Pandya Store|Episode Discussion #95|Bhabhi Maa's Adbhut Pregnancy - Page 58

Originally posted by: MayaTharkiFairy

I feel so done with Shivi😔🥺😭.....Help me...

Shiva😭.....

Welcome to the club 😆

On a serious note, everything is extremely one sided. The writers really need to buckle up and show some feelings, positive or negative, from raavi's side. Her passivity is just getting to be too much

Originally posted by: Anu_V

Makers need keep makeovers, dusri shaadi & jealousy away from ShiVi They aren’t the typical enemies-lovers trope. The cliches won’t work for me while watching them. Where is the Shiva who lifted a brick to scare Raavi & yet saved her from a tiny piece of a broken pot?

Kahan ho?

Where is the Raavi who fought and did andolan so that Shiva could get chole to eat?

Dono kahin kho gaye hain .. Raavi more than Shiva.

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

Where is the Raavi who fought and did andolan so that Shiva could get chole to eat?

Dono kahin kho gaye hain .. Raavi more than Shiva.

UGH. I need the Raavi who said "Tujhse Pyaar aur Izzat toh main karwake hi rahungi" back.

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

Welcome to the club 😆

On a serious note, everything is extremely one sided. The writers really need to buckle up and show some feelings, positive or negative, from raavi's side. Her passivity is just getting to be too much

You right,they need to show Raavis side 🙁

I just dont know what I feel for Raavi anymore....the more episodes the more I my heart wrenches for Shiva....😔😶

Originally posted by: Pottermeow

I admit that Raavi may not have any, and I mean any, romantic feelings for Shiva. But pre marriage, she did respect him. Yes, she was frightened by his rash nature whenever he pushed her too far, but you don't go fight toe to toe with someone you don't trust and respect (at least to an extent) when you know how extreme they can be....

Even post marriage, she still trusted him to save her. During the kidnapping sequence, and again post khandar. So, there was trust, respect, and a clear physical attraction (prior to the Sneha and diary kaand at least).

Now, was there understanding? Absolutely not. Shiva understood Raavi, to an extent, because she'd never bothered to hide anything from him. Raavi knew that there was a soft Shiva, this amazing person in him, but she'd only ever seen the firecracker side of him, and her trust stems more from the fact that Shiva would never let her get hurt (wouldn't let anyone else hurt her, at least). She believes he has a good heart (refer haldi and matki breaking episode) and that she will become privy to it post wedding.

Instead what happens? Her wedding to Dev breaks, and she is emotionally put in a spot and forced into a wedding with Shiva (to be clear, I blame both Dhara and Mausa pa for this). The final choice was hers, yes, but she wasn't in the right headspace to be thinking about a decision as big as marriage right then.

There is one thing I blame Shiva for. Not having a conversation with Raavi before the wedding. Shiva wasn't put on the spot the way Raavi was. Yes, his family's reputation was at stake, but he wasn't being coerced into it. He had been given an open choice, and I don't think Dhara would have forced him if he had said no And even if she had, Gaumbi wouldn't have let her (because he was against the match, if I'm remembering right). Shiva could've taken a moment to talk to her, to make sure she was ready for their marriage, to chalk out the basic expectations he had from a wedding to her, to figure out what Raavi wanted from him right then in that rushed marriage. He could have done it if he wanted to, but he didn't even see beyond his mahaan bhabhi maa and her mahaan request.

This is one of the reasons I love this track so much, that Shiva's priority is now Raavi, very clearly. But, if I were Raavi and had no idea about any of this? I would not dare take the first step towards him. Let's look at this from Raavi's point of view:

a) Shiva saved her life. He's done it before too. So, an act of humanity.

b) He agrees to the wedding. I don't know why. Rationally thinking later on, for his babhi's reputation.

c) He abandoned me too. He must really hate me. But I agreed to this wedding, so I'll pull through it.

d) He didn't abandon me. He told me he wasn't a selfish person. Another act of humanity for a childhood enemy.

e) We were almost back to that nok-jhok waala normal, but now he's pissed at me because of Sneha.

f) He read my diary. But that was an old diary. I've changed, so has my point of view. I don't mind those things anymore.

g) Dhara di was right. I should probably talk to him.

h) I tried talking to him. Told him I was willing to adjust, to compromise, to make this wedding work. I don't think I'm getting through though. I should try harder.

h) I probably shouldn't introduce Shiva to my friends. What if he shouts at them too? Silence is probably the best strategy here. He keeps moving away from me.

