I am appalled! - Page 5

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Ok I think we differ drastically on V-P dynamics. 😃 I understand where you are coming from. I too loathe Virat's muteness and unwanted kindness shown to her, especially because Sai is getting effected too much. But the same Virat did stood by Sai during entire birthday episode, he completely lost it on Pakhi. (Dont say it is because his birthday plans will get spoiled) He was worried Pakhi is taking it on Sai physically. On the very night, he shut pakhi up, independent of how Sai responded to him. Yes I agree, the instances are less, and only when they aggravate too much. But what I want you to look at is his responses to her privately. He was always curt in his reponses. Yes he falls back to behaving like normal with her in front of people. Which is very annoying. He becomes too chivalrous to save her honor. Which is not needed. May be Sai is getting confused with this same behavior. What I am saying is, he is making this mistake but it is forced response towards her, not natural one. Natural one is when they are alone. He loathes her. He has no respect for her. He is just bearing her.

The ganging up with Pakhi to insult Sai is not deliberate too. In the sense he is not wantedly siding with Pakhi, knowing that Sai will hurt. When Pakhi uses reverse psychology in front of them saying sai is not understanding him, he agrees to that truth!.

Can Pakhi dare to call his love as brotherly love in front of them, NO..who knows he would slap her. She will never utter any words in front of them that really puts off Virat or she gets exposed. It is pakhi's manipulativeness that forces him to react to her in a favorable way in front of Sai. HE IS AS MUCH VICTIM TO PAKHI AS SAI. He just could not read her.

I would like to disagree here and wait for the moment he flips. He already flipped, just that he is not showing openly.

Thanks for your patient replies. I agree to all the points about his behavior expect this. Please think in this way and see if it makes sense

About Birthday, It took him to hurt Sai physically to be angry on her and not the normal abuse and verbal harassment that she is meted on by Pakhi..That was the least he should be doing there...And next day, He went on to apologise for organizing Sai's birthday, since that made Pakhi upset..What was the point there again?

See nothing is deliberate, but then is harmful and not right.. He should be the first one to understand insecurities since he was insecure at the mention of a boy's name from his wife. He could not even believe Sai when she spoke about being just friends with Aniket... And he fails to see what his indulgence with Pakhi does to her, what him comparing her with Pakhi does to her, what him reprimanding her for talking brashly with Pakhi, while she continues to insult her does to her.. And after all this he complains that Sai does not understand him..and that too Sai does not even know what she speaks about her to Virat, how much she hates her, she does not know Virat knows she hates her... Even today he sat with the woman who called Sai a Grahan in her life, to hear her talk nonsense about Sai when she is on her death bed, and also discuss Sai does not understand him...All this when she is dying...what would she do when she is fit and fine?

@bold But pakhi can call Sai to be khudgarz and a manipulative woman who plays with Devi's mind and he would agree.. Calling brotherly love is anyway atrocious..

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

About Birthday, It took him to hurt Sai physically to be angry on her and not the normal abuse and verbal harassment that she is meted on by Pakhi..That was the least he should be doing there...And next day, He went on to apologise for organizing Sai's birthday, since that made Pakhi upset..What was the point there again?

I think he apologized for his behaviour outside their room no? sorry I understood that way. not for the birthday.

See nothing is deliberate, but then is harmful and not right.. He should be the first one to understand insecurities since he was insecure at the mention of a boy's name from his wife. He could not even believe Sai when she spoke about being just friends with Aniket... And he fails to see what his indulgence with Pakhi does to her, what him comparing her with Pakhi does to her, what him reprimanding her for talking brashly with Pakhi, while she continues to insult her does to her.. And after all this he complains that Sai does not understand him..and that too Sai does not even know what she speaks about her to Virat, how much she hates her, she does not know Virat knows she hates her... Even today he sat with the woman who called Sai a Grahan in her life, to hear her talk nonsense about Sai when she is on her death bed, and also discuss Sai does not understand him...All this when she is dying...what would she do when she is fit and fine?

He was too broken yaar. When he said, he was breaking inside, I could only see him going through that. Thats why he did not even respond for long time when samrat came there. He is too broken to think anything else. I agree, after this scene I do want to see and understand whether he is seeking emotional support from her. But I cant get myself to see it, i am very objective here. He would have done that with any one, even sai's friend who denied him to meet sai.

@bold But pakhi can call Sai to be khudgarz and a manipulative woman who plays with Devi's mind and he would agree.. Calling brotherly love is anyway atrocious..

I would say he did not refute, but that does not mean he agreed. He is the one who said Sai is 24 carat gold. Either that is wrong or he changed his opinion on Sai, which I think did not happen.

Asmi, my responses in blue yaar.

I see his pain yaar. He is making mistakes one after the other, but it is not deliberate. He is responding to the situations independent of Pakhi. Pakhi doesnt matter to him.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Asmi, my responses in blue yaar.

I see his pain yaar. He is making mistakes one after the other, but it is not deliberate. He is responding to the situations independent of Pakhi. Pakhi doesnt matter to him.

