Udariyaan | Episode Discussion Thread #47 - Page 25

Originally posted by: Shruti_0505

tejang are not as popular as fatejo, but the amount of popularity they got and how a lot of viewers accepted them immediately would definitely not have been expected by the makers.

Fatejo were always the endgame, but they have made the show so boring that it is sometimes a pain to even watch the episodes.

as far as fateh is concerned, I agree with what you are saying, they are rebuilding him, but i still dont agree with forgiving him. Now he feels the pain that tejo went through after seeing him on stage with jasmine. What about the pain tejo went through knowing the person she trusted the most betrayed him? and then he goes on to bad mouth her, then realises he still needs her help professionally and goes begs her to help him?

some might say jasmine betrayed him, but fateh brought that onto himself. he knew jasmine is capable of betrayal. the girl who left him on the wedding day (granted she might have felt cheated) was always capable of betrayal.

fateh migh be changing but that doesnt mean he deserves a complete white wash of all that he did. How to do you decide that now fateh has suffered as much as tejo and now they can get back together?

Also, it might have been much better, if they actually rebuilt tejo as well. Show that she is really moving on and then if fatejo come together and then fall in love again, that would be so much better.

While fateh is being given a nice redemption, tejo is becoming cringe. and now she will know that jasfa never got married and she will support jasmine and will continue the drama with angad.

honestly, if someone like angad exists, I would want him to move on from the mess tejo is in. he deserves someone so much better.

There were a lot of posts about how tejo always gets second hand goods, and how angad is also second hand with a daughter, and all of a sudden the equations are flipped. Angad does not have a daughter, he doesnt want tejo interfering or being a nanny to riya (but she still does what she wants) and now that tejo doesnt even try to move on, she becomes the second hand good.

Tejo doesnt even need to move on romantically with angad, she just needs to move on from fateh. atleast try. the difference between fateh and tejo is that fateh atleast tried to move on. he failed miserably but atleast he tried.

I'll start with a point which you make later, about second hand goods. that's ridiculous and dehumanising. People have a past, history and it doesn't make them second hand. Even if Angad had a daughter, he wouldn't be second hand. That's plain nonsense. Why is anyone concerned with first/second hand? Do you want to fall in love with someone or do you wanna give a virgin's sacrifice.

You do have the option to forgive him. It's not essential. Yeah he caused a great deal of harm to everyone, but in the show as well as in real life, it depends on those who've been hurt whether to accept the apology or not.

Oh Fateh brought EVERYTHING on himself, be it his destruction or redemption. And here's the thing when people say Fateh is being whitewashed. Nope. He's being rebuilt from scratch. White washing means minimising his crimes, not doing anything about his character but then just magically throw fatejo together after a few crying sessions. That would be whitewashing. However, he remembers his infidelity. Everyday he talks to himself about that. T gets flashbacks of both good and bad memories. F's character was flawed way before EMA, and now he's dealing with the core problematic issues his personality has. That's not white washing, that is character development. From a richie rich bratty arrogant asshole, to an actual man, that's the journey. This is why he left his family. Had he stayed there, he wouldn't have grown.

Oh yes, the lack in Tejo's character development is just ughh.

god forbid the way F tried to move on...it'd have been better for everyone had he just kept being devdas in Jasmine's memories. At least T is honest and not leading anyone on.

Originally posted by: bhawanaAVINAfan

Just wanted to share my views after reading the discussion. I hope no one would mind me doing that.

