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Originally posted by: Rdigest

I consider deranged to be extremely dangerous with a sharp mind so said deranged 🤣

Wow great points yaar. I didn't think of Virat and this saying frankly since many of these were in the past but fits him aswell 😆.

Point 4 might happen this week maybe not like we want but according to Asmi he will tell infront of the family that he has nothing to do with her and it's upto samrat and Pakhi what they want to do with their life.

Just curious, Do you speak Telugu ?

Italics- I have mentioned this twice.. she gives me the creeps as if she would go Lizzy Borden on the entire family someday🤣

Bold - I understand pretty well and speak to an extent..

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Disclaimer: Usually I read all the posts in Neerja's thread as soon as she posts and I get tagged. But today I did not because, I wanted to write what I understood without any external influence. I might be wrong here but this episode is the clearest episode for me to see Virat! And confirmed few things about Pakhi for me.

Awesome and milestone kind of episode because it clearly untangles so many things about Virat's state of mind in the past and present and Pakhi's mind in the past (not mentioning the present because it is stuck in the past)

I liked the writing, yes it was solid and intact. I liked it even more because it showed us who Virat Chavan is!.

The episode started with a disclaimer from Virat himself. He kind of knows where Pakhi might take their conversation so he presented as a disclaimer that people change and he also changed when she 'mis'-ordered coffee for him. He might be still liking espresso, but he wanted to make a statement here and wow it had an effect. Pakhi got stuck for a bit...knowing that she cant delve into the subject directly so shifted her focus on his fever!! A person with real concern would first ask him about his health as the first question...great writing here.

Second thing, clarifies why Virat is here at the first place. He is here to discuss about Samrat's talk with her. This is important to him as his brother, as a family member and we cannot deny, neither did Virat today that he is somewhere connected to their marriage. One of the greatest qualities of Virat is that he doesnt escape from the word or the situation. He was uncomfortable coming here. His body language was screaming it, but he did come. Thats Virat for me!.

Third one, when she told him what Samrat said about staying back if she gives her a chance, Virat is pleased that the marriage is not ending. But if we hear what Pakhi said next, it confirms my second statement above. She knows he will only respond to her as Samrat's brother and she doesnt want that. She wants him to respond as her ex-lover! So she asked him to not answer her as his brother...Pakhi thinks he is ignoring this fact but she has to understand that he forgot it totally. Pakhi preemptively tries to negate this fact that he came here as only a brother by desperately acting familiarity and trying to 'emphasize' their relationship. She is calculative. period. Following scenes will tell more. Virat's reaction was shock and disbelief that after making it clear to her on more than one ocassion, she brings up the past. For him, their past is contention in both marriages and in their family and he doesnt like it that she brings it at the drop of a hat! Thats why he said 'why this simple fact she doesnt understand'!.

Fourth scene which was kind of sarcastic is that Virat calls her mature, and the next moment he explains her like a school teacher explaining to kid that the nature of life is to change. His words on mature and samajhdar has 'sarcasm' written over it. And his 'Pakhi' is nothing endearing. It is something that the other person he has known with..First time, I didnt feel bad about him calling her Pakhi. Now the way Pakhi reminds her past with him, clearly shows it is still fresh in her mind. She is stuck! She nurtured it for the entire year so it became so strong that nothing else matters to her. On the contrary Virat said one year is long that everything changed with him. This scene he was still patient with her explaining things.

Fifth scene is very important. Virat speaks of Destiny. He gives so much importance to it why? he repeats it again and again why? Because we are told many times that one can shape their own destiny which I believe is also true. But who speaks about destiny the most..the ones who had miracles happening with their life. I think thats what Virat thinks about his marriage with Sai. She came into his life in the most impossible circumstances. Only thing he did to make this destiny possible is to keep his word given to Kamal Joshi, the one who saved his life. He did not think that this 'duty' of his will give him his biggest happiness of life! It is almost like a divine intervention for him. Hence the word destiny. What Virat did is to not let of this gift, and he nurtured it with so much love and dedication. He was talking like falling for Sai is his natural instinct. Something like bowing down to the divine plan. I loved it when he explained to her everything so clearly regarding his promise to Kamal Joshi and his marriage to Sai. 👏 And when does he bring this topic, when Pakhi talks about keeping promises. Yes he kept the promise...to Kamal Joshi. This promise is the one he valued...and after that everything just happened! And the smile when he says proudly that he loves Sai...his feelings are shown in his pleasant smile. It is not overrated emotion...it is as simple and as uncomplicated as falling in love with her. Awesome writing again.

