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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: farheenbachani

I am not victim blaming Pallavi. Im blaming the scene itself. The choice of that scene. It was not logical. She knows there are two creepy men in the house. To come out in open while doing her sari pleat is not ok. She might have done that before but would u come out doing your pleats while someone in the house has made advances at you before? I dont even do sari pleats around my brother or brother in law let alone a stranger.

The writers did not use logic when creating that scene. That same scene might have worked had she been in the kitchen doing something and mandhar advanced on her etc as it woukd have flowed better with the situation.

Im not disagreeing with you, im saying the scene could have been different. The eay the scene was, the situation that presented was not logical. Nothing to do with Pallavi or the harrassment or anything of that sort.

different scene, agree. It served no purpose other than showing Raghav how evil Mandy is, but they already did the burning saree part this was unnecessary.


Again, you said that point about coming out with pleats. I get the point, it's same as women should not be out late as creepy men roam. But the reverse of that is -if you go out at late as a women you are at fault. That's wrong. Similarly if you say pals should have been more careful that just feed to wrong side. You support her as a human, feel for her, angry at Mandar, that's it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jalebiness

Anything you say it becomes Gender biased in this show. Where were these people when Pallavi allowed Raghav getting Shamed for Amruta's pregnancy?

Enjoy a Show and STOP BLAMING PPL BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LIKING A CHARACTER IN A CERTAIN TRACK.

No one wanted to see a Rape or molestation episode, No one wants that, People meant Pallavi (THE 'FICTION' CHARACTER) was acting Dumb and Totally Ignoring Her Husband for A Creep and since she wasn't listening to any logical reason the only thing that would have opened her eyes were him getting to his lowest, Which he did eventually.

Go and Blame the creatives, No one Trended ki Molestation dikhao ya creepiness dikhao. You Ppl had Faith on CVs jb ManVi scenes aa rahe the toh ab bhi rakho faith.

And These r the same people who r bashing Raghav calling him dumb and asking him to get prove against Mandar ?? Whyyyyy ?? Why can't A Woman stand up for herself ? Ab kyu sochna ki Aurat ko Mard ki zarurat hai🤪

Har chiz me gender ghusa denge.

Raghav is also playing as per the script like Pallavi was doing, Itne understanding ho toh Raghav ko bhi understand karo.

It's not his job to clear Deshmukh's sh** all the time.


And Again, I am not BLAMING OR SHAMING PALLAVI. That was a Track in which she behaved dumb and got bashed, now the track has moved on and People will eventually forget everything, next track if Raghav gets butchered he will get the bashing, You do not need to make 100s of post targeting members personally and Judging them saying they wanted Molestation. Seriously ??


Also, The people who understood TRP so much that Pallavi Mandu ka hug n all TRP layega so the Comic Relief is also for TRP not everyone wants to watch Hypertension show everytime.

This out of the way, and character butchering was the only thing people were discussing when the track made Pallavi a scape goat.

Okay. So honestly Pallavi was being very dumb initially in the Mandhaar track. I agree. I'm just saying today it wasn't her fault. Coming to abortion track, I didn't like Pallavi in that track at all. I will not justify what she did there. I also don't expect Raghav to solve all her problems. Right now she of course needs his help and he is trying to help her. I personally am neither Raghav fan nor Pallavi. All my point was that let's not say Pallavi was at fault for being harassed because she was stupid or couldn't defend herself because I've heard similar things said to people in real life who had faced a similar situation. Id mind some comic relief because comedy gets TRP but I wouldn't like seeing such a scene when the genders were reversed. Attraction is ok but saying hot chai is ehh. There are better ways of bringing comedic relief like initial days telugu vs marathi, kaka being dumb, sulo being dumb or somethings like that.

