ARUNITA KANJILAL AT #7 - Page 58

Originally posted by: Realityshow

Rupesh Sawarkar the BJP Youth Leader laying out dinner at J W Marriot.
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Aru with Dia Mishra

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Note: Dia got her 2nd Vaccine shot at the Octopus Studio the same day. So, not only are Octopus very resourceful, they will cover Aru-PD for 2nd shot whenever it is due and that date must be close now.

Policitians throwing so much money. I am in two minds whether that is good or bad. But then - I guess thede things are inevitable if they have to get anywhere in BW. One just has to hope they are betting on the right horses to get them ahead

Originally posted by: SamirM

Definitely this is negative journalism and Octopus is responsible for 1% trolling by the audience. Today this is 1% but the way things are rolling, it could be 90% after the album is released. Octopus is focused on selling the so called Arudeep Chemistry (!) instead of focusing on quality of songs.

If they think, the album will be a hit for Arudeep, they are in a fool's paradise and it will be ultimately harmful for career of Aru and PD.

The team should work hard on the lyrics, tune, composition of those 20 songs instead of wasting all their energy on improving Arudeep chemistry (!) for main shooting purpose.

Octopus should remember, they are doing a music album, they are not assigned in marketing of Arudeep story though there is an active market for this.

Arudeep fans are working as the unpaid brand ambassadors of Octopus, so Octopus is happy with their strategy.

If Octopus is serious about the mission, they should also promote videos of SMP. I find they are busy with showing Arudeep romantic videos! They are in a wrong way and I am afraid, the price would be paid by Aru and PD.

The show is over, I don't think the magnitude of Arudeep appeal exists at the same level when the show was on. By the time they release the album, the appeal will be further faded out. So, without quality music, the album may be a disaster for career of Aru and PD.

Let's not forget the fact of Arudeep mission by HR. 'Saasein' by Sawai was liked by the audiences more than both songs by Arudeep.

Sorry, if I hurt any Arudeep fan. This is my personal opinion as I am doubtful about the success of the album for such non professional approach of Octopus.

🙏

While I am no fan of the Octopus thing, I don't know if it is all bad.

If Octopus was not producing whatever they will produce then (as far as Arunita is concerned).

1. Arunita would be sitting at home in Bongaon and be completely away from public gaze. She has no work at the moment and the best she can hope for is gigs in town. The situation in WB is far from normal and no one is organizing any singing shows at this time.

2. Her next known assignment is the Hyderabad show in late October. Her next, and possibly last (for a while) national TV appearance will be the KBC show. Doubt very much whether KSS will call Idols.

3. Octopus keeps her in Mumbai. Pays for her stay presumably.

4. She gets exposure with Roshan's, politicians, showbiz people etc. etc. only because she is in Mumbai.

5. She needs social graces. She is getting the right exposure in Mumbai. Aunty's in Bongaon are no substitutes.

6. The songs are very likely to be flops. But it is discography for the record. Plus even if 5M people like it because of the pair it is better than nothing. More than anything, knowing Octopus there will be media blitz before release which is useful for both.

7. She has a long way to go (at 18) in a BW market that is still trying to grapple with OTT releases. Only blind supporters will feel strongly about her taking Shreya Ghoshal or even Vaishali Mhade (for that matter) on now. Her break will not come from filler Bollywood songs, it will need a pivotal song of quality - and those are rarely given to greenhorns any more because no director/producer dominates the market just by name anymore.

8. Being in the news gets her engagements, TV shows, gigs, etc. that helps her Mumbai stay where she must be to stay relevant. Otherwise she can come back home and be trapped in the local market and be a coach some day on Super Star Singer or whatever is running on Star Jalsha these days. 😃

Originally posted by: Realityshow

While I am no fan of the Octopus thing, I don't know if it is all bad.

If Octopus was not producing whatever they will produce then (as far as Arunita is concerned).

