Misogyny & Clichés - Page 2

Originally posted by: navk

Agree with you,

First of all I am not a fan of manhandling and also talking rudely in any relationship, I am not taking anyone ' side but for me how shiva talks with raavi sometimes is disrespecting I mean talk nicely with reach other atleast in front of other people , secondly raavi coming back even for dhara I am not digesting it dude have some self respect I mean he literally made whole chaos in front of whole city , you can't push your wife even in anger and thirdly I don't get the concept that how raavi gonna understand shiva when he won't speak I mean you can't read other people 's mind . 🤔

And the family uff they all need serious counseling like how not to get involved in the matters unnecessarily 🙄

I feel like the court should make Shiva and Raavi spend some time in some kind of a couple's counseling retreat where it's just the two of them and the rest of the bugs stay home. Alone, they need to figure out how to understand each other better and learn how to respect each other. Love is important but love without respect is worthless and as of right now, both are losing respect for one another.

Originally posted by: EuphoricDamsel.

I know it's kinda annoying. I mean I've always felt love dwindles with time but respect is something taht should be ABSOLUTELY there between two people in a marriage. There was none here. But Suman has no right to go ahead and keep taunting Raavi left-right-center. The way she said 'Tu aurat hokr smj nhi payi Ki Dev tujhse pyar nhi krta' DUUUDEEE Dev said YES for the alliance. He didn't have to say yes and go ahead with it if he didn't want to.

Even Dhara legit takes Shiva's side and refuses to listen to her every freaking time. Suman is shown as typical Saas but she feels she's a mom to all of her Bahus. I have absolutely never felt so. 😕

That's exactly what I said! I wanted to slap Suman so hard when I heard it and the great Bhabhi just stood their letting Raavi get humiliated. I haven't seen the show from start and am unaware of what exactly happened but didn't Dhara know about Dev's feelings for Rishita? At least she could've told Raavi about that instead of forcing Shiva and Raavi into this mess. And now when all hell has broken loose for ShiVi, she is like "Fix it!" Nonsense!

Raavi pov

As per show she was ten days old , she lost her parents.. n mami takes her responsibility..

Whatever mami did to others but she did full justice as her mother 2 her which she even mention to shiva at haveli at least mami better mother than Suman n dhara ..

Raavi as person is pure, innocent ,bubbly ,kind hearted n grudge free.. n forgive easily every1..

The main problem of her takes herself for granted..

So she loved because dev use to be kind n talk to her nicely n gave her a respect normally as human due to this she thought dev could be her future life partner as she prefer these qualities... Whereas shiva rude to her becoz related to mami means everybody are bad..but she was nice to him.. she use to ignore her taunts n man handling..

As we in the show shiva only respects only his dhara n Suman no1 nt evn reshit after her superwoman stunt he started to talk her calmly bt respect I don't knw ...

As per shiva if someone does good 4 his family live as per bhabhi maa then they r otherwise they should live in this family..

Shiva after staying 4 months with raavi n evn knowing her from childhood she was did is always good to his family bt he was rude never apologize or talk to her properly bt raavi never disrespected to that extent accept becoz kidnapping mu which anybody would feel bad becoz she was abandoned n evn suicide attempt done which natural for her bt shiva never took any efforts to clear.

Shiva hates Anita as she ditched gautam during marriage what his family specially dev no hatred k understood blood relation bt why he was rude to raavi. He knows that she just want to be loved if not loved at least kindness..

She always craved for love n kindness becoz life was nt kind with her..

Everybody are saying raavi uses word adjust compromise bt will she use word love .. becoz both of them married for their family respect ... N if shiva wanted a girl who accepts loved him , no compromise no adjustments he should have not become to accept her..

Sometimes shiva apne aap ko tasalli dene ke liye bolta I don't need to change bt he knws he needs specially his anger .. n lots of other things ..