Edited by hapc - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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A woman should be allowed to dress as she please or go out alone late at night. She does have that right. But unfortunately in this world to survive you have to be careful cos Many woman lost their lives or were raped for excercising that right. Unfortunately You cannot control creeps n pedophyles out there. Likewise Pallavi should think twice b4 doing anything in Dhouse. She never had her personal space there even without Mandar there. How stupid to volunteer to cook wen u know u will b the only one in the kitchen. With creepy crawly walking around waiting to pounce on you. He stood still while her sari was on fire but came to help her pleat it. She could have yelled abt that. Everyone saw. He wouldn’t have got suspicious. He would have just thought she is miffed with him.

Edited by Cinderella100 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

different scene, agree. It served no purpose other than showing Raghav how evil Mandy is, but they already did the burning saree part this was unnecessary.


Again, you said that point about coming out with pleats. I get the point, it's same as women should not be out late as creepy men roam. But the reverse of that is -if you go out at late as a women you are at fault. That's wrong. Similarly if you say pals should have been more careful that just feed to wrong side. You support her as a human, feel for her, angry at Mandar, that's it.

Totally get your point about women being outside late when there is creeps around but you are vigilant and prepared when u go. Make sure you’re with a group of people, have a phone, maybe pepper spray etc. Bottom line is you are careful. That’s all.

My stance is the scene should have been different if they wanted to show mandhar creepy like we dont already know he is creepy. There was no logic to it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cinderella100

A woman should be allowed to dress as she please or go out alone late at night. She does have that right. But unfortunately in this world to survive you have to be careful cos Many woman lost their lives or were raped for excercising that right. Unfortunately You cannot control creeps n pedophyles out there. Likewise Pallavi should think twice b4 doing anything in Dhouse. She never had her personal space there even without Mandar there. How stupid to volunteer to cook wen u know u will b the only one in the kitchen. With creepy crawly walking around waiting to pounce on you. He stood still while her sari was on fire but came to help her pleat it. She could have yelled abt that. Everyone saw. He wouldn’t have got suspicious. He would have just thought she is miffed with him.

Agree totally! When you’re out amongst creeps, yes u can dress however u like but we cannot control what those creeps do so we have to be careful. Bottom line is being careful and vigilant. Be prepared. So when u go out u have your phone, make sure you’re with a friend or group of people and if you’re alone then have some sort of defence ready like pepper spray etc.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: hapc

Okay. So honestly Pallavi was being very dumb initially in the Mandhaar track. I agree. I'm just saying today it wasn't her fault. Coming to abortion track, I didn't like Pallavi in that track at all. I will not justify what she did there. I also don't expect Raghav to solve all her problems. Right now she of course needs his help and he is trying to help her. I personally am neither Raghav fan nor Pallavi. All my point was that let's not say Pallavi was at fault for being harassed because she was stupid or couldn't defend herself because I've heard similar things said to people in real life who had faced a similar situation. Id mind some comic relief because comedy gets TRP but I wouldn't like seeing such a scene when the genders were reversed. Attraction is ok but saying hot chai is ehh. There are better ways of bringing comedic relief like initial days telugu vs marathi, kaka being dumb, sulo being dumb or somethings like that.

It's definitely worst but You know how ITV works. We need to put our concerns to The CV's for sure. They should understand it's 2021, these jokes doesn't seem funny anymore especially from someone who will probably be a Chachi Saas to Raghav

Other than that, the post wasn't targeted to you neither what happened today in the episode was Pallavi's fault.

Pallavi doing her saree out of bathroom 'can' be a minute discussion but You cannot Blame her neither her reaction was something to get bashed because obviously they had to show Raghav intervening and helping, had Pallavi helped herself out the 'TRP' audience for that matter would have been disappointed, that's how ITV has worked.

People gets sad if the Heroine or even the hero gets saved without each other's help. So there r Normal things. And we SHOULD NOT ever compare such scenes with 'Reality'. Because YOU CAN NEVER ACT NORMAL WITH SOMEONE WHO TRIED TO GET CLOSE TO YOU IN THAT WAY. Neither Mandar or anyone faces any kind of punishment for such acts.

Still I m thankful they kept it that much only. ITV Ppl doesn't show One case where the molestor getting punished which is why I don't appreciate ppl linking it to real incident, because in reality a Victim takes many days to come out of that trauma let alone facing the #₹-hol-₹ again..