1. Arunita would be sitting at home in Bongaon and be completely away from public gaze. She has no work at the moment and the best she can hope for is gigs in town. The situation in WB is far from normal and no one is organizing any singing shows at this time.

2. Her next known assignment is the Hyderabad show in late October. Her next, and possibly last (for a while) national TV appearance will be the KBC show. Doubt very much whether KSS will call Idols.

3. Octopus keeps her in Mumbai. Pays for her stay presumably.

4. She gets exposure with Roshan's, politicians, showbiz people etc. etc. only because she is in Mumbai.

5. She needs social graces. She is getting the right exposure in Mumbai. Aunty's in Bongaon are no substitutes.

6. The songs are very likely to be flops. But it is discography for the record. Plus even if 5M people like it because of the pair it is better than nothing. More than anything, knowing Octopus there will be media blitz before release which is useful for both.

7. She has a long way to go (at 18) in a BW market that is still trying to grapple with OTT releases. Only blind supporters will feel strongly about her taking Shreya Ghoshal or even Vaishali Mhade (for that matter) on now. Her break will not come from filler Bollywood songs, it will need a pivotal song of quality - and those are rarely given to greenhorns any more because no director/producer dominates the market just by name anymore.

8. Being in the news gets her engagements, TV shows, gigs, etc. that helps her Mumbai stay where she must be to stay relevant. Otherwise she can come back home and be trapped in the local market and be a coach some day on Super Star Singer or whatever is running on Star Jalsha these days. 😃

Very well put. At this stage she has to build her CV and for that all these songs matter. Plus the exposure and contacts this is generating. Hopefully she learns how to make use of the contacts in the future.

Originally posted by: SamirM

Definitely this is negative journalism and Octopus is responsible for 1% trolling by the audience. Today this is 1% but the way things are rolling, it could be 90% after the album is released. Octopus is focused on selling the so called Arudeep Chemistry (!) instead of focusing on quality of songs.

If they think, the album will be a hit for Arudeep, they are in a fool's paradise and it will be ultimately harmful for career of Aru and PD.

The team should work hard on the lyrics, tune, composition of those 20 songs instead of wasting all their energy on improving Arudeep chemistry (!) for main shooting purpose.

Octopus should remember, they are doing a music album, they are not assigned in marketing of Arudeep story though there is an active market for this.

Arudeep fans are working as the unpaid brand ambassadors of Octopus, so Octopus is happy with their strategy.

If Octopus is serious about the mission, they should also promote videos of SMP. I find they are busy with showing Arudeep romantic videos! They are in a wrong way and I am afraid, the price would be paid by Aru and PD.

The show is over, I don't think the magnitude of Arudeep appeal exists at the same level when the show was on. By the time they release the album, the appeal will be further faded out. So, without quality music, the album may be a disaster for career of Aru and PD.

Let's not forget the fact of Arudeep mission by HR. 'Saasein' by Sawai was liked by the audiences more than both songs by Arudeep.

Sorry, if I hurt any Arudeep fan. This is my personal opinion as I am doubtful about the success of the album for such non professional approach of Octopus.

🙏

RealityShow has articulated very well in response. Just a couple of more points.

Work on songs is definitely going on. There are reports already of a 3rd song being finalized. Plus in the launch Raj Surani had said that some songs will be composed by Pawan-Ashish, and we have seen Ashish at Octopus twice already. Who knows how much more time he is spending there.

They don't necessarily need to promote SMP as much as PD and AK. She many not have an equal number of songs, and arguably she may not have an equal fan following across the country. Also possible that she is in Vizag / Hyd due to prior commitments. We've seen news about events in both places already.

Originally posted by: Realityshow

While I am no fan of the Octopus thing, I don't know if it is all bad.

If Octopus was not producing whatever they will produce then (as far as Arunita is concerned).

1. Arunita would be sitting at home in Bongaon and be completely away from public gaze. She has no work at the moment and the best she can hope for is gigs in town. The situation in WB is far from normal and no one is organizing any singing shows at this time.

