Molkki Chatting Corner #58 - Page 17

Originally posted by: Kaiina

Dosti mai hand holding nai hota woh bhi itne kam time mai.

Hand holding vaise nai

Usne just tab pakra tha jab vo rok raha tha

Originally posted by: pallavi_p28

Haa, baat aage badh chuki hai.

Bas dono ko is bare me baat karna hai.

Baki dono ek dusre ki feeling samjhen lage hai

Tabhi to wo ladka nezz ko roj drop karta hai aur nezz bhi aaj ye baat humse share kar rahi hai, confirmed karne ke liye

Agar mera kata fir batati hu aplogo ko

Pallu so jao late ho raha hoga apko

Mai toh abhi bhoot jaise jagi rahungi

Originally posted by: Nezuko

Hand holding vaise nai

Usne just tab pakra tha jab vo rok raha tha

Kyu rok raha tha, jab tumhara office time over ho chuka tha

Itna easy nHi hai, kisi ladki ka haath pakadna chahe wo ladki

Coligue hi kyu na ho

Originally posted by: Nezuko

Agar mera kata fir batati hu aplogo ko

Tum bacchi nhi ho

Originally posted by: pallavi_p28

Kyu rok raha tha, jab tumhara office time over ho chuka tha

Itna easy nHi hai, kisi ladki ka haath pakadna chahe wo ladki

Coligue hi kyu na ho

Mere ko kya pata kyu rok raha tha 🤣

But isi harkat ke baad mujhe laga ki mai puch lu yaha ap logo se

Originally posted by: Nezuko

Pallu so jao late ho raha hoga apko

Mai toh abhi bhoot jaise jagi rahungi

Good night and take care

Originally posted by: pallavi_p28

Tum bacchi nhi ho

Ye use karna tha

Ok sry

Originally posted by: SmithaRam

Bad comparison! That is like comparing apples & oranges.

I think I get what Nezu is saying. Providing an opinion while debating a subject as an arm chair expert is different from walking the talk in reality.

Although, I said kanyadhaan makes no sense in today's world, when the time comes I will not speak against it, because I find it trivial to waste my time arguing about it with the parties who cannot be convinced; because my voice will be overpowered by the vast majority who believe otherwise. There is a time and place to voice my opinion, "Shaadi ka matap" is not one of them. ( I think this was what Nezu was alluding to. Sorry, if this is not what you meant!)

When & if I have power to not follow a ritual that I don’t believe in, I will do what suits me. For ex, if I am the father/parent of the bride or eldest in the family, I will do everything in my power to stop it this myth from being carried forward.

We sometimes follow practices that we don’t like to please elders & loved ones. That kind gesture is beyond any custom/ritual/religion. Period.

Major amends to age old practices happen very slowly. We are all a part of it. The first step is to acknowledge there is a problem, only then a solution can be found. Question them, stop following if it does not make sense, but not at the cost of hurting other’s and their beliefs.

Rape on the OTOH is a hineous crime!

I was questioning her thought process,like she mentioned that while you're sitting in the mandap,you lose the strength to raise your voice or question a thing you don't approve of.One should not surrender how difficult the situation is & should have the fortitude to encounter any infelicitous circumstance.

There had been many incidents where the bride walked away in b/w the marriage and refused to participate in the kanyadaan ritual & vehemently protested against it.

These people do not come from some other planet.🙄

Hamare bich mai se hi to aate hai 😏😏

This was the only thing I was trying to emphasize.Okay,I may be wrong in comparing rape with marriage & I'm achingly repentant for that.

Mera answer

I believe that it's one of the most emotional moment in any marriage-where the father gives, "the apple of his eye",to another man.For every father,no man is ever good enough for his daughter bcoz of the special place his daughter has in his life.This ritual is ripe with deep religious symbolisms.

Even Jews and Xtians give away their daughter in marriage as they walk down the aisle & hand over their daughter's hand to the groom.But,I didn't see any question being raised here by a group of woke intellectuals as is the case with the Hindu traditions.

Kanyadaan is not transfer of possessed thinking daughter as chattel.Hindus consider daughters the reason for progress,progenitor,the preserver of the Kula-the embodiment of laxmi.Rigveda says that,the groom is the embodiment of Vishnu,in accepting the union & promises not to cross teh boundaries of Dharma,Artha & Kama,parents take pride in Kanyadaan,with the blessing साम्राज्ञनी भवः !( Be queenly)

Who uses such exalted status for a mere object that was given away.

Daan is not donation or charity.It simply means giving as a duty.In real sense,kanyadaan is passing the rituals,sanskara,the traditions & all the learning that she receives from her parents' house to her-in-laws & girl taking husband's surname(gotra) & leaving father's.

Their is a shloka in Rigveda,which holds this as Mahadaan among all and is every parents' dream to do this Mahadaan.It is said that,this is a way in which a daughter helps her parents' to free them from the karmabandhan & to remove all the sins not only of this birth but also of past lives & are said to attain Moksha.

In reality, no other marriage ceremony in the world honors & reveres the bride as completely as the Hindu Marriage.To Hindus, Vivaha is not a contract unlike other communities,It is a sacred process to endow the couple with abilities to refine their moral & spiritual traits as householders (Grihastha). It transforms lower desires into higher spiritual goals to attain Moksha together. The bride is not just respected but worshipped as sacred illumined energy throughout the entire ceremony. No other tradition comes close to giving women such prominence & reverence.

Having said this,In today's India(barring some weaker sections) where women are working & educated, divorce is normalised,live-inns are common & single parenting is frequent,women are educated, self-sufficient, financially independent.If a girl who finds herself out of her traditional values,who sees herself at par with males,then she has every right to catechize these rituals (Constructive Criticism) but spewing venom against them.OTOH, those who want to adhere to these rituals with full faith & reason can do so without being mocked and judged.