More heartbreak - Page 5

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

In a twisted way, Samrat will be the person who Sai needs. He is perhaps the only one who can understand her pain. Their situations are worlds a part, but at the end of the day, both of them feel like third wheels in the stories of those they love. Yes, this will create misunderstandings in Sai's head, but once Samrat realizes how different Virat and Sai's relationship is to his and Pakhi's, he will be able to push Sai to accept both her's and Virat's feelings.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Both are men, sunny and mohit. And Sunny knows Virat in and out, his feelings and all. Mohit only gauges from outside. So in that perspective they see Virat's love clearly and are confused why Sai is not able to get it. Sai needs a woman to understand her. I am sure Aai will understand her better. If only she could discuss things with her. I am sure Aai is matured enough to objectively advice her, as a mother and not a mother in law.

Sai's situation is complex and Virat's past is complex. And Aai knows virat well. Aai knows the insecurities of being sidelined in the presence of another woman(I believe ninad-kaku relation is not indecent). She loves both Virat and Sai. So she can guide her, without bringing her emotions for Virat into the picture.

Originally posted by: tptwi

Loved reading your take as always! ❤️

So my understanding was that once Sunny clears up the commitment issue to Sai, she asks Virat if that is the case, why is Pakhi still waiting for him? Sai is going based off of what she has seen. Pakhi creates tamashas, declares her love for Virat in front of the entire family, stands outside of their room in the middle of the night crying that Virat has shattered her dreams. In Sai's mind, why would Pakhi be doing any of this if she did not have some eternal love story with Virat? Sai feels as though she has come in between Virat and Pakhi's story. Virat has never clarified any of this to her....ever. This was also reaffirmed in her monologue when she says that Virat has never told Pakhi that she doesn't mean anything to him... which we know is not the case, but all of their confrontations have happened when Sai was not around. Although Virat has defended Sai in front of Pakhi, he has never really put her in her place in front of Sai. Pakhi is the only one from whom Sai has heard about the past... Virat has never explained it to her... so, Pakhi's words are really all she has to go off of at this point. Yes, Virat has said that he is not committed to Pakhi anymore, but what beyond that has he said to Sai? I am not defending Sai's ruthlessness. Today, her words crossed every line. They stabbed Virat 100 times over. But, just like Virat says things without thinking in his pain and impulses, so does Sai. So I understood where she was coming from. The reason why Sai was targeting Virat in all of this and not questioning Pakhi was because Virat is the one who has hurt her. She could care less what Pakhi does if Virat had clarified all of this to her to begin with. She is not going to blame Pakhi or even question her motives, because that does not matter to her... what matters to her is Virat. Like you mentioned, she had a desperate look on her face for Virat to tell her otherwise about Pakhi, but Virat was so broken and shocked that he could not even find the words to counter what she was saying.

All of Sai's pain came pouring out today...everything she had been holding in, she said. You bring up 100% valid points about Pakhi's role in this entire mess, but again, Sai was not thinking rationally. She was taking out all of her pain and frustration on Virat, because he is the one she is pained by! He is the one she is in love with!

@ bold I really hope and wish this is true once the haze clears up and she shows Pakhi the door for once and for all.

@italic sympathy towards Pakhi bothers me to no end even if she is family. This is not healthy for Sai to keep sympathizing her abuser even if she think she is wronged by Virat. She did not wrong her in any way and her marriage to Virat happened much later. Even if she wasnt there what exactly would have happened 🙄.

This to me seems like an after effect of living with the abuser and finally starting to sympathize with them. Reminds me of victims of sexual abuse who blame themselves or Stockholm syndrome where the abused becomes sympathetic towards the abuser.

Tagging Pooja and Sadiltl since both of you said the same about why Sai only called out Virat and not Pakhi. You managed to convince me that she kind of feels the haq on Virat so she is only calling him out and doesn't care about Pakhi.

Originally posted by: tptwi

In a twisted way, Samrat will be the person who Sai needs. He is perhaps the only one who can understand her pain. Their situations are worlds a part, but at the end of the day, both of them feel like third wheels in the stories of those they love. Yes, this will create misunderstandings in Sai's head, but once Samrat realizes how different Virat and Sai's relationship is to his and Pakhi's, he will be able to push Sai to accept both her's and Virat's feelings.

Yeah I forgot about him. Yes he could be the one, 👍🏼

Originally posted by: Rdigest

@ bold I really hope and wish this is true once the haze clears up and she shows Pakhi the door for once and for all.

@italic sympathy towards Pakhi bothers me to no end even if she is family. This is not healthy for Sai to keep sympathizing her abuser even if she think she is wronged by Virat. She did not wrong her in any way and her marriage to Virat happened much later. Even if she wasnt there what exactly would have happened 🙄.