2. Her next known assignment is the Hyderabad show in late October. Her next, and possibly last (for a while) national TV appearance will be the KBC show. Doubt very much whether KSS will call Idols.

3. Octopus keeps her in Mumbai. Pays for her stay presumably.

4. She gets exposure with Roshan's, politicians, showbiz people etc. etc. only because she is in Mumbai.

5. She needs social graces. She is getting the right exposure in Mumbai. Aunty's in Bongaon are no substitutes.

6. The songs are very likely to be flops. But it is discography for the record. Plus even if 5M people like it because of the pair it is better than nothing. More than anything, knowing Octopus there will be media blitz before release which is useful for both.

7. She has a long way to go (at 18) in a BW market that is still trying to grapple with OTT releases. Only blind supporters will feel strongly about her taking Shreya Ghoshal or even Vaishali Mhade (for that matter) on now. Her break will not come from filler Bollywood songs, it will need a pivotal song of quality - and those are rarely given to greenhorns any more because no director/producer dominates the market just by name anymore.

8. Being in the news gets her engagements, TV shows, gigs, etc. that helps her Mumbai stay where she must be to stay relevant. Otherwise she can come back home and be trapped in the local market and be a coach some day on Super Star Singer or whatever is running on Star Jalsha these days. 😃

If they focus on the core content of project instead of peripherial subjects, the project could be a success for all as they have assigned 3 talented singers. In that case, Aru benefits with a hit project along with all other benefits you mentioned.

If this project fails drastically after rising the expectation so high, that will definitely have adverse impact on Aru's career. 😔

Originally posted by: SamirM

I agree to you. You know better than me on developing a singing career. My point was only about the Octopus album. The way they are dealing with this highlighting Arudeep chemistry instead of focusing on 'content' of the project, I am afraid the project may fail.

If they focus on the core content of project instead of peripherial subjects, the project could be a success for all as they have assigned 3 talented singers. In that case, Aru benefits with a hit project along with all other benefits you mentioned.

If this project fails drastically after rising the expectation so high, that will definitely have adverse impact on Aru's career. 😔

Raj Surani is a successful business man. If you see his filmography on IMDB for the films to which he has provided dancers, it is a very long and impressive list. He found a white space so many years ago and developed it well.

I don't think he will throw money behind a whim. I am sure he is spending enough time and effort on the songs, music, etc.

Also, some setbacks are evident in a career. She just needs to have the perseverance and good guidance to continue to push.

Originally posted by: PV_IFhandle

The song as such or this particular video? I feel it is a beautiful song and they do a good job of it too.

I like aru and pawan's performance on this song

Originally posted by: SamirM

I agree to you. You know better than me on developing a singing career. My point was only about the Octopus album. The way they are dealing with this highlighting Arudeep chemistry instead of focusing on 'content' of the project, I am afraid the project may fail.

If they focus on the core content of project instead of peripherial subjects, the project could be a success for all as they have assigned 3 talented singers. In that case, Aru benefits with a hit project along with all other benefits you mentioned.

If this project fails drastically after rising the expectation so high, that will definitely have adverse impact on Aru's career. 😔

Originally posted by: SamirM

I agree to you.

If this project fails drastically after rising the expectation so high, that will definitely have adverse impact on Aru's career. 😔

Thanks. 😃

Bold: It is a mixed call really. If these songs are a great hit - what will it do for Aru's Bollywood career? Honestly, little I feel. It would have been great for a newbie for exposure to those looking for a voice for a project/film. After 300+ songs on Idol 12. Arunita does not need to provide more samples. Either she is as good as we think or we/Sony /public overhyped her. Flop songs even Shreya/Arijit/Sunidhi sing - that does not make them less wanted or desirable. You have to look at the discography of these singers to see that they have tons of songs that no one can recall. Also all non-live songs are over-engineered. They serve little purpose in evaluating quality. You have to hear HR's song releases to see the extent of manipulation.

