Sai's allegations (my understanding of it) - Page 6

Originally posted by: laksh

Thanks

I sometimes write when characters get completely misunderstood. Have posted when Virat was misunderstood too. What happens is that the show or the story will get misinterpreted or will be looked at from a completely different angle after that. Just my try, it is always upto people to agree or disagree, I just share my understanding so that they try to look at it from that perspective as well. Also, they are all like missing pieces of a puzzle, will make more sense when we try to connect various things from the story.

I am sorry but I will have to disagree with you this time.

Yes, Pakhi did start it, but she managed to push Sai and the rest of the family members to the edge when she had brought up the topic of Virat sleeping on the couch. She managed to turn the whole family against Sai instantly with that information. They already are against her but she could rile them up to an extent that all of them can attack on Sai as if she committed a crime.

If we look at it, it was natural for Virat to walk out of his room like that. Only problem for me was that in his anger, he forgot who his family members are, what they are capable of and how they would all blame it only on Sai. They won't even agree even if he opens his mouth and tell that he walked out on his own 🤦‍♀️. Anyway he didn't even clarify that and I am very disappointed with him. Just another reason for one to be upset with him. He closed his eyes when his Kaku blamed Sai for it rather than clarifying it.

Anyway I had a mixed feeling about it because people do walk out after having a fight. In general, in joint family, even when I have lived with my in laws, we always ensure that we don't sleep in the living room or any room other than our own room how much ever upset we are. I am talking about regular, normal family 🤣🤣. Parents are old and some have old mindset even today, so no point in expecting them to understand, it also is quite embarrassing. Sai woke up Virat to take him to the room out of care and also because she knows about his family. As she had said they are people who make pahad not just out of rai, out of jeera and everything 🤣🤣.

Unfortunately; even though Sai never planned to reveal the truth and like any other person, she just wanted to leave the house asap, but will these people let her live her life peacefully even one day? They have issues with her having food at the canteen with her own money too. And Pakhi the lady who was confessing her love for Virat had the audacity to turn the tables and put Sai in a bad light by saying that Sai has issues with her talking to Virat. Anyway, it was good in a way that it had all come out.

I understand Virat had his own reasons to stay silent. It was his past, his rights to decide whether or not to reveal it to others even if Sai questions him. He also felt it was necessary to protect Pakhi's truth so that the chances of Pakhi moving on in her life, so that the chances of Pakhi and Samrat's marriage to work doesn't get ruined.

But he should have never stood silent when they kept attacking Sai. He stood quiet when Pakhi spoke nonsense about Sai. This was much before Sai even questioned him about his past. She had at first, only asked him to share the reason behind their fight that they had the previous night. And right after that Pakhi tried to stop Sai from askimg Virat. He didn't ask Pakhi to stop interfering, why? When will he do that? He can ask Bua, his mom and not Pakhi? He could have suggested to Sai that they can speak in their room but instead told his mom to put sense into her and tried to walk away.

The entire time, I was wondering why didn't Virat try to tell Sai that she has misunderstood and that they need to discuss all these in their room? Why didn't he? Sai was provoked or triggered by Pakhi, he came to know that Pakhi revealed to the family that he slept on the couch. He didn't look at anything from Sai's pov. I am sorry but I don't see Virat matured. He is matured only when he wants to be, it is selective maturity. Sai has also been matured many times and especially for her nature.

Virat failed a big time as a husband. He kept seeking for answers, trying to understand why Sai was affected by all these or why she was asking these when she calls the marriage to be a marriage of deal especially since Sonali asked the question. He should have berated Pakhi to have called her a nurse. This was even before she questioned him about his past, why didn't he stand up? He tried to walk away yet again after he made her look like a fool, after he made her look like a liar by staying silent when Pakhi was questioned. He knew the truth of Pakhi, tried to protect her honour, fine. Shouldn't he have thought that by doing it, he was letting the people accuse Sai even though Sai was speaking the truth, then should he not be trying to support Sai or help her in some way?