See its the same thing, Sai has too many times, said aapne naa bhi toh nahi kaha, when he said main kab haan kaha, about calling her characterless.....its perceived that way Usually when one does not deny something that he is not denying it, it certainly means he agrees...Its very important to deny, more important than agreeing...Because when you dont deny something, you agree there...

..On Birthday , No it was not about talking rudely..he sai, infront of the family tum mujhse isiliye naaraz ho na ki maine Sai ka birthday manaya...

Lets see how it goes! I am happy to stay with this opinion 😃

All Virat needs to do is consciously avoid her. Especially in front of Sai who is deeply affected by it. Once he does that, all the problems will be solved. Also I agree on the reverse psychology part.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Ok I think we differ drastically on V-P dynamics. 😃 I understand where you are coming from. I too loathe Virat's muteness and unwanted kindness shown to her, especially because Sai is getting effected too much. But the same Virat did stood by Sai during entire birthday episode, he completely lost it on Pakhi. (Dont say it is because his birthday plans will get spoiled) He was worried Pakhi is taking it on Sai physically. On the very night, he shut pakhi up, independent of how Sai responded to him. Yes I agree, the instances are less, and only when they aggravate too much. But what I want you to look at is his responses to her privately. He was always curt in his reponses. Yes he falls back to behaving like normal with her in front of people. Which is very annoying. He becomes too chivalrous to save her honor. Which is not needed. May be Sai is getting confused with this same behavior. What I am saying is, he is making this mistake but it is forced response towards her, not natural one. Natural one is when they are alone. He loathes her. He has no respect for her. He is just bearing her.

The ganging up with Pakhi to insult Sai is not deliberate too. In the sense he is not wantedly siding with Pakhi, knowing that Sai will hurt. When Pakhi uses reverse psychology in front of them saying sai is not understanding him, he agrees to that truth!.

Can Pakhi dare to call his love as brotherly love in front of them, NO..who knows he would slap her. She will never utter any words in front of them that really puts off Virat or she gets exposed. It is pakhi's manipulativeness that forces him to react to her in a favorable way in front of Sai. HE IS AS MUCH VICTIM TO PAKHI AS SAI. He just could not read her.

I would like to disagree here and wait for the moment he flips. He already flipped, just that he is not showing openly.

Thanks for your patient replies. I agree to all the points about his behavior expect this. Please think in this way and see if it makes sense

I think Virat is the last person to be manipulated.

We saw him inftont of the DIG.

He knows when to say what!

If the DIG felt from Virat's words that he was questioning how to do his job....

If he can put his stance clearly there - then why not in the area due to which he is seeking the transfer in the first place?

It's another thing that he wants to saunter about his home with his head in the sand when it comes to his wife and his woh.🤢

How many more different acts, word's and affirmations does he need from his woh about what place he has in her life and how she sees Sai?

Someone, whom we can count on one hand, that many times has stood for his wife, whilst we'd loose count of the number of times he stands side by side with his woh.... his wife is humiliated on a daily basis by his woh and family and on a nightly basis by his woh ... BUT who is wrong, who doesn't understand, who is childish, who doesn't know the meaning of living amongst family 😵, who doesn't understand the value, care and affection of family, who is immature, who makes a mountain out of molehills, who twists everything to suit their purpose - basically who has the courage and honesty to call a spade - Sai Joshi!

If ganging up with Pakhi isn't deliberate- why doesn't he keep his unwarranted views to himself.

Maybe I would've given him the benefit of doubt - but seeing the way he couldn't stop her sprouting crap infront of Devi, his own sister - and we're to believe that man isn't deliberately siding with his woh?

He isn't a victim to Pakhi. She feeds his male ego. Which thankfully Sai doesn't stoke, but gives it a good thrashing!😆

From what I've heard of KD he doesn't flip. In turn he might write in his will to bury him next to his Woh, so they can hold hands down there too !😆😆😆

PS @ sadiltl - I was just getting all that off my chest 🤣I had more to add but builders kept disturbing so kept loosing my flow of thoughts 😆

I thought the worst part of PK's entire dialogue was when she told Virat that he has other people in his life other than Sai. That, to me, was the most vile thing she said given the circumstances.

On the handholding he clearly should not have done it, but I think he did it as part of his complete breaking down and desperation over what happened to Sai. I think it is telling his dialogues reinforced this to me, when he said "if you really want to do something for me", but importantly told her to pray with "pure and/or true heart", which signalled to me that he has not forgotten or is not unaware of the hate PK has in her heart for Sai.

Originally posted by: Sofna

PS @ sadiltl - I was just getting all that off my chest 🤣I had more to add but builders kept disturbing so kept loosing my flow of thoughts 😆

Thats ok. sometimes what Virat does pisses you off. But I cant get away from his pain and troll him. 😒 I imagine him being sucked by quicksand that is his past!

You know all you guys talk about domestic abuse and all but a small part of me (I know I am wrong here, sorry), wants a nice cute slap pasted on those rosy cheeks of Patralekha. The one that gives those cheeks a colour of blush that no beauty parlour can give. 🙈