Any Afganis here? - Page 24

Originally posted by: Zeal17

They definitely are power hungry and wont stop with Afghanistan. Pakistan will be likely their next target. For once lets believe Taliban leader Baradar was captured in Pakistan and was tortured in Jail.. wouldn't he want to take revenge.

Although I don't think he was captured more like was living in safe haven in Pakistan.

I was under the impression that most of these Talibans are actually coming from Pakistan and after taking over Afghanistan, they’ll aim to target India. That’s also what is being spread on social media. A stable Afghanistan and stable India is a threat to Pakistani government.

I shared a link in my initial post. Have a watch and tell me your thoughts.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSZra_HlWeU/?utm_medium=copy_link

Originally posted by: GreatDee

Its important to speak up about the menace at every plateform and call out bigotry of any kind. Even tgose who are well versed in practicing taqiya should be called out for their questionable behaviour ans stand when it cones to human crisis.

You are been seen enough and understood enough for me to question you. I dont care what other members think of you. I have seen you want indians to forget atrocities of taimurs, jahangirs etc and only remember these names for their cuteness ..am i right or wrong?

And you want me to believe that you are not for taliban here? I mean werent those people taliban of their times? Lol

Wouldnt it make you look fake n liar claiming you dont support current taliban when you had no issues associating your kids with past talibanis such as tamiur?😆

LMFAO

Oh Jesus, so it is personal after all. 😆 Kareena and Saif got what they wanted - publicity. I simply pointed out that for me names hold no meaning, it’s the person itself who should be held accountable. I don’t know about Indian history nor who Taimur or Jehangir even is.

My opinion was based on the fact that any person can share the same name, it doesn’t mean they’ll behave the same. It wasn’t like I was fighting for my life in that thread. I listened to other perspectives and agreed with their POV. In fact the thread was divided with these opinions, does that mean all those people are terrorist supporters too?

You claim that this isn’t personal but you’ve followed and held a grudge against me over Kareena Kapoor’s babies name and now this?

Go to sleep and stop thinking too much. It’s starting to get to you. 😆🤗

Originally posted by: FingerFetish

I was under the impression that most of these Talibans are actually coming from Pakistan and after taking over Afghanistan, they’ll aim to target India. That’s also what is being spread on social media. A stable Afghanistan and stable India is a threat to Pakistani government.

I shared a link in my initial post. Have a watch and tell me your thoughts.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSZra_HlWeU/?utm_medium=copy_link

Talibanis were supported and funded by the ISI. The have this ulterior motive by making Afghanistan dependent on them through Talibanism. Plus in future they wont to club together mess with India and try to take Kashmir.

I agree with all the points said in the video. Nothing can be disputed in it. US and Pakistan together created Taliban to fight Soviet. But in a way created a monster who welcomed all support to further their agenda. US does that every time. There is long list of countries suffering because of US UK Saudi Arabia.. and yet we are made to believe China Russia are the villains. Even if they are at least they aren't pretending to be saints.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Talibanis were supported and funded by the ISI. The have this ulterior motive by making Afghanistan dependent on them through Talibanism. Plus in future they wont to club together mess with India and try to take Kashmir.

I agree with all the points said in the video. Nothing can be disputed in it. US and Pakistan together created Taliban to fight Soviet. But in a way created a monster who welcomed all support to further their agenda. US does that every time. There is long list of countries suffering because of US UK Saudi Arabia.. and yet we are made to believe China Russia are the villains. Even if they are at least they aren't pretending to be saints.

1. Taliban was formed in the 90s after Soviet Union was destroyed and U.S. withdrew from Afghanistan U.S. meddling in Afghanistan happened 10 years prior. Taliban happened AFTER U.S. left.

2. China and Russia ARE interfering in Central Asia and Africa and Middle East. See: Syria and Iran. You think they're just fine people? Ask the Chechens or the North Koreans.

You hear the pleas for the world to do something in Afgjanistan? When the world, which basically means U.S. spending money and blood, does something now, 20 years later, it is called interference. Why would regular American parents send their kids to fight then?

Not saying the U.S. hasn't meddled, but what you're doing is conflating 2 things to malign a nation.

Originally posted by: GreatDee

Lol, kuch bhi

How is it personal?

There is no grudge my dear. I am only questioning your hipocrisy and stand concerning taliban of different times. You can claim to be ignorant of indian history but these people are as much part of afghan history as they are of indian. I have no issues with you on personal basis. Its just your stand is inconsistant of what you are claiminh to be. I can clearly see fakeness and want yo call it out. We have nothing in common otherwise for me to discuss with you or hold grudge against as you would like to believe. We are in debate mention which provides us a plateform to counter eavh other's views. There is nothing personal here, dear!😆

She earlier wrote this:

My family fled from Afghanistan because of the Taliban. My cousins were murdered because of the Taliban. My cousin committed suicide because of the Taliban.