About your question on why people hate him. I can really understand their frustration. Virat is a coward, he failed to stand up for Sai when he had to. Let us say that he was affected because he was questioned by Sai, did he not rush to her when she tripped? That shows that his problem was that he didn't want to tell anything in front of others, he was hurt that she had misunderstood that he probably has feelings for Pakhi. He was also silent to save a woman's honour and his own brother's marriage but he didn't think of protecting his wife from getting accused or attacked. He wallows a lot in self pity. He looks at his own emotions many a times and forgets that Sai is affected very badly due to how his family and Pakhi treat her. He fails to look at Sai's condition or Sai's hurt when he gets hurt. Even if I am hurt, I would never let anyone insult my husband. Even if I am hurt, I will look at why my husband was hurt or thinm about what he must be going feeling.

He fought with Pakhi saying Sai is a person good at heart when Pakhi tried to blame that Sai turned Devi against her near the pool. Why didn't he open his mouth when Pakhi said the same thing in front of everyone? He immediately looked at Pakhi thinking, oh no not again kind of an expression. He knew Pakhi was wrong. He praised and even tried to give a stupid gift to Sai because she helped his family a lot after she helped Devi Tai reconcile with Kaku. Pakhi took away that credit too and instead made it look like Sai turned Devi too against Kaku. What did Virat do? Stand mum. How can one be like that? He knows what the truth is, by talking about these, will he be spoiling his brother's wife? By berating Pakhi to have called Sai a nurse, will he be disrespecting his brother's wife? If that is the case, who would want a girl to be with him? They will think that he will always burden Sai with too many expectations and never stand up for his wife when his wife will be humiliated. That is why many has started to dislike Virat.

If you ask me, I have categorised him as a coward, someone who will keep wallowing in self pity everytime something goes wrong. Have seen a lot of couples and if I notice someone like this, I would know how difficult it would be to have someone like that as a partner. They will keep throwing their spouse under the bus if the situation requires. They will keep burdening them with their high expectations.

He has to change. The house he grew up is the reason for many things but I would have expected that he had brought in many changes within him considering that he had been to school, university, academy and even work. That is okay even if he is like this now, he should bring in some changes atleast now. When things goes on smooth between him and Sai, he will be one person but when things goes in a direction that he doesn't like, he will be a completely different person. He has to work on controlling his emotions, change his old school thoughts, learn to be more consistent, and also learn to act bold or courageous.

To be honest, I too tolerate when someone from my family speaks something against me, I ignore many things to maintain peace, to avoid issues but I will never keep quiet when my loved ones are insulted or someone acts unfair with my loved ones.

Since you asked me about Virat, I spoke only about him, that doesn't mean that I think Sai is right. I know that she also has been wrong. She has her own set of flaws.

Laksh I understand each and every word of your ... And trust me in my comment before I just tried to look at virat pov regarding staying mum during vadha and relationship matter because to me he is stuck between his wife and his brother whom he love the most in the world but not between pakhi and sai that's the reason why I am giving benefit of doubt over there.. .but I never said I completely agree with me.... I don't believe but even now if I see that nurse comment , pakhi SE zadha I am upset with virat... And him shifting blame on sai for sofa khand.... The way he said put some scence in her brain to learn how to be in join family... Literally I felt like slapping him... And that's the reason I really want them to be away from eachother for sometime.....

And being the mature one among the both I mean.... Yes, both sairat act mature at few points and immature at few points but ya when compared both virat is little mature although I am not considering not standing up against wrong as mature thing.... I am just saying virat actually handles the situation pretty tackfully when compared to sai ... But today he failed over there... I seriously wanted / expected him to handle this alot better way, not need of agreeing for EMA or still having relationship with pakhi, 1st thing, when Ashwini questioned him, he could have said aai sai ka galthi nahi hai I just came out or something or we will solve this in room hum donom ka galthi ga.... Frankly speaking if he answered like sai wouldn't have triggered that much... When everyone blaming sai , instead of running away he could atleast sai to Ghar ke bhade..... Plz everyone don't talk in between it's only between us... But no , he stood mum.... Even I didn't liked the way virat behaved in last three episodes, but not agreeing to relationship thing , I can understand that...but I totally agree and hate that virat actually pushed sai under the bus... And even now he is not trying to understand her....