So I don't know if good or bad the songs will have any impact on a Bollywood career. Yes, bad will mean that independent productions of music videos may stop for a while. Or people will invest on the two individuals and not make duets any more.

Music videos are a good way of introducing oneself, staying relevant, making money - not necessarily a ticket to Bollywood. For that your real voice, your contacts, your door knocking ability, your social presence and visibility are relevant.

Plus, and it is a big plus, Sony is the only real ticket that these Idols have at this moment. Sony is invested in PD-Arunita -SMP in a big way with this video series. That counts for something in the long run. I am pretty sure about that. Sony can make Arunita's career - they have the resources. This punt with Octopus may have some ingredients that could tick the right boxes for that to happen.

Already you have the feeling that from Freemantle, to TCT, to Talent MGmt there is a different vibe for the duo. It has nothing to do with their Idol results. I have seen winners before too. Octopus is in a way making all that happen as far as I can tell.

So, I hope that doomsday will be averted for Aru with the Octopus misadventure. Pluses are very strong and she really does not have the earth to loose. 😃

Originally posted by: Realityshow

Thanks. 😃

Bold: It is a mixed call really. If these songs are a great hit - what will it do for Aru's Bollywood career? Honestly, little I feel. It would have been great for a newbie for exposure to those looking for a voice for a project/film. After 300+ songs on Idol 12. Arunita does not need to provide more samples. Either she is as good as we think or we/Sony /public overhyped her. Flop songs even Shreya/Arijit/Sunidhi sing - that does not make them less wanted or desirable. You have to look at the discography of these singers to see that they have tons of songs that no one can recall. Also all non-live songs are over-engineered. They serve little purpose in evaluating quality. You have to hear HR's song releases to see the extent of manipulation.

So I don't know if good or bad the songs will have any impact on a Bollywood career. Yes, bad will mean that independent productions of music videos may stop for a while. Or people will invest on the two individuals and not make duets any more.

Music videos are a good way of introducing oneself, staying relevant, making money - not necessarily a ticket to Bollywood. For that your real voice, your contacts, your door knocking ability, your social presence and visibility are relevant.

Plus, and it is a big plus, Sony is the only real ticket that these Idols have at this moment. Sony is invested in PD-Arunita -SMP in a big way with this video series. That counts for something in the long run. I am pretty sure about that. Sony can make Arunita's career - they have the resources. This punt with Octopus may have some ingredients that could tick the right boxes for that to happen.

Already you have the feeling that from Freemantle, to TCT, to Talent MGmt there is a different vibe for the duo. It has nothing to do with their Idol results. I have seen winners before too. Octopus is in a way making all that happen as far as I can tell.

So, I hope that doomsday will be averted for Aru with the Octopus misadventure. Pluses are very strong and she really does not have the earth to loose. 😃

Thanks again for sharing insights.

Just thinking a bit about this, especially your point about the fact that Fremantle, TCT, Sony etc. all seem to be treating these 2 at a different level compared to the others. While we fans have been upset over Arunita's treatment by the channel during the show, maybe the channel / Fremantle / TCT did all that knowingly. There may have been tremendous political pressure to promote one contestant, which we have now seen appears to have been the case. With their experience and knowledge they would have known that more than the show, it is what happens beyond the show that matters to these people's careers. And that could have been why they let one contestant get promoted more during the show but now when it comes to putting hard money their real focus is becoming evident. They may have also explained this to AK / PD earlier - don't worry, the show matters less than the future and we are invested in you for the future - just go along with all the BS during the show. Repeating songs already sung by Sayli earlier, "forgetting" lyrics, songs getting cut, etc. I can't believe Ashaji said only 2 lines for Arunita - but they had to cut it because they cut the main song Roz Roz Aankhon Talein. That's an example, but I think you get my drift.