Last decade films that would be CANCELLED in today's political climate - Page 6

Originally posted by: Agent_Vinod

Dev

Firaaq

Parzania

Outright UAPA on even spotboys !

What BS.

Dev released in 2004.

Parzania released in 2007

Firaaq released in 2009.

These 3 were only banned for release in Gujarat. Parzania was released a year later in Gujarat too.

Who was in power in centre between 2004 and 2009.

I saw Dev in mumbai. It also won filmfare that year.

Who were the spot boys who got charged by UaPa. Who was arrested any names or proof.

Originally posted by: Chiillii

What BS.

Dev released in 2004.

Parzania released in 2007

Firaaq released in 2009.

These 3 were only banned for release in Gujarat. Parzania was released a year later in Gujarat too.

Who was in power in centre between 2004 and 2009.

I saw Dev in mumbai. It also won filmfare that year.

Who were the spot boys who got charged by UaPa. Who was arrested any names or proof.

I thought the topic asked a hypothetical qs. , no ?

And thanks for the data which only verified what was just hypothetically surmised towards the intolerance & falsehoods of this political regime , the gist of the discussion (than the rigidity of timeline)..

Originally posted by: Agent_Vinod

I thought the topic asked a hypothetical qs. , no ?

And thanks for the data which only verified what was just hypothetically surmised towards the intolerance & falsehoods of this political regime , the gist of the discussion (than the rigidity of timeline)..

Hypothesis is wrong. That somehow there are movies which if made today will not get released and it will be the current political party in power at centre which will prevent the release and arrest the makers of the movie. This is wrong hypothesis because the data says otherwise.

That is what the data says.

Unilateral action taken by central government

Kissa KurSi ka. - Maker arrested movie reels destroyed by Sanjay Gandhi

Andhi - Movie banned by Congress

Da Vinci Code - Banned for all India release

Troll action by left wing bigots

Bombay - bomb blasts at makers house. Movie banned at 4 states

Madras Cafe - Tamil Nadu, death threats for makers and actors. Movie not released in the state

These are not the only one and none of them have anything to do with current political party at the centre.

At the state level specifically in Gujarat movies on Gujarat riots have been banned to prevent law and order situation from getting out of control.

No movie makers ever arrested or threatened.

However Parzania was released after a year.

Most importantly only congress has arrested movie makers for producing movies criticising them.

The whole Topic is BS and fake fear mongering and nothing else.

Current Movie makers are hypocrites who actually create controversy by making provocative statements in media and try to take advantage of resulting controversy to publicise the movie.

They deserve the trolling they get. Eg. Saif Ali Khan speaking BS about Re interpreting the role of Ravana.

That is the typical baiting done for trolls and then when controversy erupts play the victim card

Anyways another set of elections are around so these type of nonsensical topics will become common again.

This forum never ceases to amaze me with its insane fear-mongering and dystopian fiction. Now I seriously think it's located in some parallel universe. 😆

I see people claiming that MNIK wouldn't have released under the BJP. Okay! Now let's refer to facts. Narendra Modi, the then Gujarat CM, helped KJo amid the furore against that film in his state. So much for the fascist RW regime preventing release. 🤡

https://youtu.be/Q1If8M_6A9Q

P.S. Carry on!

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Hypothesis is wrong. That somehow there are movies which if made today will not get released and it will be the current political party in power at centre which will prevent the release and arrest the makers of the movie. This is wrong hypothesis because the data says otherwise.

That is what the data says.

Unilateral action taken by central government

Kissa KurSi ka. - Maker arrested movie reels destroyed by Sanjay Gandhi

Andhi - Movie banned by Congress

Da Vinci Code - Banned for all India release

At the state level specifically in Gujarat movies on Gujarat riots have been banned to prevent law and order situation from getting out of control.

No movie makers ever arrested or threatened.

However Parzania was released after a year.

Most importantly only congress has arrested movie makers for producing movies criticising them.

Well , what was the pretext for executing such totalitarian actions for personal reasons ? Not one or the other writ of law just like 'law and order getting out of control' ? Just a plain custom clothing the bare whim (not a rocket science to comprehend this)..

And now , with 40+ years of intellect evolution,technological progresses & full system at their disposal , is arresting for artistic expression the only way now remaining for Prime Minister (& the coterie) to impose their writ who now also represents the largest democracy of the world on global platform & in the era of globalisation & free market (& hence spending huge resources on PR just to craft some 'howdy' image of being democratic & liberal ) ?

So much naivety ? Or is this an expat ? Do I even need to waste my time in penning down another set of unilateral data ?

Well just in nutshell no one can now think of theatrically making such movies , you know 'dosti na toote' (for naives - many things may break otherwise in this times & age since at the end of the day , most are frail humans even the 'liberandus'/systematically persecuted artists)..

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Troll action by left wing bigots

Bombay - bomb blasts at makers house. Movie banned at 4 states

Madras Cafe - Tamil Nadu, death threats for makers and actors. Movie not released in the state

Nothing surprising (as well as cheery for sane) that the benchmark set for the current head of the largest democracy is nothing but a set of totalitarians , anarchists & criminals ! Ok fine , supreme leader of India is better (if this makes some sigh :)..

Originally posted by: Agent_Vinod

Nothing surprising (as well as cheery for sane) that the benchmark set for the current head of the largest democracy is nothing but a set of totalitarians , anarchists & criminals ! Ok fine , supreme leader of India is better (if this makes some sigh :)..

Who cares about your nonsensical adjectives.