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

I have a small question as u said sai recall pakhi's word at poolside , then why she is not revealing what she heard at poolside to virat ? Coz he dint said anything which was wrong infact be did defended sai at poolside when pakhi started ranting about brainwashing devi , when she was ranting non existing marriage talks virat clearly stated it as bakwas & if she entered at d last moment then virat was on high pitch by saying " ha kahan tha lekin iska matlab ye nhi hai" sadly he got interrupted by her

That's why virat kept on asking what she heard so that he can clear her confusion but she kept denying it . I don't know why pakhi's words r so important for her

Oh why should he know what she heard? Can’t he reveal it all? Oh but that will make him look morally wrong for having given a Vada to his bahabi. She asked him about Vada and it’s importance & Vada to Pakhi. He said it’s behuda because he knows he was wrong it giving such a promise to his bhabhi.

Pakhi’s words are important because she harrases and abuses her using the Vada that good for nothing husband gave to his bhabhi. Bhabhi made her feel like a third wheel in her own marraige with active hp from devar in the initial days if marriage

Vada aside, why didn’t Virat shut Pakhi up when he called his wife nurse and so called wife? Muh mei kya tha tab? He knows Pakhi’s intentions too. Phor bhi he let his ex cum bhahi humillate his wife. Who knows about his intentions? Dono chahiye ladke ko. Varna chup kar sakte thi. Sai took a stand for Virat near pool side.

Pakhi said the same nonsense about Devi in hall too. If he shut pakhi in the pool side while talking about Devi why didn’t he do the same in Hall? Because he doesn’t want to hurt Pakhi in public. Ex cum bhabhi keliye joh soft corner hai. He willingly let Sai be humiliated after knowing Pakhi’s intentions. He knows Pakhi did the devi drama for him but when she accused Sai of turning Devi against her he stopd like a statue. Konsa pyaara husband aise karte hai. No loving husband will do. This good for nothing husband can romance without a confession but can’t clear his vada which he himself told his wife. He had questionable behaviour with bhabhi but will stand and cry in hall when asked about it. All he wants to do in room is romance. Koi baat nahi usmei lekin agar wife to defend nahi kar sakte toh romance ki bare nahi sochna chaiye. Uss urge ko kuch aur hi bolte hai.

he loved pakhi. He gave her the vada. Agar yeh insaan hall me said I made a mistake by giving vada to Pakhi and she’s my past issue would have been sorted. He could have said Sai is my present and I love her. Two sentences and it would have been solved. But creepy person didn’t clarify. He didn’t want to let his mistakes be revealed. Itna natak karte hoi saying Virat chavan pakki zuban. He can’t loose his image infront of family. He Instead stood and cried. Unki hissab se toh yeh saach hai why didn’t he then say pakhi is my past and i love only sai right now? Itna tamasha nahi hoti. Lekin he can’t acknowledge his mistakes. So he will make jaelbis saying sai kitna suna hai

Or another possibility like sai said he wants to have both. Well sai told him he can’t clearly have that. Hopefully they will show him reflecting on his countless mistakes and apologising

As neil said Virat caused all these problems in Sai’s life.

Beautiful post laksh

Sai didn’t accuse him. She asked him about the promise which he himself made. His promise did mean forever to Pakhi. If his feelings changed and he wants to move ahead with Sai he should clear this roadblock. Sai could have accused him. There are many instances she can point out especially of Pakhi’s. She didn’t. She asked only about his vada and that’s the truth. He could have simply accepted the past and come clean than making her look like a liar. He let his family and ex abuse her. Sai isn’t aware of any private conversations of Pakhi- Virat. For her the last convo is pool side and before that it was Pakhi calling her a gold digger infront of Virat. What else should Sai ask. It’s his promise, he made it. But sadly he doesn’t have the guts to open up

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

I do have a question. I know everyone wanted a confrontation behind closed doors and is annoyed about Sai not respecting Virat’s privacy vis-a-vis Pakhi and his Relationship.