1. Tejang are shown boring because makers want Fatejo to sail. I really disagree with this. Since the exposure episode Tejang are being promoted by channel and PH on every media platform be it their offscreen interviews or print intv or even bts. And they did that because the current track is focused on Angad past n riya as well. Riya is not a sudden addition to story. She was there since start. What makers actually didn't expect was Fatejo will still be audience fav even after Ema or angad entry. Now I wouldn't say karan is to be blamed for trps. He obviously should not be. But the fact that channel did expect a response like anuj Kapadia in Anupama got but Angad it didn't get that. Rather Fateh exposing Jasmin gave new turn to story. - When Anuj came it was clear he loves Anupama and is there to stay. With Angad, even before the first episode aired we had an interview where KVG clearly stated that he has entered to reunite fatejo. How can the trps increase then? Also, Anuj is shown standing up for Anupama and anupama also reciprocates his friendship. Here angad doesnt stand for tejo, he makes her smile, he makes her laugh, but either he doesnt say anything to jasfa or tejo stops him. Also, anupama did not use Anuj, they way they are showing tejo using angad for her benefit. how much did she know angad before the fake engagement, or even now? Tejang had a nice vibe in the first few episodes, even when angad supported tejo when she breaks down during jasfa marriage, but since then it is always been tejo crying and cringe fbs. Also following the storyline of another show is not the best way to go about it. Recebtly in anupama, vanraj lets go of anu so that she can express her love to anuj. so, according to that, fateh should let go tejo cause while tejo doesnt love angad, fateh thinks so. Vanraj anu were divorced a long time back but vanraj was unable to let anu go. similar situation. fateh should let tejo go in true sense and not be hurt or jealous.

2. Regret supporting Tejo.

See the strongest people r the ones who r weakest when they truly fall in love. Tejo didn't needed much time to get over Jass betrayal because she never loved him. But Fateh has been her friend, her biggest pillar of strength and ofcourse her love. When people like tejo (I resonate with her so sharing how I felt) fall in love that happens very rarely because we have set boundaries and not everyone is allowed to come close to us. But when we accept someone who heartedly we only love them no matter what but this doesn't mean we r weak. We just love that way. - strongest people are weakest in love, but if they dont find a way to move on they will break. i understand what you are saying, cause I am similar in thoughts. When i love i love with a passion, but i also have the strength to move on if needed.

3. Why Tejo only have good Fbs

When the person u love has gone from ur life, u remember the good moments only. U crave for that time. U think that when it was all good why wss the sudden change. Yes Fateh is now Jasmin husband according to Tejo but another truth is Fateh is Tejo ex husband and only person whom she loved with her whole existence. And when a person life tejo gets intimate, they r not having sex rather they form a soul to soul connection. Its a divine n pure feeling for them to give urself fully to the person who love. Also Tejo doesn't consider Fateh an equal culprit as Jasmin because she saw his struggle of moving on and she also knows the type of love Fateh does is crazy and when he will know the truth of Jasmin n that she never loved him, he will be more broken than what Tejo is now. For Tejo when she herself got manipulated by her sister, why won't Fateh be. So yes she knows Jasmin is cheating on his feelings and manipulating him to be with her. - there was no sudden change, tejo did not want to see the changes, and when she started to see some changes, the shooting incident happened and everything was forgotten. tejo has seen fateh try to move on, but he was also the one who made promises to her during the wedding. agreed he was not in his senses but he id not a kid to not realise what marriage means. When ema happened, I blamed tejo as well for not seeing the signs and for not using her brains at times, but fateh and jasmine share equal blame. for me, fateh shares a larger part of the blame because he knew that tejo had started loving him and she expressed it as well and then he used her for sex. he was hormone driven that night. he already had thoughts of jasmine and in this case he should have controlled himself and if he could not, then he shares a lot of the blame for betraying tejo. jasmine didnt ask him to sleep with tejo. fateh was in his senses when he decided to cheat on his wife. agreed, tejo was manipulated by jasmine, but fateh knew that jasmine was manipulating everyone. he saw how she broke her engagement with gippy, how she manipulated tejo when fateh bought perfume for tejo etc. FATEH KNEW JASMINE WAS MANIPULATING THE SITUATION, TEJO DID NOT.

Just the last bit. Udaariyan has always been a lovestory of Fatejo since day 1 and it's same now. It had always been shown that their connection n relationship is much above anything. Yes Fateh did a mistake rather a sin but that also a phase in Fatejo lovestory. One phase was jasfa which brought them together to fall in love and now another phase is tejang which has made Fateh realize his love. He always loved Tejo but realization happened slowly n bit late. - I disagree. He didnt love tejo when he married her, he didnt love her during the night out, he didnt love her when he betrayed her, he didnt love her when he blamed her for an affair with his best friend, he didnt love her when he divorced her, he didnt love her when he bad mouthed her, he didnt love her when he blamed her for jasfa leaving home, he didnt love her. he cared for tejo. Now he is sad to let her go, he is hurt seeing tejo with angad, but when exactly did he start loving tejo? I still dont understand that. But that is how the story is. Insaan jo chhata h vo uske liye sahi ho Yeh zaruri nhi but God will make sure what is best for the person is what he gets.