Bt he is stubborn like his mother n feel he is perfect in everything n takes decision bt now he is court jana hai divorce dena n all for me very confusing If she comes to u then compromise god's know what he wants..

Raavi herself taken for granted knowing what family n so mahan sons did nt once bt twice .. still nt thinking for being self dependent after getting humiliated on daily basis... Jst enrolling for course is nt enough..

May be she went to Pandya house back she always want return love n kindness she gt from that Pandya family as per her🤔 as she feel her life is full debts parents left , her masi took her responsibility n dev left becoz dhara shiva took her responsibility..

I feel she is attached to shiva because childhood frinemies n shiva saved her bt shiva has given much reasons to be loved... it's no

So this jealousy is crap to manipulate the emotions .. it was better some accidents n some situations where they need to care for each other..

I don't knw what this track is going to do bt I want both of them to put efforts instead of only raavi otherwise shiva character will be destroyed..

I don't want both bhabhi gharan to be there ...

As I don't like the current n upcoming track I will take break from the show because I can't with it n plus makers r rushing for reunion or more mu...

Finally! Someone said it 👏

Originally posted by: EuphoricDamsel.

Suman was right in saying they don't respect each other but it shouldn't be ONLY Raavi's responsibility to mend everything. Also, yes she's using reverse psychology and everything but even then Shiva hasn't for once talked/pacified/asked how she is feeling about it. I'm kind of very irked about this whole business.

There isn't a maid in the house but when one of her sons touch anything she creates a scene. Do not claim being a mother to your Daughter-In-Laws when you won't behave like one. 🤔

Don't get me wrong I used to like her character , comic and everything but past couple week it has been very irritating.

imo she is not using reverse psychology. For her , any woman who is not useful to her or to her sons doesn't deserve any respect . 🤢 for one mistake of raavi, which wasn't a mistake at all, suman asked her to get out and sign divorce papers. All her good deeds r down in gutter bec she asked krish to drop.kirti. why not blame dhara for this madness ? Ah ! She is NOT a mother to her dils. It's not possible for normal mothers also and this is suman we are talking about. How she threatens her dil that they will be thrown out and she caN get her sons remarried anytime , this is not what a mother does. A mother forgives her children for biggest of mistakes.

Reg Shiva raavi, I have said this since day one , raavi alone can't fix this ..Shiva looks at her for answers , she looks at him n they r at an impasse . Raavi is still very patient and kind with pandya family. She came bk for dhara keeping her self respect aside. Any normal girl would have walked out long ago. The way Shiva behaves with her , it's impossible for any girl to understand him . Dil sone ke hona is good, but showing that sone ka dil is also imp. Actions r also imp along with intentions.

Today Shiva was bk to square one when he blamed raavi for being double faced 🤢 this is when she is telling him that she didn't demand money , it was mami. She still helped him to escape. He still can't see HER sone jaisa dil. He can't read her face , her reluctance , her sadness but she is expected to read him perfectly ..

Originally posted by: Mitsu91

That's exactly what I said! I wanted to slap Suman so hard when I heard it and the great Bhabhi just stood their letting Raavi get humiliated. I haven't seen the show from start and am unaware of what exactly happened but didn't Dhara know about Dev's feelings for Rishita? At least she could've told Raavi about that instead of forcing Shiva and Raavi into this mess. And now when all hell has broken loose for ShiVi, she is like "Fix it!" Nonsense!

She learnt about rishita very late. She misread dev's mind n assumed that dev likes raavi. She fixed their marriage but dev told her very late that he likes rishita..then , she went to janardan for his rishta but moti Ben slapped dhara. She was insulted and thrown out..so gombi and Co. Decided that dev will marry raavi..they also decided to keep this a secret from suman and raavi.. But on wedding day, rishita ran away frm her house n turned up at the mandap ..so they had to get rishita married to dev..

Raavi was kept in dark about dev not wanting to marry her. She loved him since childhood..she didnt see his latka hua face all through the marriage.

