Malini didi zindabad - Page 9

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Exactly....it was such a half-baked story....she was talking in such vague terms ki the guy came back into her life and she realized the feelings were more than infatuation....there was no correlation shown for how exactly that drove her to suicide😕.....and Adi didn't even bother to point out the glaring loopholes.

Was she trying to imply that she tried to kill herself cuz she felt guilty over being in love with some other guy while being married to Adi? Cuz yeah if that's what they were going for, it didn't come through......as you said, very mediocre stuff.

She did try very hard with using the labels of jhoot and dhoka for her actions and hoping to somehow provoke Adi's guilt into admitting he has also given her jhoot and dhoka by doing the same things she's describing for herself😆......but honestly it was too convoluted a convo because they were both off in their presumptions.....Malini with her presumption that Adi cheated on her after marrying her.....while Adi with his presumption that Malini has also experienced love away from him so she will understand his conundrum😆

Btw Malini never said in that scene that she never loved Adi and only loved the other guy.....lol while Adi ka claim has been that he supposedly never loved Malini and he's discovered love with Imlie for the first time so again I ask, how exactly is he drawing parallels with Malini in this? 😕😆......dunno if that will still continue to be the case as the story moves ahead.....they might just retroactively tweak it to again claim that Adi "fell out of love" with Malini just like all this forced best friend jaap they are showing aajkal.

Was Aditya just not bothered enough to care? I cannot think of any other reason why someone would believe such a lousy excuse of an affair otherwise. And not like it sounded like it was an affair either....she just made it sound like usne professor ko dekha, feelings came hurtling back and she decided to end her life because she was married to Aditya The I Love You bolo, sach bolo, miss me bolo sab udan chhoo

I do not know if Malini’s jalebi brain is now going to try and use the same for Imlie to see if Aditya reacts differently to that. Like ab phir se pata chala he does not love me toh dekhte hain if he loves that random ladki. Aise karegi toh whatever she wished to happen fervently for herself will be in full display for Imlie😆 I have no idea what purpose it will serve but 🤷🏻‍♀️

Re Aditya and his thought process on Malini - no wonder they stayed together for 7 years. Both of them probably just understood two separate things from each other and as long as Malini did not cry, everything was good. Keeping Aditya in limbo is the only way they can cut him from Malini looks like

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL I guess it was a bit of both? She was trying to link the history of their relationship together ki hum best friends the before getting married and uski duhaayi dekar bol rahi thi ki we never hid anything from each other......but woh bhi jhoot hi hai cuz we do know that she hid things from him during their marriage also.....like that sorry wala poem that Imlie wrote and Malini khud credit khaa gayi😆 lol also during those phone calls regarding fake claims about anu wanting to send her to PD ...lol jhoot bolna koi isse sikhe lol...

AC k lines on malini being unable to adjust such as the privacy in the family, eating with family, whatnot...lol sahi mei didi ne toh sab ulat pulat kardia lol😆

Waise, Aditya expect kya kar raha hai itne bade vaade karke to Imlie? That she starts supporting him? Why does he think she will suddenly start backing him when he is still going on about how mahaan Malini is? Just because he seems to suddenly feel guilt-free due to Malini’s revelation of her long lost love, he now wants Imlie to start fighting back for him? This is why his words ring too hollow. Khud toh darr jaata hai Malini se kuch bhi bolne ke liye but keeps goading Imlie to try and fight for him.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

Waise, Aditya expect kya kar raha hai itne bade vaade karke to Imlie? That she starts supporting him? Why does he think she will suddenly start backing him when he is still going on about how mahaan Malini is? Just because he seems to suddenly feel guilt-free due to Malini’s revelation of her long lost love, he now wants Imlie to start fighting back for him? This is why his words ring too hollow. Khud toh darr jaata hai Malini se kuch bhi bolne ke liye but keeps goading Imlie to try and fight for him.

Suddenly, saying "sab thik hojaega" etc just doesn't carry the conviction that he can tell the truth since it's just suffocating him & it is HE who cannot tolerate Imlie to continue to demoralize herself because he feels low. Imlie has been feeling low & she's seen them for the past 7 months, so now asking how she tolerated it, sorta raises the question as to whether he really is ready to blurt it all out.