However what I see is that asking those questions in front of the family was highly necessary. Sai is time and again and again and again accused of being a gold digger, characterless and uncaring wife in front of the same family, by the vile woman and her spineless **** of a husband(pardon my french) does nothing to dissuade the notion. Why then, should she be the only one to think about said husband and his ex lover’s privacy? She is shown to be an atypical FL and it goes with her character. When Sai and Virat’s married life has no privacy what with KBA appearing unannounced in their room and questioning their relationship and especially Sai as woman, in front of everyone, while Virat does absolutely nothing except a meek “bas” then why is the notion from people that Sai should respect Virat’s privacy? Is VirAkhi’s piousness and privacy more important than hers? Virat may not have brought up Sai’s character etc in front of others, but he seems to have screwed his tongue shut to his brain as neither seems to be working when Sai is insulted on a daily basis. I have been in love, I have lived love and what Virat has for Sai is not love. People should stop categorising his behavior of an actual gaslighting and spineless ML as being “non confrontational”. I have lost my connection with SaiRat mostly due to the butchering of Virat done by the CVs and also the shoddy directing of the show (their scene with the wall was so freaking cringeworthy. Virat was staring at the wall while Sai stared back as though he was miles away. On top of it, the side shots and individual ones did not match at all). NB himself does not seem to be able to relate to Virat anymore because his IVs are completely different from each other. Ironically his acting is reacting IV makes it more hilarious - his own reactions as Virat to Sai’s dialogues are very very confusing and illogical. Makes me wonder if they just add in expressions as they go instead of actually reacting to the script.

People garb about shows like MHRW, PS, SNS 2 etc but in a twist of fate these shows have MLs who stood up for their better halves when needed and quite early in the show. All of them have had forced/circumstantial weddings with one show having a morally grey hero. Turns out even he shut the girl’s own family up when she was humiliated. Even these male leads are not perfect and have done enormous mistakes, but it took then far less episodes and far less repugnant storylines to grow a brain.

Lastly, what’s with the point that because it’s a remake of KD, the story has to be the same. As far as I know SP shows - Aapki Nazron ne Samjha, Mehendi hai Rachne Waali, Shaurya aur Anokhi is Kahani, Pandya Stores, Imlie, Saath Nibhaana Saathiya 2, Anupamma - all are remakes. But they have deviated from the storyline as and when needed. Yahaan par why do they need a scene to scene copy + disgusting VirAkhi creativity? It’s a genuine question. Is the original production house against deviating from their *brilliant* story?

P.S - This post is not meant to disrupt peace on the forum or the discussion on this thread. I had earlier made a post and had a discussion with Laksh on the same and this is just the remaining observation.

What a beautiful post

Bold- This isn’t love. If you can’t stand for thiose whom you love that can’t be called love. Him standing like a statue when his wife is humiliated and abused on a daily basis isn’t love. Hell that isn’t even his his personality. He has in the past manytimes warned Sai on the way she spoke to Pakhi. But when it comes to Sai he’s mute. He will silently listen to her being called a liar, gold digger, nurse, selfish insaan. Woah! Even an acquaintance will voice support let alone husband. That’s his hypocrisy. He is respecting Pakhi’s honour over his wife’s that too when they shared a past. This is toxic. He wants love but won’t even lift a single finger to make him eligible for love.

His acting went all haywire. She was speaking the truth. So it should have been guilt. The scoff or whatever he tried to show failed miserably. A collective failure from actor and writers indeed. NB’a acting- reaction is failing daily

Sai didn’t even for a minute question Pakhi and Virat’s relationship. She asked about the Vada which Viratt himself verbalised. The result of his actions are paid by Sai the wife. She was made to look like a liar. Which partner would let that happen willingly. This person isn’t in love

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

I do have a question. I know everyone wanted a confrontation behind closed doors and is annoyed about Sai not respecting Virat’s privacy vis-a-vis Pakhi and his Relationship.

However what I see is that asking those questions in front of the family was highly necessary. Sai is time and again and again and again accused of being a gold digger, characterless and uncaring wife in front of the same family, by the vile woman and her spineless **** of a husband(pardon my french) does nothing to dissuade the notion.

I understand why she asked them and how it became necessary. I have replied to some in this thread and have also written in my analysis of waada confrontation episodes that in the position that Sai is, it is understandable as why she did what she did. The girl is subjected to harassment and torture day in and out and it had to be addressed and it ended up thos way. She didn't even plan it but was pushed to the edge to do it. We are not in her position, so I can't comment.