Do you really think a person who wrote this would support or go soft on Taliban? I would have ended argument long back and not reply any further.

💔

https://twitter.com/jaglancy/status/1426878440838508547?s=20

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

1. Taliban was formed in the 90s after Soviet Union was destroyed and U.S. withdrew from Afghanistan U.S. meddling in Afghanistan happened 10 years prior. Taliban happened AFTER U.S. left.

Sorry to use Wikipedia for it but this is what mentioned over there :

Pakistan's President Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq feared that the Soviets were planning to also invade Balochistan, Pakistan, so he sent Akhtar Abdur Rahman to Saudi Arabia to garner support for the Afghan resistance against Soviet occupation forces. A while later, the US CIA and Saudi Arabian General Intelligence Directorate (GID) funnelled funding and equipment through the Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence Agency (ISI) to the Afghan mujahideen.[112]

About 90,000 Afghans, including Mohammed Omar, were trained by Pakistan's ISI during the 1980s.[112] British professor Carole Hillenbrand concluded that the Taliban have arisen from those US-Saudi-Pakistan-supported mujahideen: "The West helped the Taliban to fight the Soviet takeover of Afghanistan".[113] Nearly all of the Taliban's original leadership previously fought in the Soviet-Afghan War.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Sorry to use Wikipedia for it but this is what mentioned over there :

Pakistan's President Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq feared that the Soviets were planning to also invade Balochistan, Pakistan, so he sent Akhtar Abdur Rahman to Saudi Arabia to garner support for the Afghan resistance against Soviet occupation forces. A while later, the US CIA and Saudi Arabian General Intelligence Directorate (GID) funnelled funding and equipment through the Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence Agency (ISI) to the Afghan mujahideen.[112]

About 90,000 Afghans, including Mohammed Omar, were trained by Pakistan's ISI during the 1980s.[112] British professor Carole Hillenbrand concluded that the Taliban have arisen from those US-Saudi-Pakistan-supported mujahideen: "The West helped the Taliban to fight the Soviet takeover of Afghanistan".[113] Nearly all of the Taliban's original leadership previously fought in the Soviet-Afghan War.

Wikipedia would be laughed out of the room.

Even so, Taliban coming from same people is not even close to the same as Taliban funded by the U.S.

The U.S. left Afghanistan after Soviets were done and Kuwait war started. Taliban was formed in the decade after. A lot of the same people joined them. How does that make the U.S. responsible for Taliban?

What you're claiming is akin to saying an employee who embezzled from Bank B was trained by Bank A because he worked for Bank A previously.

It is always convenient and easy to bash the U.S. because the population will still somehow agree to send their kids to fight for other people. Try doing that with Russia or China. Actually, ask a few people (not governments) who they'd rather have with them in a crisis. Russia or China or the terrible, no good U.S.

Originally posted by: GreatDee

Lol, kuch bhi

How is it personal?

There is no grudge my dear. I am only questioning your hipocrisy and stand concerning taliban of different times. You can claim to be ignorant of indian history but these people are as much part of afghan history as they are of indian. I have no issues with you on personal basis. Its just your stand is inconsistant of what you are claiminh to be. I can clearly see fakeness and want yo call it out. We have nothing in common otherwise for me to discuss with you or hold grudge against as you would like to believe. We are in debate mention which provides us a plateform to counter eavh other's views. There is nothing personal here, dear!😆

There is no claim. I wasn’t born in Afghanistan nor have I visited the country. I’m not well versed in any history barring general knowledge. My history lessons of India is limited to Bollywood movies. The only people I know is Ashok & Akbar (that also because of movies). You’re giving me far more credit than my own history teacher ever gave me. Should have gotten you to review my assignments instead :(

This post was made in BWF but got moved to the debate mansion. This isn’t a Pakistani forum where there’s room to even debate the issue. We’re all in agreement with the crisis.

Okay dear if there is nothing personal then why couldn’t you quote me using your real account? You haven’t answered that question dear. 😔

Originally posted by: GreatDee

Her first post was in support of taliban. Thats all that matters. I dont care what she wrote thereafter. Clearly she is very good at practicing taqiya which very many kuffars are not aware of 😆

Ideally I would have asked for the link of her post where she supported taliban. But knowing that she and her family has suffered because of Taliban Its hard to believe she would have made any such post. Maybe you understood her post wrongly.