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Posted: 4 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Idiotboxer

This used to be my favorite topic of discussion but with the news of the show shutting down, I don't expect much. There is little scope of showing a slow progression in their relationship if the show ends by June.

I had hoped to see a bit of a backstory to give us a clearer idea regarding why Aastha left and why she didn't fight. Otherwise forget about Shaurya, even the viewers are not convinced. Though I personally feel she was given a tough choice and she took the tougher decision so that her parents' dignity is not compromised. It is not easy for a mother to stay away from her child. And the loss of a child always hurts more than that of a parent. She also had a more or less comfortable life at the Sabharwals whereas she would have to face the taunts of a judgemental society, financial hardships and what not when she tried to chart out a life of her own in a small town.

Now we don't know if Aastha was aware of the fact that Devi was just using Shaurya and Shaan had also abandoned him. Because she still maintains that she left him behind for his own good. Perhaps she did not know. It is only now that she is realizing these things. Had she known earlier, then she might have fought like she said to Devi in the hospital. But then again, today she says that all these years, she couldn't muster up enough courage. So whether she was scared of the Sabharwals or she thought Shaurya would have a better life in SM, is something only CVs can tell. That too if they realize the character inconsistencies they are showing.

Another problem is her never trying to contact Shaurya even when he was grown up. It is as if she suddenly saw him in Gurdaspur and realised she had a son. Though in the OG, she did try to contact him often but it was Shaurya who refused to talk to her. So I don't know why she had been made so indifferent here. It could possibly be to save him from more pain thinking he hated her. That is why we needed some insights into the past.

One of the biggest problems people had with her character was her saying that Shaurya was arrogant like the Sabharwals. That children grow up fine without a mother. (I too have a problem with the second statement, and this was picked directly from the OG but the OG Aastha was different and this statement didn't suit the Aastha here) Though I don't mind her pointing out his flaws but she should have accepted the role of her abandonment in this.

Nowadays she has even stopped pointing out his flaws. And she keeps repeating that Shaurya is a good man. That too to Anokhi, who probably has seen the present Shaurya more than her. She wants Anokhi to rectify all his shortcomings and wants her to take the responsibility of changing him. She is not thinking about Anokhi's own scars to which she had been an witness. She feels love can heal every problem but she has seen with her own life that love cannot solve everything. Her character has become pendulum like now.

I don't know how the reconciliation between her and Shaurya will take place. Perhaps she will admit that she should have abandoned her parents and remained with Shaurya and Shaan and then Shaurya will forgive her.

I feel Aastha had left Shaurya for his own good. Maybe she thought that Devi would be a Yashoda for her son and he would have a comfortable life and also become the heir for Sabherwals. I think she had expected Devi to genuinely love Shaurya as a mother. But Devi could not do that. She was just trying to fill Aastha's place and constantly reminding Shaurya about what she was doing. So Shaurya could never forget Aastha and he also understood that Devi is doing an ehsan on him. Their relationship was always formal it was never like a mother son relationship. But Aastha not trying to contact her son and husband for 25 years is really absurd. Hope atleast now she realizes the mistakes she made with respect to Shaurya and tries to sort it out instead of putting all the responsibility on Anokhi.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Nidhi14

Today he didn't get upset seeing Shan and Astha together. He didn't pay much attention to her but didn't insult her either. He didn't let Tej involve her in this issue. He didn't call her ye aurat and all.😆

He is not bothered about anything beyond Anokhi.

I was more happy than Aastha when he pushed away Devi's hand.

I am looking forward for Shaurya Aastha scenes. Don't know if Gayatri will have courage to tell the truth.


He has definitely tonned down to Astha... And it has been that way for a while... I guess after that whole insult thing when he went out and told her to not form any relationship. He was fine and normal even when Astha told him to take care while leaving for Kapurthala...


But that izzat wasn't too evident even today. More than Gayatri seems like Anokhi will play her role in mending things...


Him removing her hand was hilarious... The way Anokhi keeps removing his hand, he just took the revenge.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

I think any relationship repairing need to start with truth. Will astha telling what psycho S-clan will mend fences? No. But it will put a lot of things in line. Like devi being psycho, misogyny around, shaan being aloof and broken, and why he himself broke up with shagun earlier. We didn't actually see what happened back in his childhood with the parents separating and maybe a fb will be nice. Once that's out of way Shaurya will understand why she left, and if he supports anokhi like his father couldn't with astha, there is no reason for anokhi leaving due to work/study/xyz.