Why then, should she be the only one to think about said husband and his ex lover’s privacy? She is shown to be an atypical FL and it goes with her character. When Sai and Virat’s married life has no privacy what with KBA appearing unannounced in their room and questioning their relationship and especially Sai as woman, in front of everyone, while Virat does absolutely nothing except a meek “bas” then why is the notion from people that Sai should respect Virat’s privacy? Is VirAkhi’s piousness and privacy more important than hers?

I understand and agree that their marriage never had any privacy. The lady walks into their room as if it is her own. I am not saying that Virat and Pakhi's privacy is more important than hers.

I have looked at it in a few ways. If we don't look at the way you have just written but instead look at that should Sai ask Virat in front of everyone about his past you might get an answer. I know in this case, she was pushed and I cannot judge her because I am not in her position. But when they are both husband and wife, when they will be leading their life together, it only makes sense that Sai respects her husband's privacy and Virat respects his wife. Virat can be a coward, can be anything but Virat is not Pakhi, he deserves a fair chance and that is why Sai even returned to him now and will also be staying back with him. So why can't one expect that Virat's privacy should be taken into account? I don't mind many things because I see them all as their family with whom they are going to live anyway, who have always interfered in all their personal matters, so there is nothing much personal in that house. But, it was Virat's past, Virat's comfort should be taken into account as well. I understand what made Sai do it, I am not going to blame her for it but Virat wasn't comfortable. It is his history and it should be his choice whether or not to reveal it in front of others. His comfort should be taken into account. As an audience I understand why Sai did it but I also understand what would have Virat preferred and I can also understand his emotions at that point of time. Virat is not Pakhi that I can think that he deserves this. If Sai doesn't return to the house or doesn't talk to him, act indifferent with him, I will understand that he deserves it, not this. But yes, it was something that was better that it came out. The rest in the family should be aware of it because they will be forced to think of this whenever Pakhi does something against Sai, they will be forced to understand Sai's disapproval towards Virat and Pakhi's friendship. They might not admit it, but it will eventually help in warming up to Sai.

Virat may not have brought up Sai’s character etc in front of others, but he seems to have screwed his tongue shut to his brain as neither seems to be working when Sai is insulted on a daily basis. I have been in love, I have lived love and what Virat has for Sai is not love.

I agree. I have always felt that he lacks some elements in his love for Sai. But I have started to have my own doubts if he even loves her. Very hard for me to accept it because of his behavior. We would never let our loved ones get insulted this way, never. He just doesn't know many things. I would want to watch the show to judge who he actually is. He is a coward, a person who gets consumed in his own misery and fails to see the pain of his wife. It is not because it is Sai, that we have such expectations, it is because he claims that he loves her that his behavior is unacceptable to the audience.

People should stop categorising his behavior of an actual gaslighting and spineless ML as being “non confrontational”. I have lost my connection with SaiRat mostly due to the butchering of Virat done by the CVs and also the shoddy directing of the show (their scene with the wall was so freaking cringeworthy. Virat was staring at the wall while Sai stared back as though he was miles away. On top of it, the side shots and individual ones did not match at all). NB himself does not seem to be able to relate to Virat anymore because his IVs are completely different from each other. Ironically his acting is reacting IV makes it more hilarious - his own reactions as Virat to Sai’s dialogues are very very confusing and illogical. Makes me wonder if they just add in expressions as they go instead of actually reacting to the script.

I know, poor writing, poor direction. The script was poor already and all of these will only make people stop watching it. I come to know some of his responses from people's comments. I have not gone through his articles or IVS, haven't watched Ayesha's too.

People garb about shows like MHRW, PS, SNS 2 etc but in a twist of fate these shows have MLs who stood up for their better halves when needed and quite early in the show. All of them have had forced/circumstantial weddings with one show having a morally grey hero. Turns out even he shut the girl’s own family up when she was humiliated. Even these male leads are not perfect and have done enormous mistakes, but it took then far less episodes and far less repugnant storylines to grow a brain.

I am not sure why they had to butcher Virat 🤦‍♀️.

Lastly, what’s with the point that because it’s a remake of KD, the story has to be the same. As far as I know SP shows - Aapki Nazron ne Samjha, Mehendi hai Rachne Waali, Shaurya aur Anokhi is Kahani, Pandya Stores, Imlie, Saath Nibhaana Saathiya 2, Anupamma - all are remakes. But they have deviated from the storyline as and when needed. Yahaan par why do they need a scene to scene copy + disgusting VirAkhi creativity? It’s a genuine question. Is the original production house against deviating from their *brilliant* story?

