Episode spoiler - 14 June 2021 - Page 14

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Yup..I can see what you'r saying and I somewhat agree. Amma on her part, can only forgive Raghav and free herself and Raghav of the baggage of blame and guilt they have been carrying for so many years. But Keerthi's resentment runs deeper in my opinion.. Coz Amma no matter how much she punishes Raghav, at the end of the day she is still a mother.. She will never be able to give bad-dua to her own son.. also, deep down she must know that what Raghav did was not intentional.. But Keerthi was so young..too young to not take things on face value.. For her Raghav is the man because of whom she lost her family and any chance at having a normal,happy childhood, a normal life so for her its that much more hard.. Keerthi and Raghav will have to sort their issue independent of Amma.. ur right because now they are grown ups but maybe things could have been different had Amma been able to let go after a point and not drag this for so long.. Keerthi was too young to process a lot of things apart from the fact that she lost her naana and lil brother.. she saw everything through Amma's eyes because Raghav wasnt there so in a way Amma is responsible for how strongly she resents Raghav.. If Amma is able to forgive Raghav that'l not only lift a huge burden off of their chests but also give Raghav the confidence and security to deal with Keerthi the right way..

@bold, and this is what Raghav told her the other day, that if she forgave him it would help bring down that wall and prevent further misunderstandings. I actually feel the key to all this is not dealing with Raghav's trauma, but Amma's. She hasn't been able to talk to anyone, and after leaving their village, she probably lost touch with all relatives, neighbors, and friends. She's just as lonely as her kids are.

A lot of Keerti's resentment of Raghav is based on Amma's bitterness and resentment so if she's able to let go of it, I think eventually Keerti will be able to as well. No matter how angry she is, I know she loves Raghav a lot and has been deprived of the affection he could have given her as a brother all these years.

I think back to the Abhi mujh mein kahin moment in Agneepath. That never came in Raghav and Keerti's lives. He never got to openly dote on her, to show her how important she is in his life. She in turn never got to just be a kid who was pampered by her elder brother, because I feel over the years she's borne the brunt of Amma's mental and physical health issues and in effect probably had to be Amma's caretaker from a young age.

Originally posted by: Diya2021

@bold can’t blame him for now. She wasn’t ranting, for me she was hysterical & a person at a time like this can’t think through normally. No words can get through her right now. All he did now with her was to try to control a situation which had gone out of hand and reacting as her brother in front of Sunny. As per his character, he acts and then thinks and the same with Kirti. I’m sure either from Pallavi or by himself, he will start thinking on this. Can’t blame Kirti for finding her solace in Sunny as she thinks he is the only one who can love her but Amma & Raghav are not wrong on their side as well. As her family they want her to be happy and both of them feel Sunny is not a right choice.

Pallavi's input is very much needed for him to understand where Keerti's struggling emotionally. I think he will realize how similar it is to his own situation and will be in a better position to understand how to bridge the emotional gap.

While I hated all the screaming and shouting, I'm glad it's finally out in the open because as we've all been saying, they may no longer have physical distance between them but the emotional distance is there. Now that it's visible to them too, someone needs to get to work trying to solve the issues bit by bit. It's a long road but not one that's impossible to travel.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Its been both ways.. they have completely shut off each other..Keerthi by choice and Raghav out of having no option.. They both have been completely unaware of each other's struggles all these years.. as far as this brother sister duo is concerned they are strangers.. no wonder Raghav doesn't know how to address her issues and Keerthi misunderstands him all the time..

And this is where Sunny acts as a catalyst, to actually bring the siblings closer, because they both now have a topic on which they can talk, fight, etc. basically engage with one another. Pallavi's impartial insights will help both.

Originally posted by: inlieu

@bold, you know I was hoping Ayi would have been the one to help Amma with this. As a mother who lost a child she could empathize and help Amma come out of it. Maybe that's not meant to be. I will say though that I'm relieved the reconciliation wasn't done and dusted in day. It took 10 years of pain to get here, so it shouldn't be resolved so quickly. Bring on the angst and turmoil. 😈

In future, maybe.. but at the moment Ayi doesnt think much of Amma.. if anything she dislikes her strongly. From her position, she confided in Jaya Rao her family issues, son dying and Pallavi's problems and how she wants Pallavi to get married again..and Jaya Rao turns around and gets Pallavi married to her son who is the worst possible match for her daughter..

You'r right.. and this Keerthi matter is gonna push the siblings further away.. I think Amma is closer to reconciliation with Raghav right now..