Hey All,

hope your having a relaxing and safe weekend.

well where does one start with such a week and such a sensitive topic. As much as it rattled me and the continued editing issues lack of communication and script accuracy one could feel the direction they were trying to communicate. I agree with everyone one point and more but her I go with my take on this week as posted in another thread also.

I said this in my post last week there are alway two signs that one of the up coming danger and the fact of guilt. The concept of guilt and how it would be seen the the wake of such an act.

We all knew the three pillars of the this story would be tested with it there morals and the values but yeh strength to walk out from with it in faith in shock was always questionable.

But I see I the end the only victims of this whole act have been imlie and Aditya whom have neither been able to have a break. One could fee remorse for the loss of joy that should have been a proud day for Imlie was yet again taken away. She was neither allowed to cherish nor was she allowed the celebrate making her way of owning her independence and identity of her own name. The girl has faced so much in the eyes of her own and society but was not allowed once to openly own the stage when she did it was once again showed by the guilt of another. Sigh society and there fickle rules.

Once again Imlie was not allowed to bed herself because of the burden the sindoor brings. No wonder she didn’t want to marry and fall in love either. I can see why she is scared because everyone around her has always claimed and not to forget her mother has been scared by an infilled promise. So yes I am glad she is strict with not wanting to say the truth. What is there to claim when she doesn’t know what she wants from her relationship with him. She needs to find her inner strength to fight for herself and then them. Rupi was right she needs to feel connected her faith again which she has in Sita Maya. How I miss those scenes.

Imlie knows and her fear stems of years of rejection and today the very family not only blamed her for the stress and pain that should be owned by Maline but was willing to abondon her to keep up pretences in the eye of society. Rupi was right only when she walks at the tunes will the love whom she is otherwise she is the spare anchor whom can be left to float on her own. It’s said to say but I feel meethi dream will come true her angel will be left alone in the city. This is where I want her to come and fight for her daughter and her rights guide both her children. For I feel both Aditya and imlie need her. She will demand answers but she will be willing to listen unlike the others whom have passed their judgement without a question.

Well that’s talks me to Aditya once again. His ideology of being faithful and honest have once again failed him and made him fall more in his own eyes and burden of guilt. The guilt of wanting freedom and once where he can speak of his feelings and emotions. How one could see where he asked the whom he is married for a meet. The decline a chance taken away and once again showing with it the control she wants in each situation. Proving that it’s not the persons but the tag of being with him which holds value. We always knew he struggled to build his path to his feelings and when he makes his conviction he is stopped by the worry of how it would hurt imlie the woman he has realised he loves and lives for. The guilt of not being able to protect her by the guilt of having let a friend down. Let’s not forget he has never seen her dominate side or her mannerism. When it comes to judging a character his perspective has always one of comfort. A blind eye cannot be turned to a relationship he has been in for 7 years. His concern his fear of of the unburdened guilt of not being able to see his peace.

For me the cvs having him stand by her side showed a act of strength and very in keeping with his character. He could not abandon imlie when he knew her not and this is the woman he has now for years. As they say the worst you could do is pass off a struggling friend to another. Her spin of telling him she had another was a way to find her way back into him and seek control of his time and with it keep the distance. His suffering is endless but what sadness me the most is that the famliy whom once wanted to listen to there son forgot that they failed there own.

Out of this he has none he can really talk too. Yes he has imlie but even she is on a one track mind. He needed a shoulder to unload and has not been able to do so. He is in limbo between love and duty. Let me say the idea of divorce is easy but walking away is far more complicated. The family see Maline as an ideal and have never seen there son then more of responsibility. The it’s true he is the odd apple in the family one they don’t ever think can do right. This is why I feel he struggles to speak his peace and has found his home in imlie and her mother. They listen, respect and care before passing judgement. As he said once change is constant but his family has never let him own this side of him.