Tell me about it. I am tired of their creativity when it comes to Virat Pakhi scenes. I have no clue as to what they are doing but from the looks of it, it only looks like Sairat is the end game till now. I might not watch the show after confession. I just hope that I can survive that long.

P.S - This post is not meant to disrupt peace on the forum or the discussion on this thread. I had earlier made a post and had a discussion with Laksh on the same and this is just the remaining observation.

Have replied in green 😊. I understand your frustration. It is natural to feel this way when the protagonist of the show behaves this way. If the ML behaves this way and keeps claiming it as love, who would even like it. They have to revive Virat's character, it would become impossible to enjoy even Sairat scenes. Many are still stuck to the show for Sairat and their story, it will be very disappointing if they don't deviate from KD.

Originally posted by: laksh

If you are interested.

Man,you are a genius.❤️

I get freaked out to write like this😆 I finally came. Well, this is a thought that I had when I read it, well more of a doubt here.🙈

You have made wonderful points. Agreed, Sai doesn't suspect of a EMA here, but she is pretty hurt .

Well, here is my doubtful thought what I felt?🙈

Did Sai had a problem with leaving Virat , as this marriage is a deal?

Maybe she was mentally prepared of it one day, but with how the situations had progressed, maybe Sai had somehow put aside that Virat had drew a line due to his commitment, atleast partially if not fully, maybe she had come to a point that this marriage was only meant till she became a doctor. As this marriage was meant to happen for her dreams as well, so she was only into that. But, slowly she was also getting much confortable, as it is normal, she began feeling smooth in this relationship, without realising that road is actually a bumpy one here. Maybe, even if we consider that Sai would have left without this confrontation drama, as in when Virat was cured. Maybe she would just calm herself that this was her decision, she was the one who chose this.

But, here is the doubt part majorly,

Does Sai have a problem to leave Virat due to Pakhi?

Maybe Yes, she would have left if it was her individual decision. But, I felt Sai is not okay that she should leave the house because of a vaada or what part of truth she knows. Cuz, she feels pain as a wife here. So, she was asking clarity here, that are her questions valid, that if not today, if one day she has to leave the house, then, it would be neither her or Virat's decision, but would it be influenced by Pakhi? Maybe she is troubled by that, so why should she be blamed. When the decision to separate would be not because of the couple, but due to Patralekha. So, maybe that is why she demanded answer infront of family.

Sorry,it I am not making sense 😆

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

I have a small question as u said sai recall pakhi's word at poolside , then why she is not revealing what she heard at poolside to virat ? Coz he dint said anything which was wrong infact be did defended sai at poolside when pakhi started ranting about brainwashing devi , when she was ranting non existing marriage talks virat clearly stated it as bakwas & if she entered at d last moment then virat was on high pitch by saying " ha kahan tha lekin iska matlab ye nhi hai" sadly he got interrupted by her

That's why virat kept on asking what she heard so that he can clear her confusion but she kept denying it . I don't know why pakhi's words r so important for her

@first para

Sai is hurt and upset about what she heard. She is coming in terms with whatever she had witnessed. She told them too that it wasn't something that she wasn't already aware of but she had forgotten this for sometime. She is overwhelmed at the moment and when Virat asked her even though she replied to him, she didn't want to talk about it. She wanted to question him, share with him but she was confused as what they have between them, if she has rights as a wife to ask him for details.

She is in a turmoil.

@second para

I know why Virat wanted to know how much she heard. He didn't want her to misunderstand him or form any wrong opinions about him.

Will reply in sometime 😊.

Originally posted by: Lostin90s

I too feel the same. There were three things that drove Sai to vent out her frustrations:

First, her constant humiliation for no fault of hers, and it started every time more or less at the behest of pp.

Secondly, her changed feelings for Virat, forcing her to confront Virat to get clarity about his stand or feeling as well.

Lastly, her being grossed out at the thought Virat trying to get physical with her and she almost giving into his advances, while he was ostensibly committed to someone else.

From the perspective of Sai, this confrontation was much needed for her own sanity and to move forward with or without Virat.

Perfect summarization ❤.