And they showed the scene naturally where Pallavi was shocked to react any way.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jalebiness

It's definitely worst but You know how ITV works. We need to put our concerns to The CV's for sure. They should understand it's 2021, these jokes doesn't seem funny anymore especially from someone who will probably be a Chachi Saas to Raghav

Other than that, the post wasn't targeted to you neither what happened today in the episode was Pallavi's fault.

Pallavi doing her saree out of bathroom 'can' be a minute discussion but You cannot Blame her neither her reaction was something to get bashed because obviously they had to show Raghav intervening and helping, had Pallavi helped herself out the 'TRP' audience for that matter would have been disappointed, that's how ITV has worked.

People gets sad if the Heroine or even the hero gets saved without each other's help. So there r Normal things. And we SHOULD NOT ever compare such scenes with 'Reality'. Because YOU CAN NEVER ACT NORMAL WITH SOMEONE WHO TRIED TO GET CLOSE TO YOU IN THAT WAY. Neither Mandar or anyone faces any kind of punishment for such acts.

Still I m thankful they kept it that much only. ITV Ppl doesn't show One case where the molestor getting punished which is why I don't appreciate ppl linking it to real incident, because in reality a Victim takes many days to come out of that trauma let alone facing the #₹-hol-₹ again..

And they showed the scene naturally where Pallavi was shocked to react any way.

You raise a fair point about comparing reality to an ITV show. Seeing how the show dealt with Keerthi's photographs, I don't expect them to do justice to such a matter as well.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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It’s unfortunate if the actors are getting bashed and it’s much worse to say Pallavi deserves this coz no woman deserves harassment..no woman deserves to be touched without her consent not even women indulging in sex trade…and this is the biggest issue with this track…right from the beginning Mandar has been shown touching pallavi multiple times under the pretext of holding her hand, dropping chai, hugging her, lifting her, she was shown getting uncomfortable but never PROTESTING…that is biggest issue with the character development…when a man tries to touch a women without her consent Protesting comes naturally to her…initially she was shown ignoring it and now absolutely helpless & weak while just yesterday she was shown brandishing a knife at Swapnil…


It’s one thing for a man to overpower a woman physically and it’s a completely another thing for a woman to stand there frozen and helpless while a man tries to breach her privacy…the entire scene was so disturbing at multiple levels…how does Pallavi saying all those dialogues while burning Mandar’s photo or her fierce retaliation to Swapnil even makes sense after today’s episode…on one hand they show her outsmart Mandar and even assure Raghav as how to deal with him, threaten Swapnil with a knife and next day she is shown helpless..There is no consistency in the way they are writing her character..


If their intent was to show Raghav as a hero..the scene fell flat…Mandar came out more stronger out of all the three…


And the way they are shooting Mandar’s creepy behavior explicitly is only triggering the viewers…a man trying to touch a women against her will itself is quite disturbing to phantom and these guys going overboard with massaging & today scene is only making it worse for the viewers…The team needs to tone down emphasizing on Mandar being creepy… that’s what we are watching from day one of this track…no one is sitting here to feel disgusted in every episode.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Totally agree with you. Makers kya dikhana chahte hain kuch samjh nahi a raha raghav ka character bhi suddenly change kar diya i mean ok he loves pallavi but how he acts nowadays doesn,t make sense. Kuch to character ka dhyan rakho lagta hi nahi ye wohi raghav hai starting se use itna maturely act karte dikhaya hai but now he acts like kids.

In yesterday's epi wo Rama ke samne pallavi ke sath jaise behave kar raha tha or that flying kiss karna I dont like that raghav jo always apne servants ke sath limit me reh kar baat karta hai wo ab rama ke sath apni wife ki cuteness ke bare mein baat kar raha hai ok wo post marriage pallavi ke sath change hua hai but wo pallavi ke liye hi tha with others he always remain old raghav.

Pallavi ka character to mandar track se hi samjh nahi a raha kuch bhi logic nahi hai current track mein

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