Aditya holding back the women? - Page 3

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Yet somehow they get blamed with the clearest of thoughts and intentions amazing world it is

Malini has been stuck in a rut in regards to ‘whether he loves me or not’ ‘is there someone else’ for the past 50 or so episodes, actually since episode 1 if we look deeper into it. When you think she got it she turns around again to I have no clue, when she herself says she got it she turns around again to I have no clue, as of now it’s I got but have I really confusing af. So expecting anything from her character as of now is pointless. I’ll look back at her when she finds out the complete truth to see her reaction, since apparently the show is making it seem like it is just now she found out despite the abundant realisation sequences before and is in mourning rn.

As for Aditya, I was so tired of the concept of ‘reforming the misogynist’ or aggressive mls with that underlying misogyny no matter how progressive they make them seem. The idea of a woman redeeming a man was rinsed and repeated so many times in different packages. All I wanted was a male lead who is sorted in that aspect, he doesn’t have to be taught how to respect a woman, is progressive, clear in his thoughts about that without shoving it in our faces and has proper and fleshed out flaws other than rude, abusive or sexist remarks. They have done a remarkable job with Aditya there, he is respectful, supportive, there is no hidden sexism and is extremely sorted in that aspect. All of these traits are just incorporated into his character it’s not something shoved in our faces like some other mls have been made to ke ‘look look this is a very progressive guy who occasionally passes a sexist remark or manhandles the woman but it’s ok because he gives her her basic rights whether it be parhane dena or whatever’ no thank you. I don’t want any giving. I already have those rights. I was so tired of having to watch these ‘supportive’ mls. Supportive until things don’t go their way. Possessive to a scary extent where it just becomes uncomfortable. In the name of romance, itv has gotten away with a lot of toxicity for a long time. And if we’ve been given some male characters without those traits, but who were supportive and decent well then that’s all they were, no other flaws and portrayed as saints,

Aditya’s core characterisation is something I have always wanted from an itv male, a respectful, decent and supportive man with these traits intact throughout his characterisation (because there are examples I have seen of men with these traits but with underlying misogyny). He made sure to let imlie know again and again she doesn’t need anyone and her own identity is enough for her, even when he’ll separate from mun it will be imlie’s choice to be with him or not. He didn’t give her a choice or rights or anything but he made sure to remind her she already has them. And it will be her who decides what happens with her life. Many were frustrated why he needed her permission, he said it best in his own words ‘yeh hum dono ki zindagi ka faisla hai’. He was absolutely right, imlie has to be ready for this change, it has to be her own choice as it is her life and its dynamics that will change forever as well (I think that also has to do with the fact that a major decision of her life was taken away from her and he wanted to remind her she makes the choices for her life).

This is why I was so impressed with aditya’s characterisation. Finally, a male lead who does not have to be portrayed a saint to be decent. He has his flaws and still remains respectful to his core values throughout his journey. I might be temporarily mad at him rn but I can’t deny they have done a wonderful job with his character. Kudos.

Originally posted by: .SNOWWHITE.

Now Malini know Aditya have someone in his life . Why is not she leaving him. He gave her the choice . She can decide what she wanted. But what is holding her Aditya

Well to be fair, we haven’t reached the point yet where malini will have to make a choice. We’ve seen her stuck in a rut of whether this marriage is working or not. She just realised (went through multiple realisations but the show wants us to think this one is the real one so theek hai) that adi doesn’t love her. That he wants to end the marriage is not something she’s thought of yet, abhi toh usse ‘sach jaanna hai’ about adi imlie god knows how much more hints she needs but she still thinks aditya lost interest in her and her marriage is in danger, not that it’s over for good there’s nothing there. From her pov, the excessive pda’s suddenly turned to nothing, it’s the suddenness she’s unable to deal with, that mirage of the perfect wedding breaking, yes somewhere she always had insecurities, but completely toot jayega usne nahi socha hoga. And that’s aditya’s fault with the countless pda’s and false reassurances plus the fact she’s still unaware of the marriage truth, it’s only the love part she’s realised. Abhi abhi toh usse pata chala hai ke he doesn’t love her, abhi shadi ka pata chalna hai and then let’s see what she does. With her behaviour so far, I don’t have many hopes though but let’s see what she does.