Sixth scene which showed the other face of Virat chavan. Till now he did not lose his patience, which is his valuable trait. He was explaining to her as clearly and as softly as he could. When she asks him again and 'again' about his feelings for him, he comes straight. What he felt was attraction! Bam. We had so many discussions in the forum why Virat doesnt come clean on what he felt with Pakhi. But he is the man who doesnt triviliaze anything...who will say to the girl who loved him/her once that what existed between them was just attraction. How insensitive that would have been for any person. Virat was definitely not that. Today he lost it after she asked it on umpteenth time. He told her on face. Everyone has a limit..Virat has a bigger boiling point 😆 The last time, after he came from GC confrontation, he was quiet when she hinted that what he had was just infatuation. He never lied to himself or to Pakhi. Thats why I say he has to apologize Pakhi for the vaada, because it was not genuine in the first place. Hope he does it on one day. Okay coming back, today he confirmed that what he had for Pakhi was momentary. Pakhi nodding her head showed her denial. Did he end there, no. He explained her what real love is, which is something he feels for Sai. He has lived it so he knows there is a difference, a big huge glaring difference. He cant be much clearer.

Seventh scene, Virat completely losing it (by the way this would have happened with Sai at the first instance 🤔). The anger and frustration. This is actually his current status with Pakhi. But what did Pakhi do here as the last dig at him...instigating him by showing his futile love for Sai. She knows his love for Sai. She acknowledged it, more that it is necessary for the conversation they were having. She said it is clear in his eyes but but will he get it back? She was almost hoping that he would snap out and change his decision in favor of her because of his frustration of unrequited love from his wife. But what did he get as soon as she compares herself to 'his' wife, immediate rebuke. He is NOT willing to compare anyone with his wife. She is too special and that too comparing herself with her is something that riles him up. Just because she shared few days with him, she cannot take the liberty of putting herself behind Sai and that too for his affections. Tomorrow he will blast her off I guess.

PS: The way he say "She is my wife" as the words written on rock, as a universal law that someone could not deny is so heartwarming to watch. Neil nails the words with added emotions. Thats why Virat gets pissed off with Sai very often...the respect he has for this marriage (given to him by destiny), he cant tolerate even Sai putting it down. It is like going against the will of God for him 😆 Virat "SaiPati' Chavan here 😎

Loved your analysis. Thank god you watched it.

The episode really stands out ..

On twitter also I found many who loved the episode.

I think virat dialogue about kismat is how he & pakhi never meant to be together that's why they separated after yoga camp. He said kismat mein humari milan nahi likha. He was explaining what he felt from the moment he met pakhi to present. He used the word judai when explaining how they separated after yoga retreat not now. That time they separated & again met in samrakhi marriage. That's why he used the term judaai. He said we meet people in our life,feel attraction but after moving on we realise that was only attraction. And what u & me had is friendship for which we gave love name. I think he was pretty sure he realised his interraction with pakhi was attraction not love after moving on with sai & after realising what true love is. That's why he said love is something what I have for sai. He didn't said he love sai because of the time. He said he spent only moments with pakhi but with sai he spent life since a year. He mentioned how sai always stood by him & he doesn't realise how his zimmedari turned into love. He mentioned kj sacrifice to say under what circumstantes he had to marry sai. I think that was unnecessary. I lost connect with virat character long back. But in today episode he was pretty much clear. It is second time he was mentioning what he & pakhi had is attraction not love. He used wrong usage of words but it is clear what he wanted to say.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Disclaimer: Usually I read all the posts in Neerja's thread as soon as she posts and I get tagged. But today I did not because, I wanted to write what I understood without any external influence. I might be wrong here but this episode is the clearest episode for me to see Virat! And confirmed few things about Pakhi for me.