Truth is current Prime Minister is the Supreme leader and entitled to his coterie by the will of the majority of India. And he will remain so till majority of India wills him to be. He has the mandate to act as per the parliamentary democracy in India and we have courts to go to for those who feel he is abusing the law.

It's always the people of India who decide by majority vote what is acceptable and what is not. Your rants make no difference.

The people of India decide the benchmarks. As of today the Supreme leader chosen matches the benchmarks set by them. If he falls from that they will vote him out. Only those benchmarks whatever they are matter. Others dont

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Who cares about your nonsensical adjectives.

Truth is current Prime Minister is the Supreme leader and entitled to his coterie by the will of the majority of India. And he will remain so till majority of India wills him to be. He has the mandate to act as per the parliamentary democracy in India and we have courts to go to for those who feel he is abusing the law.

It's always the people of India who decide by majority vote what is acceptable and what is not. Your rants make no difference.

The people of India decide the benchmarks. As of today the Supreme leader chosen matches the benchmarks set by them. If he falls from that they will vote him out. Only those benchmarks whatever they are matter. Others dont

Right from 2002 to 2019 , what voted him in ? Discerning and progressive intellect ? Or deliberately provoked violent passions (to put it mildly) further beguiled by fake narrative of development ?

You will reap what you sow , be it a single individual or whole mankind lest majority (isn't that Hinduism teaches you) ? Keeping aside unsettling innuendos for now (which are already obvious around) , even the less coarse signs are severely bruised economy, record unemployment,oil prices,inflation..Above all of it , record brain drain :

Originally posted by: Agent_Vinod

Right from 2002 to 2019 , what voted him in ? Discerning and progressive intellect ? Or deliberately provoked violent passions (to put it mildly) further beguiled by fake narrative of development ?

You will reap what you sow , be it a single individual or whole mankind lest majority (isn't that Hinduism teaches you) ? Keeping aside unsettling innuendos for now (which are already obvious around) , even the less coarse signs are severely bruised economy, record unemployment,oil prices,inflation..Above all of it , record brain drain :

India has a population of 130 crore people of which some 50 percent vote in the elections

That's nearly 65 crore people we are talking about.

Wow you are really must be Lord Almighty that you are able to know what guided each of those persons'choice of vote.

I only know of five people who they voted for and why in 2014. All 5 have voted a different party than the one they voted for in 2009

I voted for the party that linked Adhaar to passport so I didn't have to pay a single penny to the constable as bribe or an agent as commission to get what rightfully belonged to me and it came to my home in month's time just as promised.

My Maid voted for the party that finally got her name registered for gas cylinder and delivered the cylinder to her home

My neighbour voted for the party that did not order demonetisation because he lost 40 percent of his undisclosed black money in paying commissions to bank officials who changed his black money to new currency

I also know about my Parents, they voted Nota because they did not like any of the candidates listed on the ballot box. They are old school types who expected candidate to come to their door and explain what his plans for the constituency was if elected. Since the major parties didn't find them important enough this time to visit they chose Nota as protest.

So I know atleast of 4 people who didnt care about any communal reasons to vote

And I am humble enough to know that of the 65 crore people who vote many have perfectly fine brains and also know how to use them for their own self interest.

Promises and sloganeering and manifestoes, agendas of right-wing development of liberal values etc don't mean anything to them, what matters is their everyday lives. If a party makes their everyday life easy it will get voted to power artistic freedom of expression and social media secularism rants be damned.

And if a party in power makes their everyday life hard it will be voted out, no matter how liberal, secular pro development it is.

Current political dispensation does not seem like having a third chance but not because they are right wing or anti freedom of expression but because they may have in their stupidity made most of those 65 crore people life hard during Covid.

Whether it goes and a liberal pro development agenda card bearing party comes to power doesn't matter.

If someone makes a movie on a controversial issues there will be protests. If state governments are unable to control the protestors the movies will be banned. As it has happened always. It's not going to change

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Who cares about your nonsensical adjectives.

Truth is current Prime Minister is the Supreme leader and entitled to his coterie by the will of the majority of India. And he will remain so till majority of India wills him to be. He has the mandate to act as per the parliamentary democracy in India and we have courts to go to for those who feel he is abusing the law.

It's always the people of India who decide by majority vote what is acceptable and what is not. Your rants make no difference.

The people of India decide the benchmarks. As of today the Supreme leader chosen matches the benchmarks set by them. If he falls from that they will vote him out. Only those benchmarks whatever they are matter. Others dont

@Bold: NOT true. 37% of the voters only voted for him. which my no means is majority!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Indian_general_election

https://theprint.in/opinion/a-government-of-the-38-people-by-38-of-the-people-for-38-of-the-people/572504/

Originally posted by: cutejodikangal

@Bold: NOT true. 37% of the voters only voted for him. which my no means is majority!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Indian_general_election

https://theprint.in/opinion/a-government-of-the-38-people-by-38-of-the-people-for-38-of-the-people/572504/

India follows first past the post system. BJP recieved 38% and NDA with Narendra Modi as PM candidate won 45% votes out of the 67% percent of eligible voters who actually cared to vote. While the closest rival only recieved 19%

33% of people who didn't participate abstained their choice from the electoral process, their absence makes them irrelevant. If they wanted their opinion to be counted they should have voted. Since they didn't their opinion whatever it may have been doesn't count

For the people who voted the 67%, their opinion matters

38% voted BJP. That is 56% percent of those who voted. That is clear majority.

In absolute seat numbers too 303 representatives from BJP have been elected. That is legislative majority.

You can crib all you want but till 2024 He is the Supreme leader of the majority who chose to vote.

It remains to be seen post Covid what happens in 2024.

But till then he is the majority leader by Law.