Dhara and dev were responsible for this mess

Originally posted by: Mitsu91

Totally agree! Suman has never treated any of her daughter-in-laws with respect. She started caring for Dhara only after she got pregnant. Even now she calls all three of them with the insulting nick-names and has even started insulting her sons for supporting their wives. WTH!

And Dhara is just annoying! Her asking Raavi why she left Shiva was just absurd. She saw how he spoke with her and what he said. She herself broke all ties with him for like two miliseconds but still! Raavi gave a befitting reply to her though. I wish she fights back with Suman as well.

Ikr? I so want to see Raavi say something to Suman or even Dhara would do but oh my God just speak up!

Plus I understand the makers are trying to show the 'Childhood-Rivals' thingy between ShiVi but yk a little respect would be such a treat now. Even today he stormed outta court like there's no tomorrow. I had some hope from Gaumbi but in yesterday's episode he also requested Raavi only rather than knocking some sense about divorce into his brother's head.

Originally posted by: _charu_

imo she is not using reverse psychology. For her , any woman who is not useful to her or to her sons doesn't deserve any respect . 🤢 for one mistake of raavi, which wasn't a mistake at all, suman asked her to get out and sign divorce papers. All her good deeds r down in gutter bec she asked krish to drop.kirti. why not blame dhara for this madness ? Ah ! She is NOT a mother to her dils. It's not possible for normal mothers also and this is suman we are talking about. How she threatens her dil that they will be thrown out and she caN get her sons remarried anytime , this is not what a mother does. A mother forgives her children for biggest of mistakes.

Reg Shiva raavi, I have said this since day one , raavi alone can't fix this ..Shiva looks at her for answers , she looks at him n they r at an impasse . Raavi is still very patient and kind with pandya family. She came bk for dhara keeping her self respect aside. Any normal girl would have walked out long ago. The way Shiva behaves with her , it's impossible for any girl to understand him . Dil sone ke hona is good, but showing that sone ka dil is also imp. Actions r also imp along with intentions.

Today Shiva was bk to square one when he blamed raavi for being double faced 🤢 this is when she is telling him that she didn't demand money , it was mami. She still helped him to escape. He still can't see HER sone jaisa dil. He can't read her face , her reluctance , her sadness but she is expected to read him perfectly ..

Yea she has always been kind of vindictive towards all Bahus. I really hated the JOB DRAMA with Rishita too. Why do you hate her going ahead and working? And I don't understand this 'Gaumbi sbko paise denge' mentality. Bro all the members of the family are adults and should have the right to choose the amount of responsibility they want to take up.

The fact that Shiva still keeps fighting with Raavi even after she is helping Dhara while tolerating both Saas and Maha-Saas and a bit of Rishita too is something that has started to hurt me as well.

There is a huge ass communication gap between the couple and too many involvements of everyone in the family keeps ruining the bond more and more. Rishita wasn't wrong when she suggested a counsellor back in time. But Dhara Bhabhi (educated and everything) refused it point blank. WHY?!

I mean Suman I understand but why Bhabhi?

Originally posted by: EuphoricDamsel.

Ikr? I so want to see Raavi say something to Suman or even Dhara would do but oh my God just speak up!

Plus I understand the makers are trying to show the 'Childhood-Rivals' thingy between ShiVi but yk a little respect would be such a treat now. Even today he stormed outta court like there's no tomorrow. I had some hope from Gaumbi but in yesterday's episode he also requested Raavi only rather than knocking some sense about divorce into his brother's head.

I doubt Raavi would say something! At best she will just ignore Suman's words just like she did in today's episode when Suman kept taunting her when Raavi was doing Krish's first-aid.

As for Shiva and Raavi, I say again, jealousy is not the best solution; in fact it's the worst sequence to be introduced in the show. Solve old issues first, learn how to respect one another.

I think the show's stressing me out more than it's entertaining me I am gonna take a break for a while!