Basically have a talk.


Shaurya ideally has a long way to go, definitely with Astha!

In childhood all he remembers is that his mother left him with Devi while he was crying and Devi was calming him... Astha was guilty but she moved out...


And then whatever back story we know about why Astha took the decision... It seems unimportant to him anyway... Because for him.. It was her mother still choosing her career over him.


With the whole Astha angle being clearer... Shaurya could probably take Anokhi's stride and be assured she would be a great mother and wife even if she studies.. Only if he supports her... Unlike Shaan.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: anuprem

I feel Aastha had left Shaurya for his own good. Maybe she thought that Devi would be a Yashoda for her son and he would have a comfortable life and also become the heir for Sabherwals. I think she had expected Devi to genuinely love Shaurya as a mother. But Devi could not do that. She was just trying to fill Aastha's place and constantly reminding Shaurya about what she was doing. So Shaurya could never forget Aastha and he also understood that Devi is doing an ehsan on him. Their relationship was always formal it was never like a mother son relationship. But Aastha not trying to contact her son and husband for 25 years is really absurd. Hope atleast now she realizes the mistakes she made with respect to Shaurya and tries to sort it out instead of putting all the responsibility on Anokhi.


I do think Devi loves Shaurya... Woh bhi in obsessive way... That is unhealthy... Because of her obsession she wants to control Shaurya and ensure his attention is on her and he keeps up with her expectations under 'ehsaan' she has been doing...


Hence, the whole point of Shaurya not liking Anokhi stating any of his help as favour is understandable... Remember the time when she said favour for helping her get accommodation and all... Love and relationship are selfless!

BM constantly brings up her favors on Shaurya, making him guilty time and again... And Anokhi is one person who has succeeded taking off little 'control' over Shaurya and kind of push him towards Astha too! That's why she hates Anokhi...

Posted: 4 years ago
#15

I don't know to predict what's going on inside Aastha's brain with the new-found love for her only son but their issues won't be resolved soon. At least if we look at it practically, I don't think it should be highlighted at a point like this. Plus we know how stubborn Shaurya has always been, its not gonna change soon...

I agree. BM brought Shaurya up when his own mom wasn't there for him, so the softness in tone or behaviour has to be instilled in him right? He doesn't care that his mom has come all the way from Kapurthala to Goa for him but he's rather concerned about his family clan arriving Goa to give him a major shock & ANOKHI, his main priority 💔

Its just that he got the deets about her from his mom, that's it. Baaki baaton ka daalo achaar 😆😆 Either banda isn't interested or he's not in that mind set to discuss other stuff with his parents apart from Anokhi. I think his constant worrying for her is so cute... (Don't know about others LOL)

Aastha was trynna steal the limelight or not regarding her helping Anokhi wasn't noticed by me. I mean yeah she did say so but it was more like informing her son 'Dekho beta, BM is lying to you. Anokhi actually came to meet you but that vile lady didn't allow her to come in, so finally it was with me that Anokhi could come to see you', what do you think? 😊

Anyway... That matter at hand is where the hell had Shaurya gone (KV needed rest & glad he's getting it 💛) & how one earth are these peeps gonna find him? 🤪

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Coffee_Chips

I don't know to predict what's going on inside Aastha's brain with the new-found love for her only son but their issues won't be resolved soon. At least if we look at it practically, I don't think it should be highlighted at a point like this. Plus we know how stubborn Shaurya has always been, its not gonna change soon...