I) He disrespected me in front of the whole town. And then he refused to apologise. Back to being enemies it is. It's not like I understand him enough for anything more anyways. He was probably affected by my friend's words, but am I sure?

j) He said he wants freedom from me. He doesn't want me. He's let go of me before, but not like this. Never like this. I won't burden him with myself anymore.

PAUSE

This is how I assume Raavi's thought process to have been. Is it flawed, yes. But for a girl with zero relationship experience, expecting the worst, it's not the worst. Am I saying it's all Shiva's mistake? Absolutely not. I'm just saying that at this point, I wouldn't move back toward him for anything, unless he made the first step. Unless I knew there is something to fight for, whether or not things will work out.

PS My morning essay is complete .Now I am going to go help my mum around the house before she decides to kick me out of the house 😆.

Then I strongly feel they should go their separate ways, divorce is the way to go. The things you have listed from Raavi's POV shows that Shiva has failed big time and definitely not worthy of her. If Shiva's breakdown or Shiva's NDE is only going to make her fall in love then I don't understand that kind of love at all. She will be only in love with him out of pity and not because he deserved it and her love is going to be out of the blue not gradual.

I understand they need to talk in a civil manner which is what the makers are not giving us at all.

Originally posted by: Anu_V

UGH. I need the Raavi who said "Tujhse Pyaar aur Izzat toh main karwake hi rahungi" back.

I want her back too. I want the pre-marriage Shiva and Raavi to make an appearance so bad 💔

What happened after shiva went to the shop..what did rishitha do..nothing?..why was rishitha even there😕..it straight went to next day..

Now I doubt rishitha would have given him any good advise regarding not to change for others choices and all .🤪

If she had given any advice..it would be abt which dress he should choose..😒..that is if he has even bought a new dress..if he has bought any of that stupid chamkeeli things in the name of dress..I really hope he doesn't even wear it..ravi sees it in his wardrobe and tells him to never do this ever again..and he doesn't have to change his look for anyone becz he looks good in her eyes the way he is always..

PS.. I really dnt want to see Shiva wearing that chamkeeli hoodie or any hoodie after seeing this one.. 🤪

Pps..am I the only one who felt like burning the shop down for keeping those creepy wears on display..🤪🤪

Originally posted by: Pottermeow

I admit that Raavi may not have any, and I mean any, romantic feelings for Shiva. But pre marriage, she did respect him. Yes, she was frightened by his rash nature whenever he pushed her too far, but you don't go fight toe to toe with someone you don't trust and respect (at least to an extent) when you know how extreme they can be....

Even post marriage, she still trusted him to save her. During the kidnapping sequence, and again post khandar. So, there was trust, respect, and a clear physical attraction (prior to the Sneha and diary kaand at least).

Now, was there understanding? Absolutely not. Shiva understood Raavi, to an extent, because she'd never bothered to hide anything from him. Raavi knew that there was a soft Shiva, this amazing person in him, but she'd only ever seen the firecracker side of him, and her trust stems more from the fact that Shiva would never let her get hurt (wouldn't let anyone else hurt her, at least). She believes he has a good heart (refer haldi and matki breaking episode) and that she will become privy to it post wedding.

Instead what happens? Her wedding to Dev breaks, and she is emotionally put in a spot and forced into a wedding with Shiva (to be clear, I blame both Dhara and Mausa pa for this). The final choice was hers, yes, but she wasn't in the right headspace to be thinking about a decision as big as marriage right then.

