Misogyny & Clichés

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Does Suman not remember how badly Shiva humiliated Raavi? Everything is forgiven for Shiva the minute he got the toys for Dhara's baby but Raavi is constantly taunted for not understanding Shiva even after she came back to look after Dhara? I mean agar blame karna hi hai toh dono ko karo.

Raavi isn't the only person in this relationship. Shiva is equally responsible for the divorce; in fact he was the one who initiated it! This is an age old misogynistic and patriarchal mentality that the burden to maintain a relationship always falls on the wife. If a relationship is between two people, both of them are responsible for maintaining it. But here, Shiva can do whatever he wants and everyone will be like, "Raavi, Shiva ko samajh ne ki koshish kar!" Are you fu**ing kidding me? This is highly disheartening to see in today's day and age!

Raavi needs to understand where she went wrong and apologize for being so judgmental for sure but Shiva needs to apologize for his misbehavior as well. Even in today's episode, when Raavi called him, he was like "Bol Gadhedi!" We speak to strangers more politely than this. They both know about their feelings for each other and need to communicate organically without a third-wheel!

And to those who say Raavi doesn't trust Shiva and judges him in a wrong way even today, let's not forget that Shiva always showed anger and resentment towards her. If someone shows themselves in a certain way, you believe it. The moment he showed his caring side to her, her feelings changed and she started caring for him and even admitted, to the wrong people obviously, that she wanted to live for him, to make him her own, and to be his!

I know it's not easy for Shiva to show his soft side because he is afraid of being rejected and I feel for him but he needs to at least start by talking to Raavi nicely. Like today, when he asked her if she wanted to go to court, she voiced his own sentiments and when he asked her gently to hold on to him on the scooty, she complied softly. Even their mini-conversation while watching the moon was so gentle and heartwarming. They were standing so comfortably with each other in that moment as if they knew they belonged together. This gentleness is what's needed to mend their broken relationship not some Reshma!

Suman, Mami, and Raavi's a**-hole friends need to stay away from Raavi and Shiva and they need to come closer organically not forcefully!


p.s. the actors, all of them, are playing their part amazingly! Kudos to all of them :)

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Completely agree even I m very irritated by knowing this jealousy track..

Then reshit n shiva bts 4 clothing again bhabhi gharan.. her attitude is so inconsistent I jst hate her .

Suman always tuant raavi se kagdi ki beti n maami related bt what ABT reshit y Suman after becoz of her family Pandya suffering becoz reshit giv her back ...

Actually this show is getting on nerves nw

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Facts spoken. Completely agree to every word. That's what I don't get... How can people cheer for a person like Suman? She is the character who make insulting DIL normal and routine. Should that kind of behavior be glorified? And I can't watch this jealousy or third angle or whatever track this is to bring shivi closer.. That's a complete no no for me and I'm so glad someone is thinking along the same line.. And every line you wrote is a fact in itself.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Totally with you on this one. I'm finding Suman extremely unbearable in past couple episodes. Why is Raavi the only one getting all the gyaan from everyone to be the bigger person and stop the divorce?

You'd think being a woman Dhara and Suman would understand and talk to Shiva too not just her but Bhabhi Maa questioning Raavi straight up that Why'd she leave HER Shiva didn't sit still with me. But I also know this happens more often than not in reality..

Yes I understand that Raavi needs to clear things up with Shiva (pertaining to everything her friends said/did) but how come no one really cared about the fact that Shiva didn't just hit her colleagues he unknowingly pushed/hurt her too.
Suman was right in saying they don't respect each other but it shouldn't be ONLY Raavi's responsibility to mend everything. Also, yes she's using reverse psychology and everything but even then Shiva hasn't for once talked/pacified/asked how she is feeling about it. I'm kind of very irked about this whole business.

There isn't a maid in the house but when one of her sons touch anything she creates a scene. Do not claim being a mother to your Daughter-In-Laws when you won't behave like one. 🤔

Don't get me wrong I used to like her character , comic and everything but past couple week it has been very irritating.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Suman - The queen mother with the typical patriarchal mentality 😡

If sons suck up to her they are sanskaari but if they help their wives they are Petticoat chaap


Marriage is not a mother’s failed project where she passes on her man child full of ego and tantrums to the daughter in law to fix 😈


She is a control freak to say the least , Insecure to the core 😛


Shiva has got his mother’s traits throwing an attitude hissy fit at the drop of a hat 😤


Both mother son duo think others should be able to read their minds perfectly and act accordingly


Raavi , Rishita & dhara bear the brunt time to time

Such mother’s should not get the sons married 😡


Both need counseling on anger management






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Posted: 4 years ago
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Agree with you,