I agree. BM brought Shaurya up when his own mom wasn't there for him, so the softness in tone or behaviour has to be instilled in him right? He doesn't care that his mom has come all the way from Kapurthala to Goa for him but he's rather concerned about his family clan arriving Goa to give him a major shock & ANOKHI, his main priority 💔

Its just that he got the deets about her from his mom, that's it. Baaki baaton ka daalo achaar 😆😆 Either banda isn't interested or he's not in that mind set to discuss other stuff with his parents apart from Anokhi. I think his constant worrying for her is so cute... (Don't know about others LOL)

Aastha was trynna steal the limelight or not regarding her helping Anokhi wasn't noticed by me. I mean yeah she did say so but it was more like informing her son 'Dekho beta, BM is lying to you. Anokhi actually came to meet you but that vile lady didn't allow her to come in, so finally it was with me that Anokhi could come to see you', what do you think? 😊

Anyway... That matter at hand is where the hell had Shaurya gone (KV needed rest & glad he's getting it 💛) & how one earth are these peeps gonna find him? 🤪


KV's health issues are Shaurya's inaction is now difficult to overcome 😆 I have been waiting for ShaKhi's confrontation since like forever... And some more time I guess...


Astha's love for Shaurya had started taking little serious level after he went to meet her in hospital and he was first person she saw on coming from coma... But yet after a point, she has managed herself in a dignified manner by not forcing any haqq on him... But probably, totally my guess and no chappals..., she is seeking hope to be higher in Shaurya's eyes through Anokhi... And hence she is putting her up with him inspite of knowing how ruthlessly her son had once insulted her and Anokhi. .. If Anokhi's love can somehow help him break his soch regarding working woman, she can see/ hope to see some respect in Shaurya's eyes for herself 😆


But she won't really purposely put Anokhi in soup.. She is just hopeful her son has scope of improvement. Plus there might be a time in near future, which I am hopeful for where Astha might support Anokhi and her decision to stay away from Shaurya, earning more disliking and annoyance from her beta...


@Bold - 😆 I was exaggerating and kidding about that line..it seemed little out of place for question like... Kya Anokhi aayi thi... Haan mein khud lekar aayi thi... I also don't think she was outright trying to blame Devi either... Shaurya had specifically asked her who was stopping her from seeing me... So she had to mention Devi's name... And that was such a boost for Shaurya that he got up from his bed and confronted Devi😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: shahsb_26


KV's health issues are Shaurya's inaction is now difficult to overcome 😆 I have been waiting for ShaKhi's confrontation since like forever... And some more time I guess...


Astha's love for Shaurya had started taking little serious level after he went to meet her in hospital and he was first person she saw on coming from coma... But yet after a point, she has managed herself in a dignified manner by not forcing any haqq on him... But probably, totally my guess and no chappals..., she is seeking hope to be higher in Shaurya's eyes through Anokhi... And hence she is putting her up with him inspite of knowing how ruthlessly her son had once insulted her and Anokhi. .. If Anokhi's love can somehow help him break his soch regarding working woman, she can see/ hope to see some respect in Shaurya's eyes for herself 😆


But she won't really purposely put Anokhi in soup.. She is just hopeful her son has scope of improvement. Plus there might be a time in near future, which I am hopeful for where Astha might support Anokhi and her decision to stay away from Shaurya, earning more disliking and annoyance from her beta...


@Bold - 😆 I was exaggerating and kidding about that line..it seemed little out of place for question like... Kya Anokhi aayi thi... Haan mein khud lekar aayi thi... I also don't think she was outright trying to blame Devi either... Shaurya had specifically asked her who was stopping her from seeing me... So she had to mention Devi's name... And that was such a boost for Shaurya that he got up from his bed and confronted Devi😆

@bold: I wish she actually did that. Aise hi half villain ban gayi, pura hi ban jaati.

And I would be happier if she divorced Shaan, married another man and started a family. Nikamme Shaan ke pyar me apni saari jawaani barbaad kar di. In any case, the rate at which he had been consuming alcohol for the past 25 years, it is highly doubtful how much longer his liver is going to sustain him. 🤣

On a serious note, I don't think Aastha ever stopped loving Shaurya or Shaan. Like she told Anokhi how she had yearned just to hear his voice. It is just that she had reconciled to her fate and thought Shaurya had forgotten her. Neither did she have any hope of getting back in Shaan's life. She had therefore blocked out the memories of her past as a survival mechanism. But those memories were still somewhere in her mind which awakened at the sight of Shaurya at Gurdaspur. And her desire to make amends to Shaurya were strengthened by the near death experience she had. The only sight that floated before her eyes when life seemed to say goodbye was that of the time she had spent with her husband and son. Perhaps those were her happiest memories.