Originally posted by: spelano.ws

Well to be fair, we haven’t reached the point yet where malini will have to make a choice. We’ve seen her stuck in a rut of whether this marriage is working or not. She just realised (went through multiple realisations but the show wants us to think this one is the real one so theek hai) that adi doesn’t love her. That he wants to end the marriage is not something she’s thought of yet, abhi toh usse ‘sach jaanna hai’ about adi imlie god knows how much more hints she needs but she still thinks aditya lost interest in her and her marriage is in danger, not that it’s over for good there’s nothing there. From her pov, the excessive pda’s suddenly turned to nothing, it’s the suddenness she’s unable to deal with, that mirage of the perfect wedding breaking, yes somewhere she always had insecurities, but completely toot jayega usne nahi socha hoga. And that’s aditya’s fault with the countless pda’s and false reassurances plus the fact she’s still unaware of the marriage truth, it’s only the love part she’s realised. Abhi abhi toh usse pata chala hai ke he doesn’t love her, abhi shadi ka pata chalna hai and then let’s see what she does. With her behaviour so far, I don’t have many hopes though but let’s see what she does.

I think she will not want to be second woman in his life. It's her big fat ego. So either she will ask Imlie to divorce adi or herself will ask for divorce. It can go either way. It's already seven months, their marriage must end according to original story. It's enough, audience are tired.

Originally posted by: LucyMisaki

I think she will not want to be second woman in his life. It's her big fat ego. So either she will ask Imlie to divorce adi or herself will ask for divorce. It can go either way. It's already seven months, their marriage must end according to original story. It's enough, audience are tired.

No woman would want to be second it’s not really about ego. Both of those reactions would be justified, in case Aditya had any feelings towards her but he feels nothing for her absolutely nothing, so obviously she’ll have to leave him, you cannot force anyone to stay with you. Though it’s the execution I am waiting for whether they make her leave with dignity ke there is nothing to this relationship and the best thing for her is to move on from this man ya phir make it seem like some mahanta ka part where she decides ke un dono ke beech mein se jaaye. The pov makes a lot of difference to me. Her leaving for herself or her leaving cause mahan hai didi will be when I’ll make the final decision on her character. In case it’s the latter, I will lose even those tiny hopes I have left with her character.

Originally posted by: spelano.ws

No woman would want to be second it’s not really about ego. Both of those reactions would be justified, in case Aditya had any feelings towards her but he feels nothing for her absolutely nothing, so obviously she’ll have to leave him, you cannot force anyone to stay with you. Though it’s the execution I am waiting for whether they make her leave with dignity ke there is nothing to this relationship and the best thing for her is to move on from this man ya phir make it seem like some mahanta ka part where she decides ke un dono ke beech mein se jaaye. The pov makes a lot of difference to me. Her leaving for herself or her leaving cause mahan hai didi will be when I’ll make the final decision on her character. In case it’s the latter, I will lose even those tiny hopes I have left with her character.

Are jaye kaise bhi...bas jaye.....ghanta parwah hai hamein uske character ki.🤣

Originally posted by: _Seera_

@bold - right!!??? I mean just can’t help but respect him.. he is like that was ur past I don’t mind that.. then she elaborates further and he is like have u told him?? He wants what’s good for her.. he wants what’s best for her.. he is not best for M ... he never was.. the realization came in the PD hut.. he is well aware that he was not a good husband to Malini but he tried.. and I would take that try over all lovey doves promises!

I find it amusing that he still doesn’t touch imlie! I mean they have not gone beyond holding hands.. but he has not touched her in anyway.. he is holding himself back.. that goes to ur point of MARZI .. he still giving her choice.. space and time.. he is being patient with her.. he is loosing his sanity over it but he is still holding on to it..

I just love the character and his layers.. impulsive.. rigid.. angry bird on one hand.. and respectful.. caring.. rock solid footing.. determined on other.. extreme rare combination but super alluring at the same time!!!

@bold: And yet, somehow he is only judged on the basis of how many lovey dovey promises he can make😆......look at Malini herself in that scene when she cooked up a fake lover....she didn't want understanding or respect from him, she only wanted the mush😆. Whether or not his response was cuz he's in love with her, the point as you said is that he still realizes that he hasn't been a good husband to her and she deserves better than being in a loveless relationship....so he was still trying to give her support to pursue her happiness and love with whomever she wants to....doesn't matter when that person entered her life.