Be it jasfa fans or tejang fans, makers never gave u hope in respect to the story, they have always been clear. Even the first intv that Karan gave he clearly mentioned he is extended cameo n in recent press con also he said that hero heroine toh set h mein toh bas drama add karne aaya hun. - thank God that there was no hope for tejang, cause then another character would have been spoiled. atleast here in my mind angad is a nice person.

I hope no one gets offended by my views. Its with all respect and regards.

After writing all this, I realised that I was ranting. My views are to do with how frustrated i am with the show and nothing to do with what you wrote. Absolutely no offense to you. I just didnt realise how much I ranted...

Originally posted by: janecastle

Let's not generalize. Some of just watch this crap just to troll and bash (at least I do). 😆 I watch this crap when I have lot of time to waste. Also it is fun to discuss with people here.

No, I am not generalising. Infact I agree with you. I am also at the same point! I don't like anything about this show, I don't even watch it anymore. I just love trolling the show now, after the expose episode watched Fateh's scenes were good but that also lasted two episodes. But once you detach yourself from such a crap story it's easier to troll and bash every character. But I am saying others to don't get so attached to it coz I was there once and it's frustrating when things doesn't go our way. Makers know their audiences pulse and they are delivering exactly what sells.. Don't give so much deep thoughts and do not expect moral responsibility and everything from a TV show, if they had moral responsibility they wouldn't have done the whole EMA track in the first place. It's an Indian daily soap and you don't expect any better. Show with decent, progressive story doesn't sell.

Originally posted by: Bluekohl

I'll start with a point which you make later, about second hand goods. that's ridiculous and dehumanising. People have a past, history and it doesn't make them second hand. Even if Angad had a daughter, he wouldn't be second hand. That's plain nonsense. Why is anyone concerned with first/second hand? Do you want to fall in love with someone or do you wanna give a virgin's sacrifice. - i agree with you and thats exactly why I made this point.

You do have the option to forgive him. It's not essential. Yeah he caused a great deal of harm to everyone, but in the show as well as in real life, it depends on those who've been hurt whether to accept the apology or not.

Oh Fateh brought EVERYTHING on himself, be it his destruction or redemption. And here's the thing when people say Fateh is being whitewashed. Nope. He's being rebuilt from scratch. White washing means minimising his crimes, not doing anything about his character but then just magically throw fatejo together after a few crying sessions. That would be whitewashing. However, he remembers his infidelity. Everyday he talks to himself about that. T gets flashbacks of both good and bad memories. F's character was flawed way before EMA, and now he's dealing with the core problematic issues his personality has. That's not white washing, that is character development. From a richie rich bratty arrogant asshole, to an actual man, that's the journey. This is why he left his family. Had he stayed there, he wouldn't have grown.

Oh yes, the lack in Tejo's character development is just ughh.

god forbid the way F tried to move on...it'd have been better for everyone had he just kept being devdas in Jasmine's memories. At least T is honest and not leading anyone on.

The thing about the family is that once they know he went through hardship and left jasmine, they will instantly forgive him. everything will be brushed under the carpet, not that it is not already.

also, while fateh is growing as a person, I guess the lack of development in tejo's character and too much ss to jasmine is stopping me from connecting with fateh.

fateh remembers his betrayal but somehow I am unable to sympathise with him. maybe cause he was the only one whom tejo actually trusted and shared everything with. she didnt share her anger and pain at jass betrayal with anyone in her family, but she shared it with fateh. Also, had the hardship track been a little more believable it would be better. Fine fateh did not take any money from his parents, and jasmine emptied his wallet, but he doesnt have even 50 rs for a meal is a bit too much.

at this point, honestly, he could drop off dead and i wouldnt care.

also, i dont remember tejo getting fb of any bad moments.