This to me seems like an after effect of living with the abuser and finally starting to sympathize with them. Reminds me of victims of sexual abuse who blame themselves or Stockholm syndrome where the abused becomes sympathetic towards the abuser.

Tagging Pooja and Sadiltl since both of you said the same about why Sai only called out Virat and not Pakhi. You managed to convince me that she kind of feels the haq on Virat so she is only calling him out and doesn't care about Pakhi.

No no I called her family because, in joint families, it is difficult to call out people. Sai is now in the phase of gaining family's side, so she will not confront pakhi.

The reason she will think as third person again, is not for pakhi, but for Virat. She thinks only Pakhi makes Virat happy.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

@ bold I really hope and wish this is true once the haze clears up and she shows Pakhi the door for once and for all.

@italic sympathy towards Pakhi bothers me to no end even if she is family. This is not healthy for Sai to keep sympathizing her abuser even if she think she is wronged by Virat. She did not wrong her in any way and her marriage to Virat happened much later. Even if she wasnt there what exactly would have happened 🙄.

This to me seems like an after effect of living with the abuser and finally starting to sympathize with them. Reminds me of victims of sexual abuse who blame themselves or Stockholm syndrome where the abused becomes sympathetic towards the abuser.

Tagging Pooja and Sadiltl since both of you said the same about why Sai only called out Virat and not Pakhi. You managed to convince me that she kind of feels the haq on Virat so she is only calling him out and doesn't care about Pakhi.

Sai feels for Kaku, Ninand, Omi, Pakhi...literally everyone who has abused her over and over again... quite literally every single day. More than bothering me, it breaks my heart for her. She values family above all else, whether that be because these people are extensions or Virat and/or she desperately seeks to belong (I think it's both), and she is willing to look past everything they have done to hurt her....

Also in terms of family... they are living in a joint family, and Sai has started to learn and accept those rules too...

Why am I not able to tag? Trying again...

Originally posted by sadiltl

Lets keep KD aside, I liked the episode because the way writers handled the anniversary track. They placed the Virats fake story (how ever dumb it is!) and yoga teacher aptly so it looks like, to me atleast that Sai's outburst is mostly exacerbated due to these two incidents.

Yes she is confused, she wanted more verbal assertion but imagine if the two incidents did not happen, Would sai be so mad as she was today?...I dont think so. More than yoga teacher crap, Virat's story had upset her the most. It has opened her the box of insecurites which I think she had sealed after the accident patchup. I am sure if not for these two incidents, she would have been happy for the surprise and virat would have confessed and everything would have ended well.

I don't believe she would have been happy. She would still have been alarmed and freaked out. She might not have been as harsh as she was if not for these incidents. But definitely not happy. She needs verbal clarification from Virat.

But the fate has some more suffering in the store for them. One good thing is Sai has spit out everything. She acknowledged there are issues with all these things. Only when you understand the root cause, you will try to solve it. While solving her questions, she will find answers.

Virat would have definitely confessed if she had reacted positively. It was the right moment. But now he will take few steps back. He always had doubts about Sai loving him as a life partner. Today her words will be taken by 'insecure' part of Virat seriously. He will move away, which will help them. Virat has faced the fear of losing Sai to Ajinkya. Sai has to face the fear. when you are faced with your worst fears, you think instinctively what is needed for you to end it. NO additional garbage will interfere with your thought process.

PS: Today Sai did say some harsh words for which Virat deserves an apology, not for a husband but for her caretaker and friend who never crossed the line with her nor showed anything 'more' without her consent.

Yes. He deserves an apology. Sai was way too harsh.

AND LETS NOT DISCUSS KD. Yes i am saying this . Writers are giving us something different. Lets see! KD messes with our brains.

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Tagging two people whom it has always been most difficult to tag since their usernames are like passwords 😆 @tptwi @sadiltl

No worries I saw your responses. :)

hey call me Sadhika. I used that user name when I was hooked to 'laagi tujhse lagan' (ltl). hence sadiltl. :P wierd name na?

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Honestly it's too much on any woman to figure it all out on her own, without anybody at her side after the husband distances himself from her hereon..I am okay with the distancing part and not with her having to deal with it all alone ..with no sane person to advice her... This is too much on her...Her fear of rejection..her fear of self respect being crippled , is that not something that could be also the case..looking at it from her perspective..? Is that not something that is also natural just like Virat's is? On top of that Patralekha keeps adding a paragraph to a story she created about the love they had when she talks to Sai...How is she to gather that she is lying delusional..

"I don't believe she would have been happy. She would still have been alarmed and freaked out. She might not have been as harsh as she was if not for these incidents. But definitely not happy. She needs verbal clarification from Virat."

Could be. But I am thinking from writers PoV and the Sai we have in Ghum not Emon in KD. She was ready for a kiss one day before. She was enjoying the trip until the two incidents happened which threw her away (I was totally upset, imagine sai's situation). So I was thinking, without these 2 she would have been happy.