This then takes me to Maline and the whole suffering is an endless wonder and what she has done today has proven it was not an act of emotional struggle but one off lost face of what will others think. Her desire is to escape from the failed marriage but before it she is not willing to own her failure of being able to communicate with the man she claimed to love. She is not ready to listen for each step taken has shown it should be her way or the high way. She knows she is in situation where Aditya doesn’t want the relationship but at the same time she is playing the card of the victim. Having laid all the blame at imlie at each step form the conversation with Dadi to her call with imlie and so forth. Once again one that has been through such trauma doesn’t come out with roses and fairy tales but she had enough energy to plot of how to get him to speak. Sorry I don’t buy that whole act of remorse and it was a mistake. She is trying to bind the man to her and that far more dangerous then the act of self harm. She has seen that with each escape she can have control but the sad part is one day that cage will snap and it will be too late for remorse.

She has no faith in the man she claims to be her love and friend. It showed that when they were together it never really mattered as long as she had him agree to her tunes. It explains why they never tied the knot and why Aditya has failed to see clarity when it comes to her because he has never gotten to know the real woman.

once again with Rupi and her two great scene it was proven loyalty can never buy respect and acceptance unless one has a label that society approves off. Unfortunately imlie has not g out a title and Maline does and with it the golden hammer of making a wrong seem right.

Nobody questioned her act, nobody judged and nobody is will to see her failure in the relationship. That shows you that she will never be question but what can I say when the Aditya famliy cannot offer him a shoulder how will they stand up to her and the pretence after all we have to keep face and keep up with the duty of what society wants but not what is good for our children.

One thing had me laugh my head of was dadi and her blame game. How easy was it to forget that imlie is her grandchild too. How easy was it to forget that they failed another woman. Her son done what she blames Aditya off. How easy was it to fail and see that the mirror doesn’t always speak the truth but I have said this before claiming you want to own the truth doesn’t mean your willing to walk by it. Dev and Dadi will always be with Maline for she is the child they raised and she will always be in favour even when she is wrong and imlie will be the one left in the side. The lack of concern after the donation proved the point above. But how will they own there fault when this is out in the open. It’s easy to speak but will she be as tolerant when the shoe in on the other foot?

As for anu she is like marmite you either love her or hate her but the woman says what’s on her mind. Wish she was fighting for imlie and showing her that the world is not so black and white. But I do feel she will make Maline fight to the very end because I don’t see them letting imlie be happy so soon. For we already know she hates village woman but what will she do when she realise the blood and social status they boost about also belongs to imlie. That what imlie needs from her meet with meeti of not satyakaam whom can remind her to rise once again form the ashes and claim what’s hers.

Let’s see how that plays out. All I know is that I am glad this week is done and with it I hope we get back the imlie we love. Yes the story has more heartbreak in its ways and more sensitive topics to deal with I just hope they have a better footing then the one above.

All I see for know is danger in all angles of imlie and Aditya and the only people that can help are barke kaka and Rupi whom I feel see Maline for whom she really is.

That’s my little rant over and apologies in advance for anything that other may find offence it’s not meant in that light at all.

Lots of love

Raaz

Originally posted by: MuteButton

Waise, Aditya expect kya kar raha hai itne bade vaade karke to Imlie? That she starts supporting him? Why does he think she will suddenly start backing him when he is still going on about how mahaan Malini is? Just because he seems to suddenly feel guilt-free due to Malini’s revelation of her long lost love, he now wants Imlie to start fighting back for him? This is why his words ring too hollow. Khud toh darr jaata hai Malini se kuch bhi bolne ke liye but keeps goading Imlie to try and fight for him.

LOL I don't think Adi is expecting support from Imlie right now when she is being blamed by everyone😆....more like he wants to keep reiterating his support for her😆.

But I do agree that he himself has backed off once again from an open invitation from Malini to tell him the truth (this time she wasn't even doing the panic attack nautanki to freak him out, still he didn't tell her the truth....lol)....toh is sabke baad him going to Imlie and saying "Sach bolne ki himmat jutaa raha hoon" does sound hollow😆.....why make these vows of support to Imlie at a stage when he hasn't managed to resolve anything with Malini and it remains almost as convoluted as ever? Aditya still doesn't get the level of mess he is in vis a vis Malini.

The missing link is Adi feeling a connection to the depth of Imlie's pain right now and all that she is going through in being caught up in this horrible mess.....Yes he acknowledges that the mess is all of his making....and yes, Imlie herself is the type to keep downplaying her own pain while only propping up Malini.....but the yo-yo nature of all this starts diluting things after a while.