Awesome and milestone kind of episode because it clearly untangles so many things about Virat's state of mind in the past and present and Pakhi's mind in the past (not mentioning the present because it is stuck in the past)

I liked the writing, yes it was solid and intact. I liked it even more because it showed us who Virat Chavan is!.

The episode started with a disclaimer from Virat himself. He kind of knows where Pakhi might take their conversation so he presented as a disclaimer that people change and he also changed when she 'mis'-ordered coffee for him. He might be still liking espresso, but he wanted to make a statement here and wow it had an effect. Pakhi got stuck for a bit...knowing that she cant delve into the subject directly so shifted her focus on his fever!! A person with real concern would first ask him about his health as the first question...great writing here.

Second thing, clarifies why Virat is here at the first place. He is here to discuss about Samrat's talk with her. This is important to him as his brother, as a family member and we cannot deny, neither did Virat today that he is somewhere connected to their marriage. One of the greatest qualities of Virat is that he doesnt escape from the word or the situation. He was uncomfortable coming here. His body language was screaming it, but he did come. Thats Virat for me!.

Third one, when she told him what Samrat said about staying back if she gives him a chance, Virat is pleased that the marriage is not ending. But if we hear what Pakhi said next, it confirms my second statement above. She knows he will only respond to her as Samrat's brother and she doesnt want that. She wants him to respond as her ex-lover! So she asked him to not answer her as his brother...Pakhi thinks he is ignoring this fact but she has to understand that he forgot it totally. Pakhi preemptively tries to negate this fact that he came here as only a brother by desperately acting familiarity and trying to 'emphasize' their relationship by touching his hand. She is calculative. period. Following scenes will tell more. Virat's reaction was shock and disbelief that after making it clear to her on more than one ocassion, she still brings up the past. For him, their past is contention in both the marriages and in their family and he doesnt like it that she brings it at the drop of a hat! Thats why he said 'why this simple fact she doesnt understand'!.

Fourth scene which was kind of sarcastic is that Virat calls her mature, and the next moment he explains her like a school teacher explaining to kid that the nature of life is to change. His words on mature and samajhdar has 'sarcasm' written over it. And his calling 'Pakhi' is nothing endearing. It is something that the other person he has known with..First time, I didnt feel bad about him calling her Pakhi. Now the way Pakhi reminds her past with him, clearly shows it is still fresh in her mind. She is stuck! She nurtured it for the entire year so it became so strong that nothing else matters to her. On the contrary Virat said one year is long that everything changed with him. This scene he was still patient with her explaining things.

Fifth scene is very important. Virat speaks of Destiny. He gives so much importance to it why? he repeats it again and again why? We are told many times that one can shape their own destiny which I believe is also true. But who speaks about destiny the most..the ones who had miracles happening with their life. I think thats what Virat thinks about his marriage with Sai. She came into his life in the most impossible circumstances. Only thing he did to make this destiny possible is to keep his word given to Kamal Joshi, the one who saved his life. He did not think that this 'duty' of his will give him his biggest happiness of life! It is almost like a divine intervention for him. Hence the word destiny. What Virat did is to not let go of this gift, and he nurtured it with so much love and dedication. He was talking like falling for Sai is his natural instinct. Something like bowing down to the divine plan. I loved it when he explained to her everything so clearly regarding his promise to Kamal Joshi and his marriage to Sai. 👏 And when does he bring this topic? when Pakhi talks about keeping promises. Yes he kept the promise...to Kamal Joshi. This promise is the one he valued...and after that everything just happened! And the smile when he says proudly that he loves Sai...his feelings are shown in his pleasant smile. It is not overrated emotion...it is as simple and as uncomplicated as falling in love with her. Awesome writing again.