I guess the issue is that he is being judged on is his "neglect" of Malini after 7 years of being with her.....and somehow that is being twisted into blaming him for her current state as if he has ruined Malini's life by tying her to him.....no doubt it is Adi's fault that he married her without figuring himself out or resolving the marriage with Imlie.....but at no point in this entire messy journey did he ever force Malini to be with him.....at every point, he acted based on what he was aware of....he professed love and loyalty to Malini because that is what he thought he felt at that time.....but not for a moment did he COMPEL her to be with him. Malini has always stayed with him out of her own choice.....even now she is doing it out of her own choice. He has literally not ever even tried to physically block her path....lol

Then there's Imlie....which is a whole other situation in his life.😆....with Imlie, there is still the basis of choice/consent, but there is the added factor of love which makes it harder for him to hold back or stay away from her.....which is why in Imlie's case, he makes the effort to balance between his yearning for her as well as always underlining the point that it is her CHOICE if she wants to be with him.....he is not tying her to himself in anyway either....he is simply affirming the facts of their marriage, affirming her faith with his faith....his faith that she is the only partner in his eyes and he will wait for her to make her choice about whether she wants to accept him.....that is a big thing worth noting....he knows Imlie keeps repeating that she considers him her husband but he is still giving her the space and agency to know herself better with time and then decide if she still wants to choose him. So how is a man who is doing all this, tying a woman to him in anyway?

It's another matter that he knows Imlie loves him....but even then he wants to give her the space to make her choice. In terms of him holding back from touching her....I do find it interesting how they've managed to balance that nuance....cuz what holds him back is not that he thinks it is wrong for him to touch her....he considers her his wife, he's in love with her....it is natural that he will feel the need to touch her, hold her....which comes out in the form of the handholding or the few hugs here or there.....what holds him back as you said in many ways is that he always wants it to be about her choice....he senses that she needs more time and patience to grow into her feelings for him so that factors in too. I'm reminded again that the morning after the hug in the hut, one of Adi's thoughts was ki kahin Imlie ko bura toh nahin lag gaya that he pulled her into the hug🤣....and he was actually wondering if that's why she was refusing to go out for lunch with him.....lol so that alone should give us a picture into how Adi approaches this....he does feel they have rights on each other as husband-wife but even then he never feels entitled to anything with her.

This is separate from all the tantrums he throws when he doesn't get Imlie ki attention😆 or she decides to ignore him😆....us maamle mein inse patience expect karna would be too much I guess😆.

Originally posted by: LucyMisaki

Are jaye kaise bhi...bas jaye.....ghanta parwah hai hamein uske character ki.🤣

Well that’s because your die hard shipper heart wants only for adi imlie to reunite, I adore the couple too but execution matters more to me for all three characters as their arcs are linked as of now and how any one is executed would affect the other.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

It is crazy how we are all seeing the same show but some people are adamant on viewing something that is not happening at all. Yeh kaise delusions paal lete hain log to wanting to defend something that is not occurring at all. Aditya has a lot of flaws but going against the will of the women in his life is definitely not one of them. And that’s been pretty consistent since the very beginning.

He has been yelling out marzi to all and sundry. Only thing left is to blaze it in the skies.

I also am confounded many times that instead of viewing the story from the emotions that are being depicted, people still fixate more on whether or not it's EMA or bigamy.....lol matlab we are getting a whole journey of nuanced emotions here but fixation remains on whether or not Adi has "sanction" to be in love with Imlie depending on the timeline of when he fell in love with her😕😆.

The whole fixation on social sanction is such a myopic way to view this story when it's actually about the journey of flawed individuals in complicated situations. As far as I'm concerned, the "when" of Adi fell in love with Imlie is totally a moot point and it absolutely is immaterial to the present....cuz the simple truth is that he married Imlie first, and he realized that she's the only one he's ever loved....what difference will it now make to figure out "when" he fell for her as if that will decide if he has the "right" to love her in the present😕😆.

Lmao, tabhi people say never judge a book by its cover. I think you guys pretty much covered up what is conveyed --- simple tarike se show dekhona instead of giving labeling Ema, bigamy, womanizing guy, romance with mistress, etc. Lol, I didn't see him & even if he's done it, it was with a conscious perspective. Mujhe nhi pata k Bengali version mei kya hua & jaanke kuch faida nhi because it's just a plot execution difference here.

Faltu k long essays/journal articles likne se acha h that watch the some episodes fir bewakufi p khudo. 😆

Originally posted by: spelano.ws

Well that’s because your die hard shipper heart wants only for adi imlie to reunite, I adore the couple too but execution matters more to me for all three characters as their arcs are linked as of now and how any one is executed would affect the other.

Well, that's your choice and I respect that. Then I hope she won't become komolika and play cheap tricks to keep them separated. But the way this devi mata is portrayed onscreen I am sure she won't become negative atleast not intentionally.

My true heart wants Malini to get out of their lives as soon as possible par ye hone wala nahi, atleast for next three to four months. Tab tak jaan khayegi.