If indeed Imlie is Adi's primary priority now, it should reflect in the story.....and I mean beyond things like him not giving bhaav to Malini being in love with another guy😆.....it needs to reflect in his convos with Imlie beyond just repeating the support/saath wala dialogue over and over. And it will help if the writers give us a breather from constant Malini discussions in every damn scene.

I dunno if this has already been discussed but I think one of the most noteworthy bits in the Adi-Malini scene was the way Malini wrapped her hand around her bandaged wrist and said, "Maine kahaa tha na, aapko bura lagega"😆......hella creepy the way she said it....like she was demanding that he feel bad.....while cradling a reminder of the psychotic stunt she had just pulled....in that moment it kind of crystallized that she pulled the suicide stunt for the same reason....to make him feel bad.

But he actually wasn't feeling bad in the way she wanted🤣.....he was giving her pity, compassion, kindness, empathy.....everything except the love/possessiveness she was trying to trick out of him.....lol

So I could only laugh when she started crying after he walked out and she was justifying her lie cuz it helped her learn the truth that her own husband doesn't care if there's another guy in her life 😆.....they are trying so hard to paint Malini as a tragedy but she has totally become a caricature now no matter how much they keep pushing for sympathy *shrugs*

One final bottom line worth noting.....at every point where Adi or Imlie have lied or hidden the truth, they have lied to spare hurt and pain to Malini or to their families....they have hardly ever lied for selfish reasons...it's mostly been out of a thought for others. And Adi was good at lying to himself but when it came to consciously lying, he literally used to die a thousand deaths even over telling a little lie regarding going to Jamshedpur.

But Malini in this scene told a pretty elaborate lie without much hesitation....with calculative pauses for effect every bit of the way....and the entire intent of the lie was selfish....it was a lie told to make Adi feel bad, to make him feel guilty, to hurt him into giving her what she wanted. It's a contrast worth noting even if the writers think they are successfully glorifying her while painting all others as sinners. Adi-Imlie lied to spare pain to others....while Malini is lying to give pain to others. The summary of these characters in a nutshell.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL I don't think Adi is expecting support from Imlie right now when she is being blamed by everyone😆....more like he wants to keep reiterating his support for her😆.

But I do agree that he himself has backed off once again from an open invitation from Malini to tell him the truth (this time she wasn't even doing the panic attack nautanki to freak him out, still he didn't tell her the truth....lol)....toh is sabke baad him going to Imlie and saying "Sach bolne ki himmat jutaa raha hoon" does sound hollow😆.....why make these vows of support to Imlie at a stage when he hasn't managed to resolve anything with Malini and it remains almost as convoluted as ever? Aditya still doesn't get the level of mess he is in vis a vis Malini.

The missing link is Adi feeling a connection to the depth of Imlie's pain right now and all that she is going through in being caught up in this horrible mess.....Yes he acknowledges that the mess is all of his making....and yes, Imlie herself is the type to keep downplaying her own pain while only propping up Malini.....but the yo-yo nature of all this starts diluting things after a while.

If indeed Imlie is Adi's primary priority now, it should reflect in the story.....and I mean beyond things like him not giving bhaav to Malini being in love with another guy😆.....it needs to reflect in his convos with Imlie beyond just repeating the support/saath wala dialogue over and over. And it will help if the writers give us a breather from constant Malini discussions in every damn scene.

THIS! It is like every character is a parrot or a cd stuck at malini ... it is just beyond tiring .. and I am beyond done ...I have sat through isse bhi Bure phases of shows in the past of couples I have loved being frustrated but iss level ka done with feel nahi aaya tab bhi caz atleast they were trying to force a connection hi. Here the only think everyone is saying is how malini is Dunia ka daromadaar and uppar se her tricks and bechargi just not ending can for like 1 min people stop like not more just a min or 2 where they talk about something else anything.. heck for all.i Care sabzi ka bhaav discuss kar lein.. but nahi.. and uppar se adi imlie ka khud se itna bezaari and crumbs ki tarah phenka hua hona.. this show doesn't work without them and ek toh crumbs woh bhi fungus lage ke kaise inhe enjoy kare.. didi exhausts all the patience one might have while playing the episode in less than 10 secs.. jab tak kuch adi imlie ka beech main tukda aata hai you are beyond exhausted to make any sense