Now as you know I always see Aastha in a positive light so perhaps that is my bias talking. The writers may have a different vision of Aastha which they are themselves confused about.

Edited by Idiotboxer - 4 years ago
Posted: 4 years ago
#18


Ikr. Shaurya & Anokhi must have a conversation before they take whatever the step they wanna take & resolve the matters. Warna everything will go out of hand though our khayali pulao's are next level 😂

I enjoyed the blunt replies she gave to Devi 'Bhabhi' the past few days. The straightforward comments are hilarious when we observe how Devi-l appears so scared & dumbfound smiley36 When you say so I also feel a little bit like she's seeking that attention in Shaurya's eyes. Some respect for her. Its sad that Aastha is trynna convince Anokhi by hook or crook but I liked how she had no reply to Anokhi questioning Shaurya's previous karnaame..

Yeah, Aastha loves Anokhi like a daughter, the daughter she never had. That's why she didn't stop Anokhi after a point. She's basically concerned with how her son is literally cornered in the name of love from Devi-l & Tej. The manipulation needs to stop & that's why Aastha wanted Shaan to get involve with the particular matter in Shaurya's life.

I'm eager to see how this would shape up in the future. The hesitation in Anokhi's eyes & the hope in Shaurya's. I just hope the makers won't disappoint in that most awaited phrase of the show 🙌🏻

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Idiotboxer

@bold: I wish she actually did that. Aise hi half villain ban gayi, pura hi ban jaati.

And I would be happier if she divorced Shaan, married another man and started a family. Nikamme Shaan ke pyar me apni saari jawaani barbaad kar di. In any case, the rate at which he had been consuming alcohol for the past 25 years, it is highly doubtful how much longer his liver is going to sustain him. 🤣

On a serious note, I don't think Aastha ever stopped loving Shaurya or Shaan. Like she told Anokhi how she had yearned just to hear his voice. It is just that she had reconciled to her fate and thought Shaurya had forgotten her. Neither did she have any hope of getting back in Shaan's life. She had therefore blocked out the memories of her past as a survival mechanism. But those memories were still somewhere in her mind which awakened at the sight of Shaurya at Gurdaspur. And her desire to make amends to Shaurya were strengthened by the near death experience she had. The only sight that floated before her eyes when life seemed to say goodbye was that of the time she had spent with her husband and son. Perhaps those were her happiest memories.

Now as you know I always see Aastha in a positive light so perhaps that is my bias talking. The writers may have a different vision of Aastha which they are themselves confused about.


I have always seen Astha in positive light and makers might have not analyzed Astha as much as you have... But they are definitely keeping her on happier note for fans...

Or else she wouldn't be supporting ShaKhi.. To be honest, no matter how terrible the idea sounds to many of us... Most fans and people will always love those who support the couple...


Isi tarah she will be villan for us..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Coffee_Chips


Ikr. Shaurya & Anokhi must have a conversation before they take whatever the step they wanna take & resolve the matters. Warna everything will go out of hand though our khayali pulao's are next level 😂

I enjoyed the blunt replies she gave to Devi 'Bhabhi' the past few days. The straightforward comments are hilarious when we observe how Devi-l appears so scared & dumbfound smiley36 When you say so I also feel a little bit like she's seeking that attention in Shaurya's eyes. Some respect for her. Its sad that Aastha is trynna convince Anokhi by hook or crook but I liked how she had no reply to Anokhi questioning Shaurya's previous karnaame..

Yeah, Aastha loves Anokhi like a daughter, the daughter she never had. That's why she didn't stop Anokhi after a point. She's basically concerned with how her son is literally cornered in the name of love from Devi-l & Tej. The manipulation needs to stop & that's why Aastha wanted Shaan to get involve with the particular matter in Shaurya's life.

I'm eager to see how this would shape up in the future. The hesitation in Anokhi's eyes & the hope in Shaurya's. I just hope the makers won't disappoint in that most awaited phrase of the show 🙌🏻


Bass.. This is the only reason why I am giving in to wait till KV is back... To see this and understand what makers have planned for this show😆


Devi vs. Astha was always pleasing and beautiful to watch because she is the only one who can 1. Scare devi and 2. Has strong reasons to bring Shaurya back to him.

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