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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: inlieu

My main point is that she doesn't need defending at all if she's not at fault. And even if she's making mistakes as human, as per her character flaws, so what? That's a good thing to show her flaws and how she learns from her mistakes and grows. We've seen too many super perfect FLs and they've steered clear of making Pallavi like that, which is quite refreshing.

As for those who hate the character, well that's their call. We can't change that, and defending Pallavi repeatedly every time such people criticize her is only going to make them hate her more. That's just how some of these people think.

There are others who are neutral to her character too by the way, who don't love or hate her, but those people unfortunately get grouped in with people who hate her.

I understand your point about a love story needing both characters (unless it's meant to be a one-sided loves story, which MHRW isn't), and I agree with that, but the fact is that a lot of people who watch a story for specific characters or arcs. Each person takes something different from the show and has their own experiences.

I personally don't see this as a "love story" per se, but more of a story about love in many forms, not just between the leads but also with other characters on the show: between parents and children, siblings, extended families, non-blood ties, etc.

First thing I feel is if there is negativity (in this forum people call it constructive criticism and I absolutely agree , every member tends to think different and actually its criticism in disguise of bashing) somewhere it should be balanced by positivity. And if I can play a role in eliminating negativity, why wont I?. I guess everyone who posted in this topic feels the same.

You too replied in this topic because somewhere you felt that things discussed here are not according to what you think .

Same goes for everyone!.

If he/ she thinks that their opinion can calm things down, they are going to post their opinion( in this case - defending).

Thats all I wanted to say.

Btw I express gratitude for putting forth a different perspective from what my is because next time I introspect any situation , I will definitely try to implement it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: inlieu

My main point is that she doesn't need defending at all if she's not at fault. And even if she's making mistakes as human, as per her character flaws, so what? That's a good thing to show her flaws and how she learns from her mistakes and grows. We've seen too many super perfect FLs and they've steered clear of making Pallavi like that, which is quite refreshing.

As for those who hate the character, well that's their call. We can't change that, and defending Pallavi repeatedly every time such people criticize her is only going to make them hate her more. That's just how some of these people think.

There are others who are neutral to her character too by the way, who don't love or hate her, but those people unfortunately get grouped in with people who hate her.

I understand your point about a love story needing both characters (unless it's meant to be a one-sided loves story, which MHRW isn't), and I agree with that, but the fact is that a lot of people who watch a story for specific characters or arcs. Each person takes something different from the show and has their own experiences.

I personally don't see this as a "love story" per se, but more of a story about love in many forms, not just between the leads but also with other characters on the show: between parents and children, siblings, extended families, non-blood ties, etc.


Problem is not criticism , problem is people have resorted to sl*t shaming and victim blaming in large numbers quite carelessly here and on SM, when they was no fault of hers at all, and even if she made some foolish mistakes, she didn’t deserve that level of hatred. Some even pointed out need of Mandaar assaulting Pallavi to teach her a lesson/ open her eyes. Which is not cool imo.




Even now Raghav (though true to his character) is making few mistakes, yet people see it as Karma when in reality her consent wasn’t there at all in whatever Mandaar did.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

Insecurity in relationship is not cool at all . Pallavi never made him feel insecure, she always actively assured him , it’s his own issues that fester fear of losing Pallavi in him.

Quite a shame if secure partner turns insecure.

Raghav had first earned Pallavi’s trust and not love . I would say it’d be big loss for him if he loses it now because of his impulsive actions .

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: DivyaaaV


She will


today she asked Raghav and I was happy, she did exercise her rights

she didn't do anything wrong! Raghav is the wrong one here today! That is what the makers wanted to show


but again Pallavi is not the type to really lash out at someone, she will question Raghav and she will feel bad due to his anger, ignorance, and harsh words


and she will tolerate it for some time, but I'm guessing she will think her husband is happier with his ex


and she will back away, she might feel that Raghav is happier with Esha and she will let him go because she loves him and she would want him to be happy


THEN raghav will realize his mistake, him pushing her away, hiding things from her, and ultimately breaking her trust

I don't think Pallavi will ever accuse Raghav of breaking her heart, but she will lose her trust on him due to the circumstances, but she will forever love him, so much that she can become Mahaan and let him go

Breaking her trust and her backing away should happen ASAP and I hope this time she doesn’t forgive him easily no matter what the circumstances are . As it is I found Raghav quite conflicted when his ex comes into the picture . His feelings must’ve been very strong for her in the past and even now bcoz as soon as he spotted her he forgot how he was begging for Pallavis life few days ago and how he brought her back from the dead . He also forgot Mandar incident where Pallavi was forcefully separated from him and he was devastated during that time without her . Anyway I

Hope whatever he’s doing now there will be a stronger redemption track to bring her back to her life

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Posted: 4 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: Owia

Bold- he knows that esha still harbours feelings for him and even then he and Esha under the same roof is really not acceptable.

I support him for rethinking about Esha stepping back because there is only one room left and due to the violence outside.

@Bold: exactly my point…sharing room with his ex itself is wrong and after knowing she still feels for him will be like leading/ encouraging her…this is unfair to both Pallavi and Esha…I hope he doesn’t stay in the room…

But what bothers me is his lies….

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Posted: 4 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

Insecurity in relationship is not cool at all . Pallavi never made him feel insecure, she always actively assured him , it’s his own issues that fester fear of losing Pallavi in him.

Quite a shame if secure partner turns insecure.

Raghav had first earned Pallavi’s trust and not love . I would say it’d be big loss for him if he loses it now because of his impulsive actions .

