being able to exercise some autonomy and self-respect, and make independent decisions for herself, it’ll render Aryan’s character pointless to whatever the story is that they’re trying to tell right now (I don’t even know what it is anymore). I don’t know what disturbed me more, the fact that they shifted the entire focus of the narrative from Imlie’s ordeal to Aryan’s swooping in as the quintessential ITV hero and “rescuing” “poor”, “helpless”, “lost without him” her, or the fact that they didn’t even try to be subtle about it with the dialogues lol. Didn’t they present a similar narrative in the past with Aditya as well? It’s just not done for ITV makers unless the day is ultimately saved by a man. I find myself forgetting whose story we’re actually watching because the character whose story we’re supposed to be watching, is barely much more than a false protagonist in her own story.

I am baffled to be honest. They can never show a healthy relationship in ITV. Aryan's purpose only limited to gather up Imlie's fragments and the bad thing is that she is too easy to break. She does big stunts but is that really women empowerment?

This show had golden opportunity to question things of the society but I guess they will stick to this.

These days one hear a girl should earn money but will she really be independent?

Just notice Narmada's words she was angry coz Imlie went to work. What would be the scenario if this was the opposite way around?

Oh look that man came to work, his wife is in hospital but he needed to come to work Poor Him.

And the other way,

She is so shameless her husband is dying but she came to work.

Remember the serial Diya baati 1, that was a healthy relationship. Sooraj never much involved in Sandhya's work but still was the best husband one could get. That's how one should go for social messages.

But here what didn't Aryan provide her?

Internship, job, money, car and tell me a single thing she achieved herself?

It's all pre delivered to her so how do you expect me this show would be over the emotional dialogues and face reality?

For me Aryan earned for himself but none of the women in this serial(though they are in majority) earns or lives for themselves.

So though the serial has max number of women they would easily fail BECHDEL TEST!

Originally posted by: Lethamukund

I expected Imlie to take a stand for herself. walking out of the house with head held high, as she did no mistakes. she didn't voluntarily walked in to the marriage even. she prioritised him and his family even before marriage, even she kept her ex in law family before herself. but ITV means a man has to come and pick up a torn and tired girl. maybe to keep Aryan intact and important, they are downplaying Imlie

When it's a serial to be made for women, by Gul mata who is woman, has maximum women characters but none passes with independence of women. Women just loved men too much to the extent that every women needs to be saved by men. When the reality is opposite, no Prince comes to save the day.

They can't make Imlie give a strong message to women when she herself could not be for herself.

Tell me if you remove Aryan will there be Imlie's existence? The answer from her mental health will be No.

Is this Romantic? It will be portrayed as Romantic but is it really?

Nope... It's not romantic at all.

Most women are like these. And hence you see them giving this advice at the old age: LOVE YOUR HUSBAND OR THE MAN YOU LOVE BUT DON'T MAKE HIM YOUR ENTIRE WORLD...

You will be left with nothing at the death bed.

I haven’t watched today’s episode till now, I am not going to k*ll you 😆I understand the rant you are giving but given the situation in which imlie have from birth till now a person becomes to meek and gullible or bully and I don’t give a f**k, most of the people carve for something which they don’t have and imlie didn’t have identity and big family, negativity impacts more then positivity and imlie always have negative people around her more then positive people, first her nani from birth till she gets married, after marriage she have anu who is more venomous then her nani, for some periods of time her so called family and apne also became negative for her, following them her sister and her ex-husband, she is hurt and doubting herself because those words she have constantly hear and now it is coming from a person she considers her family so it will hurt the most and the she is 20 years some people are confused at that time for many things like. So I can’t blame her if use filthiest word for herself. Individuals like us who live with loved ones supporting parents and siblings around us are different from the individual who comes from broken family or no family. I can say we have strong base to stand but people like imlie don’t have that. I hope you understand my point

Well I did like today's episode but absolutely facepalmed at Imlie's dialogues. I was legit like this hearing what she said-

Till when Aryan will push her and sing the same song about not demoting herself all the time.

The day she stands up for herself will be the day she can give those vile people around her a befiting reply instead of allowing them to hurt her everytime.

*kya fayda bolke sab toh maafi mein hi niptane wale hain ye log*

Originally posted by: MiuniS

I am baffled to be honest. They can never show a healthy relationship in ITV. Aryan's purpose only limited to gather up Imlie's fragments and the bad thing is that she is too easy to break. She does big stunts but is that really women empowerment?

This show had golden opportunity to question things of the society but I guess they will stick to this.

These days one hear a girl should earn money but will she really be independent?

Just notice Narmada's words she was angry coz Imlie went to work. What would be the scenario if this was the opposite way around?

Oh look that man came to work, his wife is in hospital but he needed to come to work Poor Him.