Lot of things I disagree but definitely agree that Udaariyan is frustrating no matter which Fandom u belongs to. They just frustrate you to another level.

Also I have always been very clear that Tejo is not Anupama but she is already a well established independent woman with lot of career opportunities and freedom to take decisions. I said same when people on twitter compare angad and Anuj. That Anupama needed anuj in her journey but Tejo doesn't Angad. He is good addition to her life but not important the way Anuj is for Anupama. So yes that's channel mistake to expect similar response for Angad. Neither we can compare vanraj n fateh in any way. Fateh has been hero since day 1 n vanraj has been the villain.

Also anyone bashing Tejo are just pretending to be caring about her self respect. For example if it was a real person even then it's nobody else's but their responsibility to take care of their own dignity and self respect. It's just fans who are upset because she's not reciprocating to Angad's feelings, she's not loving him back, she's still in love with her first love. They are upset because the show isn't going their convinient way which is TejAng ship. See, I don't have any problem with people shipping TejAng, practically their pair makes sense but bashing Tejo's character just because she is not in love with a him? That doesn't make sense to me.

You don't even know yet, let makers show their story first. Everyone just needs a reason to start bashing Tejo, ruk jao bhai thodi. Kar legi woh Angad Maan se shaddi tumhari khusi k lie. What else she's there in the show, shaddi hi toh karti rehni hain use!

Anyway, my point is these fans on twitter care a damn about Tejo, they only care about their ship! Yes, Tejo's character is pretty annoying sometimes because of her mahanta but she DOESN'T deserve any kind of hate or bad words!

Originally posted by: Lovelydutt

No they didn't ruin Isha's character so that was no way unfair to her, because her character was supposed to become the vamp because makers can't do any better. A vamp is needed to make the FL look more mahan. Initially even we felt like Fateh's character got ruined because of TRP but later on we could see that everything was planned by makers from the beginning. All of it was supposed to happen, similarly if a new male was supposed to become a new lead and that was a part of the story since beginning that would have also been fair. But it doesn't look like it with the current scenario. So why would they suddenly promote KVG to be the lead when Ankit is!! That would have ofcourse been unfair. Atleast that's what I feel and ofcourse everyone has the right to hope for a new ML if they want.

Where was it mentioned that Jasmine was supposed to be a vamp. In every articles, every IV, it was said that the story is about three leads. Jasmine was made a vamp for TRP just like Fateh's character was spoiled. Otherwise she was a positive FL just like Tejo. Now Fateh is getting a redemption angle (and Ankit a chance to perform so well) while Jasmine is not. Isha and her fans are the ones who got cheated the most.

Originally posted by: chiapudding

There is a small part of me that feels that there is something else planned than what most viewers are sort of expecting. I think at the party, if they all come face to face, Jasfa will be forced to pretend to be a happy couple and that will be the final trigger for Tejo to start moving on. The betrayal and hurt FBs are being saved for later (at least that's my fervent hope) And if that doesn't happen, I hope KVG leaves soon. Angad is too good a guy to get caught up in this disgusting menage a trois.

i feel that tejang will be forced to act so that jasmine can manipulate the situation adn try to get fateh back. adn that might be the trigger for tejo to move on

Originally posted by: Lovelydutt

Also everyone saying Tejo is only remembering the good moments, I would like to take a moment to get back to the Jas drama, when it got decraled that FaTejo marriage wasn't legal Tejo broke down and said this that she anyway was moving on, she just wanted to live the rest of her lives with the good memories spent with Fateh and bhagwan ne woh bhi chin liya!! There's nothing wrong if she wants to only remember the good moments both of them have spent, it's a choice a person makes! And she certainly has the RIGHT to make a choice for herself as long as that's not harming anyone.

yeah, but the new fbs that are being shown and how they are linked to tejang is what is making it difficult to digest.

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

https://www.indiaforums.com/article/zain-imam-reem-shaikh-and-akshit-sukhija-to-star-in-colors-new-show-fanaa_182182

Zain is back finally in ITV

I will give it a try for Zain and Reem. Gul always gets her casting right.