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Posted: 3 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: CrimeMasterToto


If you find the transcript too long, then watch this 8 min reply from Putin when a reporter asks him on an international podium that what exactly are Russia's intentions. This was 2 months back


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Cugn8JZfk


This is not a justification for invasion, but there is a lot of context here that is missing from the "truth" we are fed by mainstream western media, which often marks this as just some commie propaganda


West MSM is just harping on INVASION word on repeat. No one wants to understand what is happening, why is happening.Find real answers directly from the source rather than propaganda driven MSM.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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To me this is more like giving a message to US/NATO & Ukrainian government to stop messing with Russia. They had enough always making Russians the bad guy while as if they are good .In this conflict the losers are the civilians not these politicians.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: sunflower52

To me this is more like giving a message to US/NATO & Ukrainian government to stop messing with Russia. They had enough always making Russians the bad guy while as if they are good .In this conflict the losers are the civilians not these politicians.

Russia was pressurized enough (for very long time) to give reaction. All these years of sanctions and stopping Russia to prosper wasn't enough for the west. That they were using neighboring countries as tool to isolate Russia. Ukraine govt. were letting it to get used to blackmail Russia. Civilians are suffering while politicians will run away to live elsewhere.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zeal17

Russia was pressurized enough (for very long time) to give reaction. All these years of sanctions and stopping Russia to prosper wasn't enough for the west. That they were using neighboring countries as tool to isolate Russia. Ukraine govt. were letting it to get used to blackmail Russia. Civilians are suffering while politicians will run away to live elsewhere.


Exactly some here are only looking from West view not understanding where Russia is coming from. Now they have enough from the US/NATO & stupid neighbours government who are willing to endanger their civilians for money & what ever false promises they made to them.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Arrey baba I meant speech was directed towards Ukrainians for Ukrainians. Ofcourse he speaks about NATO as well

How is Russia-Ukraine and India-China same thing?


Was India part of China?

Is there such bond between India and China such as the one being shared between Russia and Ukraine?

Is India betraying decades of relationship with China?

Is India joining some military complex which has intentions to invade China?


I spoke about China in the sense of 'retreating after invasion'. Retreating after attacking does not mean it wasn't an attack. that's what I meant.


About bond, clearly, Ukraine does not want anything to do with Russia now, like Pakistan or Bangladesh with India. Should India attack these countries and merge them into itself again? (Not that I have any sympathy for Pak, but it's a different matter). Previous bond jo bhi ho, now Ukraine is a sovereign country.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: sunflower52


Exactly some here are only looking from West view not understanding where Russia is coming from. Now they have enough from the US/NATO & stupid neighbours government who are willing to endanger their civilians for money & what ever false promises they made to them.


How is Ukraine endangering Russia's civilians? If anything, Russia is meddling in Ukraine's affairs by supporting separatists in Sevastopol and Donetsk.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: sunflower52


Exactly some here are only looking from West view not understanding where Russia is coming from. Now they have enough from the US/NATO & stupid neighbours government who are willing to endanger their civilians for money & what ever false promises they made to them.

What has west done to countries like Yemen, Syria ad Iraq etc. Not only West MSM suppresses the truth but misguides the masses.

We cant blame west only, problem is with Ukraine govt. as well which is not only falling for false promises but also forgetting decades of support Russia has provided in its development.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahisa_22


How is Ukraine endangering Russia's civilians? If anything, Russia is meddling in Ukraine's affairs by supporting separatists in Sevastopol and Donetsk.


There are two sides of this story one calls an invasion and other call that there was referendum and people chose to join Russia. Who is telling the truth?

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Posted: 3 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: sunflower52


There are two sides of this story one calls an invasion and other call that there was referendum and people chose to join Russia. Who is telling the truth?


No country recognises Republic of Donetsk and Luhansk apart from each other. What does that tell us?

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22


I spoke about China in the sense of 'retreating after invasion'. Retreating after attacking does not mean it wasn't an attack. that's what I meant.


About bond, clearly, Ukraine does not want anything to do with Russia now, like Pakistan or Bangladesh with India. Should India attack these countries and merge them into itself again? (Not that I have any sympathy for Pak, but it's a different matter). Previous bond jo bhi ho, now Ukraine is a sovereign country.


I will ask the same questions I asked in India-China case for India-Pakistan and India-Bangladesh.

If you can answer those questions in only that case we can compare it to Russia-Ukraine situations. Otherwise they arent comparable.

Not only you but people are hell bent on calling it an attack but when its a Reaction! We cannot talk about Russia reaction without understanding Ukraine actions which led up to this.

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