There is one thing I blame Shiva for. Not having a conversation with Raavi before the wedding. Shiva wasn't put on the spot the way Raavi was. Yes, his family's reputation was at stake, but he wasn't being coerced into it. He had been given an open choice, and I don't think Dhara would have forced him if he had said no And even if she had, Gaumbi wouldn't have let her (because he was against the match, if I'm remembering right). Shiva could've taken a moment to talk to her, to make sure she was ready for their marriage, to chalk out the basic expectations he had from a wedding to her, to figure out what Raavi wanted from him right then in that rushed marriage. He could have done it if he wanted to, but he didn't even see beyond his mahaan bhabhi maa and her mahaan request.

This is one of the reasons I love this track so much, that Shiva's priority is now Raavi, very clearly. But, if I were Raavi and had no idea about any of this? I would not dare take the first step towards him. Let's look at this from Raavi's point of view:

a) Shiva saved her life. He's done it before too. So, an act of humanity.

b) He agrees to the wedding. I don't know why. Rationally thinking later on, for his babhi's reputation.

c) He abandoned me too. He must really hate me. But I agreed to this wedding, so I'll pull through it.

d) He didn't abandon me. He told me he wasn't a selfish person. Another act of humanity for a childhood enemy.

e) We were almost back to that nok-jhok waala normal, but now he's pissed at me because of Sneha.

f) He read my diary. But that was an old diary. I've changed, so has my point of view. I don't mind those things anymore.

g) Dhara di was right. I should probably talk to him.

h) I tried talking to him. Told him I was willing to adjust, to compromise, to make this wedding work. I don't think I'm getting through though. I should try harder.

h) I probably shouldn't introduce Shiva to my friends. What if he shouts at them too? Silence is probably the best strategy here. He keeps moving away from me.

I) He disrespected me in front of the whole town. And then he refused to apologise. Back to being enemies it is. It's not like I understand him enough for anything more anyways. He was probably affected by my friend's words, but am I sure?

j) He said he wants freedom from me. He doesn't want me. He's let go of me before, but not like this. Never like this. I won't burden him with myself anymore.

PAUSE

This is how I assume Raavi's thought process to have been. Is it flawed, yes. But for a girl with zero relationship experience, expecting the worst, it's not the worst. Am I saying it's all Shiva's mistake? Absolutely not. I'm just saying that at this point, I wouldn't move back toward him for anything, unless he made the first step. Unless I knew there is something to fight for, whether or not things will work out.

PS My morning essay is complete .Now I am going to go help my mum around the house before she decides to kick me out of the house 😆.

I don't think Shiva had much of a choice in the marriage decision either. Raavi was suicidal and he had reason to believe that he would be saving her life by marrying her.

Dhara's reputation was a part of it, but Shiva was equally shaken and affected by seeing Raavi having from a noose. We see this in later episodes as well.

He could have tried to have a conversation with her regardless. But then, she probably was not in the headspace to listen to him at that time.

Originally posted by: AhIshqHigh

Why was it so easy for Raavi to immediately think that Shiva has an inferiority complex and is insecure. It felt more like she herself thinks of him as a little inferior than others, and if that is the underlying feeling she has, their journey will take off in a long long time.

She did think of him as inferior to her at one point. Maybe she still does. The makers haven't been clear about that

Just saw the scene raavi has given up because shiva gave up first he called her character into question and then he is the one who sent divorce papers and now she feels abandoned on top she doesn't trust he won't do this again if suppose she tried to make it work. Not saying she tried her best to understand him but compared to him she tried to talk even asked what he wanted from her out of this marriage to turn into the wife he wanted but all he did was fight with her. She mentioned the complex and again we see shiva remember her friends and what he perceives what raavi prefers. He is also stuck at that point. He might be more vocal with himself about his feelings but even he is still stuck at her not wanting him as he is and her friends words. Neither one is willing to talk to the other or reflect they handled things wrong with each other.