Sixth scene which showed the other face of Virat chavan. Till now he did not lose his patience, which is his valuable trait. He was explaining to her as clearly and as softly as he could. When she asks him again and 'again' about his feelings for him, he comes straight. What he felt was attraction! Bam. We had so many discussions in the forum why Virat doesnt come clean on what he felt with Pakhi. But he is the man who doesnt triviliaze anything...who will say to the girl who loved him/her once that what existed between them was just attraction. How insensitive that would have been for any person. Virat was definitely not that. Today he lost it after she asked it on umpteenth time. He told her on face. Everyone has a limit..Virat has a bigger boiling point 😆 The last time, after he came from GC confrontation, he was quiet when she hinted that what he had was just infatuation. He never lied to himself or to Pakhi. Thats why I say he has to apologize Pakhi for the vaada, because it was not genuine in the first place. Hope he does it on one day. Okay coming back, today he confirmed that what he had for Pakhi was momentary. Pakhi nodding her head showed her denial. Did he end there, no. He explained her what real love is, which is something he feels for Sai. He has lived it so he knows there is a difference, a big huge glaring difference. He cant be much clearer.

Seventh scene, Virat completely losing it (by the way this would have happened with Sai at the first instance 🤔). The anger and frustration. This is actually his current status with Pakhi. But what did Pakhi do here as the last dig at him...instigating him by showing his futile love for Sai. She knows his love for Sai. She acknowledged it, more that it is necessary for the conversation they were having. She said it is clear in his eyes but but will he get it back? She was almost hoping that he would snap out and change his decision in favor of her because of his frustration of unrequited love from his wife. But what did he get as soon as she compares herself to 'his' wife, immediate rebuke. He is NOT willing to compare anyone with his wife. She is too special and that too comparing herself with her is something that riles him up. Just because she shared few days with him, she cannot take the liberty of putting herself behind Sai and that too for his affections. Tomorrow he will blast her off I guess.

PS: The way he say "She is my wife" as the words written on rock, as a universal law that someone could not deny is so heartwarming to watch. Neil nails the words with added emotions. Thats why Virat gets pissed off with Sai very often...the respect he has for this marriage (given to him by destiny), he cant tolerate even Sai putting it down. It is like going against the will of God for him 😆 Virat "SaiPati' Chavan here 😎

Absolutely beautiful analysis ❤️

I especially love what you have written about the kismat dialogues. I could not agree more with this take!!!

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Disclaimer: Usually I read all the posts in Neerja's thread as soon as she posts and I get tagged. But today I did not because, I wanted to write what I understood without any external influence. I might be wrong here but this episode is the clearest episode for me to see Virat! And confirmed few things about Pakhi for me.

Awesome and milestone kind of episode because it clearly untangles so many things about Virat's state of mind in the past and present and Pakhi's mind in the past (not mentioning the present because it is stuck in the past)

I liked the writing, yes it was solid and intact. I liked it even more because it showed us who Virat Chavan is!.

The episode started with a disclaimer from Virat himself. He kind of knows where Pakhi might take their conversation so he presented as a disclaimer that people change and he also changed when she 'mis'-ordered coffee for him. He might be still liking espresso, but he wanted to make a statement here and wow it had an effect. Pakhi got stuck for a bit...knowing that she cant delve into the subject directly so shifted her focus on his fever!! A person with real concern would first ask him about his health as the first question...great writing here.

Second thing, clarifies why Virat is here at the first place. He is here to discuss about Samrat's talk with her. This is important to him as his brother, as a family member and we cannot deny, neither did Virat today that he is somewhere connected to their marriage. One of the greatest qualities of Virat is that he doesnt escape from the word or the situation. He was uncomfortable coming here. His body language was screaming it, but he did come. Thats Virat for me!.

Third one, when she told him what Samrat said about staying back if she gives him a chance, Virat is pleased that the marriage is not ending. But if we hear what Pakhi said next, it confirms my second statement above. She knows he will only respond to her as Samrat's brother and she doesnt want that. She wants him to respond as her ex-lover! So she asked him to not answer her as his brother...Pakhi thinks he is ignoring this fact but she has to understand that he forgot it totally. Pakhi preemptively tries to negate this fact that he came here as only a brother by desperately acting familiarity and trying to 'emphasize' their relationship by touching his hand. She is calculative. period. Following scenes will tell more. Virat's reaction was shock and disbelief that after making it clear to her on more than one ocassion, she still brings up the past. For him, their past is contention in both the marriages and in their family and he doesnt like it that she brings it at the drop of a hat! Thats why he said 'why this simple fact she doesnt understand'!.