And the other way,

She is so shameless her husband is dying but she came to work.

Remember the serial Diya baati 1, that was a healthy relationship. Sooraj never much involved in Sandhya's work but still was the best husband one could get. That's how one should go for social messages.

But here what didn't Aryan provide her?

Internship, job, money, car and tell me a single thing she achieved herself?

It's all pre delivered to her so how do you expect me this show would be over the emotional dialogues and face reality?

For me Aryan earned for himself but none of the women in this serial(though they are in majority) earns or lives for themselves.

So though the serial has max number of women they would easily fail BECHDEL TEST!

I am sorry but self love is not an innate biological thing. I think it's very tone deaf and privileged to ask people to "don't care about the maelstrom of abuse that is maliciously designed to hurt you and just self-love" Smile and depresion cured doesn't work

Ironically aryan has been trying to "not save" her since the beginning. He wants her to save herself. He wants her to put herself first.

You are speaking from the pov of person who has a healthy self worth. Not everyone can be like that. She has from the very beginning been shown to be a person who tolerates alot and does alot for the people she loves. Most of the times to her own personal detriment. But that is her default mode.

Her beating up people is the confidence of a 20 year old who feel they can do anything. Her falling apart is insecurity of a 20 year old who craves love and approval and a sense of belonging. And she is a 20 year old who has been through crap in the name of love

If this nonsense had come from someone like BM she wouldn't give two hoots. Its always when the people she loves attack her that she falls apart. She doesn't expect the attack from that direction so she gets blindsided.

The show does alot of things wrong but i honestly feel that they have managed to establish this duality of excessive self confidence and zero self worth of imlie very conclusively.

It is something that aryan tries desperately to change. And we see glimpses of progress here and there. Ironically most of it we see when she deals with aryan. Maybe because she is the most secure with him so she is the most honest with him.

Its like someone loves and feeds a puppy but then as soon as it comes close they beat it up. (weird analogy).... you can't then wonder why the puppy is so scared all the time. Its literally classic emotional abuse. Love her but also tear her down.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

I am sorry but self love is not an innate biological thing. I think it's very tone deaf and privileged to ask people to "don't care about the maelstrom of abuse that is maliciously designed to hurt you and just self-love" Smile and depresion cured doesn't work

Exactly. You can't just become confident bec you want to or someone tells you. It's a long process to undo ingrained self destructive behaviour.

(btw, most heroes of other shows will disappear if not for the heroine. They purpose of existence is tied to the main itv character which is the heroine)

(also i have issues with sooraj of diya aur baati who basically spoke alot of support but actually stood aside and watch Sandhya being put through alot of tests/torture/crap by bhabho. He was nowhere ideal. But thats a discussion for another day)

Originally posted by: bips

Ironically aryan has been trying to "not save" her since the beginning. He wants her to save herself. He wants her to put herself first.

You are speaking from the pov of person who has a healthy self worth. Not everyone can be like that. She has from the very beginning been shown to be a person who tolerates alot and does alot for the people she loves. Most of the times to her own personal detriment. But that is her default mode.

Her beating up people is the confidence of a 20 year old who feel they can do anything. Her falling apart is insecurity of a 20 year old who craves love and approval and a sense of belonging. And she is a 20 year old who has been through crap in the name of love

If this nonsense had come from someone like BM she wouldn't give two hoots. Its always when the people she loves attack her that she falls apart. She doesn't expect the attack from that direction so she gets blindsided.

The show does alot of things wrong but i honestly feel that they have managed to establish this duality of excessive self confidence and zero self worth of imlie very conclusively.

It is something that aryan tries desperately to change. And we see glimpses of progress here and there. Ironically most of it we see when she deals with aryan. Maybe because she is the most secure with him so she is the most honest with him.

Its like someone loves and feeds a puppy but then as soon as it comes close they beat it up. (weird analogy).... you can't then wonder why the puppy is so scared all the time. Its literally classic emotional abuse. Love her but also tear her down.

Will reply later as I am busy right now but by going through the comments in first phase I do have one question how do you guys assumed that I am from the privileged background where I had everything to build up my confidence of self love ...

And since I had everything I could not connect with Imlie's character who grew up in a deficit world and looking things from far lenses.

I might be one of the closest who could relate to Imlie with the senses that I was grown up alone when father's family outcastes us as my mom belong to different state. Every second my mom taught To live alone to live for yourself.

She fell in love and came to a different state. What she did have in return was funny... A bundle of cash from my grandmother to leave me and my father. Also my father still blames her day and night for ruining his family as they outcasted us.

So my opinion might not be likable but please don't think everyone is privileged in this world.

Not everyone has healthy atmosphere maybe that's why Imlie's dialogues triggered me more than ever.