Yes adi missed another golden opportunity but then am not sure how it would've worked either with his hey me too .. she threw a Googly and he latched to.it instead of being sure sure. And instead of calling her out apne hi guilt main chala gaya.. which pissed me more...I just wished he remained silent and nikal jaata room se didi phir ro leti.. but all his hosla dena just made it worse for me... adi supportive hone ka bhi koi time hota hai... the support we want for imlie he is making those exceptions for didi. Usko khoon bhi maaf hai while imlie is destined for insults by all.. baaki duniya kam thi ke ab T's have started tearing this poor girl too... any positivity they had is now changed into negativity and it just doesn't give you a reason to even hang in there too.

I just want the imlie I loved..

And sorry people I am just gonna read the discussion now.. plz understand I am soo beyind tired and feeling extremely low to even participate much...

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I dunno if this has already been discussed but I think one of the most noteworthy bits in the Adi-Malini scene was the way Malini wrapped her hand around her bandaged wrist and said, "Maine kahaa tha na, aapko bura lagega"😆......hella creepy the way she said it....like she was demanding that he feel bad.....while cradling a reminder of the psychotic stunt she had just pulled....in that moment it kind of crystallized that she pulled the suicide stunt for the same reason....to make him feel bad.

But he actually wasn't feeling bad in the way she wanted🤣.....he was giving her pity, compassion, kindness, empathy.....everything except the love/possessiveness she was trying to trick out of him.....lol

So I could only laugh when she started crying after he walked out and she was justifying her lie cuz it helped her learn the truth that her own husband doesn't care if there's another guy in her life 😆.....they are trying so hard to paint Malini as a tragedy but she has totally become a caricature now no matter how much they keep pushing for sympathy *shrugs*

One final bottom line worth noting.....at every point where Adi or Imlie have lied or hidden the truth, they have lied to spare hurt and pain to Malini or to their families....they have hardly ever lied for selfish reasons...it's mostly been out of a thought for others. And Adi was good at lying to himself but when it came to consciously lying, he literally used to die a thousand deaths even over telling a little lie regarding going to Jamshedpur.

But Malini in this scene told a pretty elaborate lie without much hesitation....with calculative pauses for effect every bit of the way....and the entire intent of the lie was selfish....it was a lie told to make Adi feel bad, to make him feel guilty, to hurt him into giving her what she wanted. It's a contrast worth noting even if the writers think they are successfully glorifying her while painting all others as sinners. Adi-Imlie lied to spare pain to others....while Malini is lying to give pain to others. The summary of these characters in a nutshell.

This!! What they were lying to save others the pain one could find a reasoning it gave their characters an edge even thought it doesn't make their lies right but the intent matters it makes a world of difference.. it make one actually feel for the 2 characters and most of all it wasn't forced lies.. the guilt they always have had displayed after saying those lies elevated them as characters caz one could see it is not easy fornthem neither are they happy by what they are doing themselves ..woh lack of satisfaction in them made them sail

This woman is not even making a choti moti jhoot ke kahin keh kar kahin chali gayi she literally made an elaborate story only to cause hurt jaan bhoojh ke and then was upset ke it didn't cause as much hurt as she expected.. it put her into sadist category...a category where people take joy out of others pain hardly anything to sympathize/empathize over with...which is why adi's reaction felt more ughhb as a viewer je this woman doesn't even deserve this kuch niceness from you.. she is playing you so bad with the lie and you are showing kindness.. it is he fact that he got playedd this bad and then changed his perspective again towards her ke oh you are dealing with a lot let me be the understanding one that pissed me so much moreee. Given that he couldn't even bare to see her days ago. It is adi in many ways ke help kqrega yet it didn't work in this scenario for.me.given how manipulative she was.. how cunning that lie was

And plz I Don't even want to.talk about the closeup of the bandage using that as a tool to extract emotions the psychotic way in which she was talking about u have betrayed your well you are right when you say you are darkness caz you literally have sucked life out.. you are actually worse than normal.darkness too.. she is woh daayans wala.kala saaya jisse log darte hain..