Fourth scene which was kind of sarcastic is that Virat calls her mature, and the next moment he explains her like a school teacher explaining to kid that the nature of life is to change. His words on mature and samajhdar has 'sarcasm' written over it. And his calling 'Pakhi' is nothing endearing. It is something that the other person he has known with..First time, I didnt feel bad about him calling her Pakhi. Now the way Pakhi reminds her past with him, clearly shows it is still fresh in her mind. She is stuck! She nurtured it for the entire year so it became so strong that nothing else matters to her. On the contrary Virat said one year is long that everything changed with him. This scene he was still patient with her explaining things.

Fifth scene is very important. Virat speaks of Destiny. He gives so much importance to it why? he repeats it again and again why? We are told many times that one can shape their own destiny which I believe is also true. But who speaks about destiny the most..the ones who had miracles happening with their life. I think thats what Virat thinks about his marriage with Sai. She came into his life in the most impossible circumstances. Only thing he did to make this destiny possible is to keep his word given to Kamal Joshi, the one who saved his life. He did not think that this 'duty' of his will give him his biggest happiness of life! It is almost like a divine intervention for him. Hence the word destiny. What Virat did is to not let go of this gift, and he nurtured it with so much love and dedication. He was talking like falling for Sai is his natural instinct. Something like bowing down to the divine plan. I loved it when he explained to her everything so clearly regarding his promise to Kamal Joshi and his marriage to Sai. 👏 And when does he bring this topic? when Pakhi talks about keeping promises. Yes he kept the promise...to Kamal Joshi. This promise is the one he valued...and after that everything just happened! And the smile when he says proudly that he loves Sai...his feelings are shown in his pleasant smile. It is not overrated emotion...it is as simple and as uncomplicated as falling in love with her. Awesome writing again.

Sixth scene which showed the other face of Virat chavan. Till now he did not lose his patience, which is his valuable trait. He was explaining to her as clearly and as softly as he could. When she asks him again and 'again' about his feelings for him, he comes straight. What he felt was attraction! Bam. We had so many discussions in the forum why Virat doesnt come clean on what he felt with Pakhi. But he is the man who doesnt triviliaze anything...who will say to the girl who loved him/her once that what existed between them was just attraction? How insensitive that would have been for any person. Virat was definitely not that. Today he lost it after she asked it on umpteenth time. He told her on face. Everyone has a limit..Virat has a bigger boiling point 😆 The last time, after he came from GC confrontation, he was quiet when she hinted that what he had was just infatuation. He never lied to himself or to Pakhi. Thats why I say he has to apologize Pakhi for the vaada, because it was not genuine in the first place. Hope he does it on one day. Okay coming back, today he confirmed that what he had for Pakhi was momentary. Pakhi nodding her head showed her denial. Did he end there, no. He explained her what real love is, which is something he feels for Sai. He has lived it so he knows there is a difference, a big huge glaring difference. He cant be much clearer.

Seventh scene, Virat completely losing it (by the way this would have happened with Sai at the first instance 🤔). The anger and frustration. This is actually his current status with Pakhi. But what did Pakhi do here as the last dig at him...instigating him by showing his futile love for Sai. She knows his love for Sai. She acknowledged it, more than it is necessary for the conversation they were having. She said, it is clear in his eyes but but will he get it back? She was almost hoping that he would snap out and change his decision in favor of her because of his frustration of unrequited love from his wife. But what did she get as soon as she compares herself to 'his' wife, immediate rebuke. He is NOT willing to compare anyone with his wife. She is too special and that too comparing herself with Sai is something that riles him up. Just because she shared few days with him, she cannot take the liberty of putting herself beside Sai and that too for his affections. Tomorrow he will blast her off I guess.