First of all I am not a fan of manhandling and also talking rudely in any relationship, I am not taking anyone ' side but for me how shiva talks with raavi sometimes is disrespecting I mean talk nicely with reach other atleast in front of other people , secondly raavi coming back even for dhara I am not digesting it dude have some self respect I mean he literally made whole chaos in front of whole city , you can't push your wife even in anger and thirdly I don't get the concept that how raavi gonna understand shiva when he won't speak I mean you can't read other people 's mind . 🤔

And the family uff they all need serious counseling like how not to get involved in the matters unnecessarily 🙄

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: brat2008

Suman - The queen mother with the typical patriarchal mentality 😡

If sons suck up to her they are sanskaari but if they help their wives they are Petticoat chaap


Marriage is not a mother’s failed project where she passes on her child man full of ego and tantrums to the daughter in law to fix 😈


She is a control freak to say the least , Insecure to the core 😛


Shiva has got his mother’s traits throwing an attitude hissy fit at the drop of a hat 😤


Both mother son duo think others should be able to read their minds perfectly and act accordingly


Raavi , Rishita & dhara bear the brunt time to time

Such mother’s should not get the sons married 😡


Both need counseling on anger management






I know it's kinda annoying. I mean I've always felt love dwindles with time but respect is something taht should be ABSOLUTELY there between two people in a marriage. There was none here. But Suman has no right to go ahead and keep taunting Raavi left-right-center. The way she said 'Tu aurat hokr smj nhi payi Ki Dev tujhse pyar nhi krta' DUUUDEEE Dev said YES for the alliance. He didn't have to say yes and go ahead with it if he didn't want to.

Even Dhara legit takes Shiva's side and refuses to listen to her every freaking time. Suman is shown as typical Saas but she feels she's a mom to all of her Bahus. I have absolutely never felt so. 😕

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: freebird_dd

Completely agree even I m very irritated by knowing this jealousy track..

Then reshit n shiva bts 4 clothing again bhabhi gharan.. her attitude is so inconsistent I jst hate her .

Suman always tuant raavi se kagdi ki beti n maami related bt what ABT reshit y Suman after becoz of her family Pandya suffering becoz reshit giv her back ...

Actually this show is getting on nerves nw


Exactly! Everything is forgiven for everyone except for Raavi! It's as if she is being punished by Suman and Shiva for being Prafulla's niece. I feel so bad seeing her being burnt like this over and over again and no one in the entire family stands up for her.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Darshi141

Facts spoken. Completely agree to every word. That's what I don't get... How can people cheer for a person like Suman? She is the character who make insulting DIL normal and routine. Should that kind of behavior be glorified? And I can't watch this jealousy or third angle or whatever track this is to bring shivi closer.. That's a complete no no for me and I'm so glad someone is thinking along the same line.. And every line you wrote is a fact in itself.


The jealousy track is the most rubbish one of all. They already have unresolved issues and instead of focusing on clearing their old hurdles, the makers will create more! The immaturity of this relationship is getting on my nerves now!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: EuphoricDamsel.

Totally with you on this one. I'm finding Suman extremely unbearable in past couple episodes. Why is Raavi the only one getting all the gyaan from everyone to be the bigger person and stop the divorce?

You'd think being a woman Dhara and Suman would understand and talk to Shiva too not just her but Bhabhi Maa questioning Raavi straight up that Why'd she leave HER Shiva didn't sit still with me. But I also know this happens more often than not in reality..

Yes I understand that Raavi needs to clear things up with Shiva (pertaining to everything her friends said/did) but how come no one really cared about the fact that Shiva didn't just hit her colleagues he unknowingly pushed/hurt her too.
Suman was right in saying they don't respect each other but it shouldn't be ONLY Raavi's responsibility to mend everything. Also, yes she's using reverse psychology and everything but even then Shiva hasn't for once talked/pacified/asked how she is feeling about it. I'm kind of very irked about this whole business.

There isn't a maid in the house but when one of her sons touch anything she creates a scene. Do not claim being a mother to your Daughter-In-Laws when you won't behave like one. 🤔

Don't get me wrong I used to like her character , comic and everything but past couple week it has been very irritating.


Totally agree! Suman has never treated any of her daughter-in-laws with respect. She started caring for Dhara only after she got pregnant. Even now she calls all three of them with the insulting nick-names and has even started insulting her sons for supporting their wives. WTH!

And Dhara is just annoying! Her asking Raavi why she left Shiva was just absurd. She saw how he spoke with her and what he said. She herself broke all ties with him for like two miliseconds but still! Raavi gave a befitting reply to her though. I wish she fights back with Suman as well.

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