She never made him feel insecure...it was him who always felt insecure even when she assured him with her words and actions probably due to his past issues but we cant always give him a free pass for his past... Like that girl could take a bullet for you but will never leave you and if you still have doubts then Idk what will make you secure

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu1975

No offense intended..But what payback does she deserve…lies, rude behavior, spending time with ex in the same room, blowing her wounds…

Pallavi took a bullet for him and faced near death because of his stupidity and stubbornness…what else should she do to prove that he is her priority…Raghav lying to her is wrong period…there is no two way to it…

Pallavi never once lied to Raghav about her intentions towards Mandar..in fact she came clean on where she stands…but Raghav still felt insecure like hell…but now he is lying to her about his ex from the word go after telling her how invested he was in his past relationship and expects his wife to feel secure and also gets annoyed with her…how hypocritical of him to do that…it’s like chor kothwaal to daate….

I defended him for not able to move past his first relationship coz of bitterness because that’s exactly people feel and react when they are abandoned in such a disturbing way..

I want Pallavi to rip him off, if he lies about the hotel kand…Raghav was no way considerate to her while she was showing humanity to Mandar so why should Raghav be shown any mercy or understanding from Pallavi either…I want her to show him the mirror and tell him that he is showing much much more humanity towards his Ex than Pallavi ever showed to Mandar and still he has the audacity to expect her to be understanding while he had not shown an iota of maturity in understanding her actions in the past…

Pallavi was wrong too in not setting her priorities right as a wife, ignoring Raghav’s insecurities and being completely daft towards Mandar’s intent & behavior but Raghav is being much worse here..his constant lies to Pallavi cannot be justified in anyways and it’s more like emotional infidelity …No Pallavi doesn’t deserve this especially after all that she has done to him…she doesn’t have to prove anything in this relationship…it’s He who should be working on this relationship now…

To pallavi “step back girl…it’s his time to prove”…

And yeah call me old school but it’s completely unethical for Raghav to share room with his Ex after knowing that she has feelings for him…I hope they don’t show him doing that…it is not acceptable at all…if this happens I want Pallavi to leave him…

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As for him

Sharing room with his ex that’s there in the Precap right ? So yeah it’s gonna happen . I’m not sure if he’s going to leave after his ex proposed to him and hugged him which is something he should do right away but I feel he’s going to stay there with the excuse of not leaving her alone in the room in this state kind . Either way he’s going to share room with her for sure . I really really want Sunny to expose him big time should he decide to keep

This one a secret too from Pallavi and YE she’s cheating on her emotionally already

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Posted: 4 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: inlieu

I understand your point about a love story needing both characters (unless it's meant to be a one-sided loves story, which MHRW isn't), and I agree with that, but the fact is that a lot of people who watch a story for specific characters or arcs. Each person takes something different from the show and has their own experiences.

I personally don't see this as a "love story" per se, but more of a story about love in many forms, not just between the leads but also with other characters on the show: between parents and children, siblings, extended families, non-blood ties, etc.

Sorry couldnt resist replying to this one.😂
I think the writers have made it clear that this story of raghav and pallavi is one where raghav is a project and pallavi is a fixer.. looking back i think the writers had only this theme in mind for raghav and pallavi.. with pallavi’s dialogues of badal gaye since after the marriage track makes so much more sense from the writers pov of their said theme.. raghav becoming a version of raghav that pallavi likes him to be like and raghav after all the resistance and hurting and all the works ends up becoming what pallavi wants him to be.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Respectfully, I do think its very necessary to defend her and that too all the time. Though her character stands strong on its own, people misjudged her all the time in every track. Even if she is breathing, people will have problem. So, its very much needed to justify everything to everyone.


I feel if Pallavi doesn't need defenders then same goes with Raghav. The writers crafted his character in a specific way and thats what will come out on screen. He is also a strong character. His character stands strong on its own, with no need to justify anything to anyone.


I don't mean to offend anyone by writing all this. Just sharing my perspective. This forum is a space for freedom of debate, discussions, etc. so I respect everyone's wish to write their piece.


Originally posted by: inlieu

Respectfully, I don't understand the need to defend her at all. Her character stands strong on its own, with no need to justify anything to anyone. The writers crafted her character in a specific way and that's what will come out on screen. If people find faults with her (or any other character, really) because of their perspectives then it's because they interpret the scenes in their own way.

I feel as if too often on this forum when people point out character flaws that they perceive, they end up being bombarded by posts defending the character. It should be like water off a duck's back for someone like her character to not pay heed to what others say.

Pallavi is written as a strong FL. She doesn't need defenders, not on the show and not here. My opinion is that a person's actions or thoughts only need to be defended or justified if there's something lacking. If she needs to be defended then that undermines all she stands for and opens the way to more criticism when her flaws are on display deliberately because of the writers' choice and her defenders do not criticize her for them. That's how I see it.

I don't mean to offend anyone by writing all this. Just sharing my perspective. This forum is a space for freedom of debate, discussions, etc. so I respect everyone's wish to write their piece.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lightoflife

She never made him feel insecure...it was him who always felt insecure even when she assured him with her words and actions probably due to his past issues but we cant always give him a free pass for his past... Like that girl could take a bullet for you but will never leave you and if you still have doubts then Idk what will make you secure

@Bold: That’s my point to…his lies show that he doesn’t feel secure of his relationship with Pallavi…that’s completely unfair to her and he has no reason whatsoever to feel that way…she has sealed it with her actions…banda ab kab manegaa, after her death…

Him not wanting to reveal Esha feeling for him to Pallavi is coming across as infidelity, especially when Pallavi has not given any reasons to feel insecure in their relationship…

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