PS: The way he say "She is my wife" as the words written on rock, as a universal law that someone could not deny is so heartwarming to watch. Neil nails the words with added emotions. Thats why Virat gets pissed off with Sai very often...the respect he has for this marriage (given to him by destiny), he cant tolerate even Sai putting it down. It is like going against the will of God for him 😆 Virat "SaiPati' Chavan here 😎

EXACTLY what I felt after watching the episode. THIS. Great great great post 👏👏

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

You know when I checked EDT thread,you are asking whether to watch the episode. I want to just shout..Please watch it.You must since you watched KD and your opinion matters to me a lot.

Loved your analysis. Thank god you watched it.

The episode really stands out ..

On twitter also I found many who loved the episode.

Felt like writers finally did some homework 😃 Thanks! I loved it.

Usha , you are from andhra❤️

Originally posted by: Rdigest

well written Pooja for a creepy episode 🙏

Not much to analyze today but thank goodness for small mercies like Virat being crystal clear today and telling pakho what we had was never love and love is what I have with Sai, then asking her to not cross limit when she was comparing herself to Sai again 🙏

Pakhi just this word is making me want to 🤮. She is unbelievably creepy and disgusting that I can't find anymore synonyms to describe her. From the moment Virat entered she was literally trying to ease him into something she was hoping she would achieve from the coffee date. Can't right more than this since IF doesnt allow 🤬 . Now I see why she was so confidently telling Sai the room and Virat is all yours . She truly thought the date would lead to something and she will get to seduce Virat and he will be all hers 🤮 and then kick Sai out.

I agree with you is a sexual harasser and So many scenes which were unacceptable and down right gross and lustful

- her trying to touch him in the pretext of checking his temperature

- trying to touch him saying do you not recall anything we had

- holding his hand forcefully when he was about to leave (by the way if this was a man holding a woman's hand all the people shown sitting there would have got up to beat up the guy for harassing her )

- her not only comparing herself to Sai but saying what do you see in her that I don't have , this was gross 🤢.

- don't you recall what all we felt during the yoga trip , how can you forget all that we had between us. You loved me when he is saying that was never love just friendship

- confessing how she married Samrat only to stay close to Virat

- I don't want to hear about your love for Sai, since she doesn't love you. But I love you🤮. So she is ok to be with a man or force him to be with her even if he loves someone else 🤬

- I will live anywhere, come anywhere with you and live in any condition. Just don't leave me I cannot live without you.

- I want to know what you want me to do since Samrat asked me to take a decision since we love eachother and have feelings for eachother 🤬.

I may have missed some more creepy dialogues since it was hard to catch up with didis speed of spitting out disgusting s**** dialogues 🤢

And to the makers if you are are reading this. You are not only delusions you are also normalizing sexual harassment and you need to stop this nonsense. Where in today's episode did it feel like she wanted to move on in all those dialogues of her asking for EMA from Virat unless you and the audience are watching different versions of the same show. Pakhi is a sexual abuser and don't call her a victim. STOP and NO means STOP and NO be it for a man or for a woman. She crossed all lines of decency earlier aswell as today that too in public. Finally stop making Virat holding her hand when she keeps on confessing her creepy love and abusing Sai infront for Virat. This throws a bad light on Virat.

👏👏 I agree 100 percent.. the worst part is an IPS officer tolerating such behavior and calling her his friend..

Makers please stop this madness. It’s a reputed profession, please don’t make a mockery out of it by showing this guy tolerating his vahini’s Ema advances.. don’t show him abusing his 19 yr old wife.. don’t show him as a useless bystander when his family abuse his wife.. 🙏

And now coming to Pakhi...I did feel bad for her initially because she is genuinly stuck. Virat knows it. He asks her to give Samrat a chance. But what riles him up is her crosing the line with him. She is not wiling to listen. She nurtured the past so much that it made her a stalker, black mailer, and abuser.

Pakhi's redemption can only happen medically because it is beyond hands of ordinary people. She appeared as someone who needs help. If only she could listen to Virat, in the limits of their friendship , what he said would have made so much sense to her.

We could only hope!