Originally posted by: Lonelythots

yes, she was literally off the the charts but i think a lot of her outburst is what she has been bottling up for years. She may not have been in her right state of mind but when she is in her right state of mind, she has not been able to express anything else apart from disgust. Today, seeing him snatch her happiness away, (this is what she believes,) she couldnt hold it in any longer and amma and pallavi trying to stop her only addled her brain even more to the extent she sees even amma and pallavi as raghav supporters, more so pallavi, since she has been defending raghav and also bcoz she believes pallavi has been manipulated by raghav to come over to his side by sharing his side of the story.. she really sees raghav as the villain of her life. Atleast this is what is my take away from her eruption today!

Yes, i also agree that just cuz she wants to burn her hands, doesnt mean that raghav and amma should allow her to. But they really need to assess the damage and move their cards well so as to get keerthi to come around to her rational self. I think at most, raghav has only averted the elopement by offering sunny money ,just an interim relief.

Yes, this is just a temporary fix but let's see if Keerti actually realizes herself that Sunny isn't the right person for her or if she feels she can't win against Raghav so she let's Sunny go and continues to resent Raghav.

@bold, I found it interesting she said that because I've always wanted to hear all three Rao perspectives on their past. Perhaps Keerti can add a dimension that will help solve this. The Raos don't talk to each other, which ideally they should in order to see the full picture. Perhaps each one of them will talk to Pallavi individually, and then she can have the 360 view of what went down.

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

One dialogue from the precap -

kabhi kisi ke saamne itna mat jhukna, ki khud hi toot jaao..

Why it feels like Pallavi is telling this to herself after what happened in Deshmukh house... And if that's the case, it's good writing.... The girl is looking back at her life maybe..

Okay, and can we move beyond kambal udhana and foonk maarna in a very obvious way please.. Itna thand aur dard...🤣

Kya dekhna hai aap ko? Yahin pe likh dijiye aur CVs padhe ke scene likh lenge aap ke liye.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

@bold-Honestly I didnt read too much into his anger.. felt like a typical husband wife fight over a domestic issue. He was angry and feeling helpless about the whole situation because he knows the matter is far from settled and hitting Keerthi may just have made things worse. Pallavi took the brunt of it all, being the wife and his confidante. Its not like her telling him,would have changed the way he acted..he would've still snooped and dealt with Sunny and Keerthi the same way he did.. Pallavi stood by him when no one else did and he knows he can trust her with anything and over anyone..Im very sure that when things cool down, he will understand her position..

I think that Raghav is also transitioning from the merely roles and responsibilities part of being a husband to being a confidante and this is why he reacted this way. I do hope he will understand her position and also remember that he didn't tell her either that he was surveilling Sunny, in which case she technically can throw that accusation back on his face of not confiding in her as as husband should. 😆

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

In future, maybe.. but at the moment Ayi doesnt think much of Amma.. if anything she dislikes her strongly. From her position, she confided in Jaya Rao her family issues, son dying and Pallavi's problems and how she wants Pallavi to get married again..and Jaya Rao turns around and gets Pallavi married to her son who is the worst possible match for her daughter..

You'r right.. and this Keerthi matter is gonna push the siblings further away.. I think Amma is closer to reconciliation with Raghav right now..

I would dislike Amma too if I were in Ayi's place, but when the two women had that conversation over tea, I could see a natural synergy there. Ayi doesn't know their history but maybe one day she will and it will place her in a better position to advise and just be someone Amma can talk to.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Completely agree, especially on point #3. I have been saying this for a while now, that we don't see Raghav having normal conversations with Keerti or Amma, spending normal time with them. Just like he's building his relationship with Pallavi from scratch, he needs to do the same with the other ladies in his family. They won't make the first move so he has to.

As for #5 I can write a whole essay on this topic. 😆

5th I wanted to explain it more, but then sab samajhdaar Hai yaha 😆

Originally posted by: inlieu

I think that Raghav is also transitioning from the merely roles and responsibilities part of being a husband to being a confidante and this is why he reacted this way. I do hope he will understand her position and also remember that he didn't tell her either that he was surveilling Sunny, in which case she technically can throw that accusation back on his face of not confiding in here as as husband should. 😆

You know what I loved about the RaghVi scene yesterday.. The bg music immediately changed from the high pitch dramatic tune when Raghav was confronting Keerthi to a a mellowed down tune as soon as he enters the bedroom.. nicely depicted the change in scenario and energy between the individuals..

When he says mujhe kuchh nahi sunna..she doesnt retaliate. she let's him vent and goes "ok tell me how you gotta know about them" That was such a wifey thing to do to calm down your husband.. she is and will be the only one who can simmer him and once that happens he will see everything clearly and act wisely and not out of impulse. Fire and ice in true sense..