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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: BettyA1


Bold - Thank you for saying that

And what did MG say? Human life has no value in our country anyway and that whole family and MG in particular behaves like zameendars and treats people like her subjects


How can they put common people's lives in danger like that

If you talk about it you hear arguments like women are being raped everyday in India, shoukd men be killed, pounded too...


On being told that a woman was attacked,mauled and eaten by a pack of feral dogs in coastal Kerala, MG's response was that "She must have been carrying meat with her." Brings to mind Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake" quote. And this was not a lone incident either. The dogs occasionally attack the odd child too. But the elite truly don't have the idea of how the common man lives.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ranjali

Plants do not have pain receptors, nerves or a brain.


Ok, I check it on Britannica. That's right. Proud to be vegetarian.


The Almighty has provided food to human beings in various forms. So whatever is happening or whatever people are eating, that's right.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ranjali

Idk why you took my comment personally. First of all I am not John’s fan or anything. I haven’t seen any of his recent movies except parmanu. But I do know that he has been doing alot for animal welfare & he is doing so because he cares. People who care about animals are very sensitive. I know many such people who appear to be strong from outside but cry and just can’t see an animal in pain. If I was there on hot seat in kbc and the same video was played I would have cried too. Nowadays if someone is having an emotional moment people jump in n call that person fake. Everybody is not fake. There’s no rule men can’t cry/actor can’t cry etc…..


I took it personally because you said something rude about those who found the clip 'fake' and I'm one of them so....


What does it have to do with John being a man? I'd have said the same thing if it was a woman in his place. My comment was mostly about the show and it's presentation. Reality shows appeal to the emotional side of the audience ,they sensationalise things for ratings. It's not uncommon for actors to play it up a bit on such shows and that doesn't necessarily mean they're faking it in their real lives . In this clip the reel that was shown was nothing compared to the terrible things that you actually see at a shelter. If you've been going to some for a while, like John has, you've seen worse. Now if John cries like that every time he sees the slightest sign of animal abuse he has every right to, it's not in my place to police other people's emotions but the makers didn't edit it out when he broke down, they circled him and zoomed into him in a voyeuristic way. Just before he starts crying there's a pause and the sound of wind blowing like it's Kyunki saas bhi bahu thi or Devdas. Really ? The way it was edited ..with the maudlin background music and all that , was disgusting and it feels like the cause is being exploited by KBC .


Yes people can be sensitive about cruelty to animals. I'm one of them. I'm the steely 'strong' type who doesn't cry even at a funeral but I do tear up when I see animals in agony. So I'd obviously not judge anyone for being sensitive to pics or videos of abused animals. But my other problem with the clip is that it plays into this stereotype that all those of us who talk about animal rights are overcome by emotions. That we are these compassionate people who feel too much for animals. While that's true...is that it? Like you ,I've been vegetarian for years, I gave up meat ,fish and eggs when I was around 11. I get shit from relatives and friends about this. From name calling to provocation. And the idea behind all the teasing is that I'm this 'kind' person who is emotional about animals and can't help but avoid meat. Even from people who somewhat understand it , you get an "Aw' now and then. In the clip John says "Main jaanwaron se pyaar karta hoon, main rone lagta hoon" and Amitabh responds with an "Oh " in a very patronising way like he'd talk to his granddaughter. Do we talk about animal rights because we are these compassionate kind people who are generous enough to care about animals or is it mainly because we acknowledge the fact that animals are very much a part of this planet and we humans have no right to abuse them or violate their boundaries whether we feel for them or not? That we have no right to exploit the power we have over them? Reducing the problem of animal abuse to compassion and emotions is a bit like men saying "I believe in women's rights, I respect women, they're somebody's mother or daughter ". You say, wait a minute..women don't need your "respect" , women need you to stay in your place and not violate their space or their rights ,;women don't need your generosity. It's the same with animal rights, it's not merely an emotional issue, it's about acknowledging reality and understanding our responsibilities and limits as a species regardless of whether we love animals or not. It's very important to focus on that because a lot of the abuse people put animals through comes from the idea that animals have been put on this planet to make things better for humans and to serve them, and that man has some God given right over animals which makes it's okay to treat them as objects.

Again I'm not in any way putting down anyone who felt emotional after watching it , I just don't like the way it was presented. But yeah ,as I said before it's nice that he brought it up , I'm glad that he did.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: capricornrcks


On being told that a woman was attacked,mauled and eaten by a pack of feral dogs in coastal Kerala, MG's response was that "She must have been carrying meat with her." Brings to mind Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake" quote. And this was not a lone incident either. The dogs occasionally attack the odd child too. But the elite truly don't have the idea of how the common man lives.


That was definitely an insensitive comment by Maneka. There really is a street dog menace in Kerala. I've been lunged at and chased by dogs many times. I know people who were bitten. I don't drive , I walk to places when I'm not taking public transport ,so very much at risk in case a dog feels like mauling me. But ...for every stray dog that bites someone without provocation, there's another dog that gets abused by people for no reason. Grown men tying them to vehicles and driving away...people shoving shards of glass into their anuses, taping their snouts or leaving them to drown after tying their legs together. And ofcourse there's the usual kicking stone throwing and beating. I'm all for getting them neutered or euthanised but when they're around you have to feed them. It's not nice to have starving creatures around but more importantly in this case it's counter intuitive to have packs of hungry dogs roaming the streets without food and water. I've gotten into so much trouble with people in the neighbourhood for feeding them. The excuse is that it "makes things worse". When they're not fed, all they get is little pieces of meat and bone from waste bins , just enough to tickle their appetite and instincts but never enough to fill them . Most of the people who have a problem with feeding them are ones who never walk down the street even to get anything from the store on the other side.

Here they placed cattle grid at the entrance of the street because people felt cow dung ruins the look of the street. There's a hill on the other side. Cows from this side used to graze there. Now they can't. So they walk to the highway and crowd the road, causing traffic issues.

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