Covid outpatient protocol

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Seeing the dire situation with oxygen and the healthcare system in India being overwhelmed, I'm wondering if dexamethadone is being prescribed to patients if their sats hit less than 94? It's an oral tablet and for the most part the treatment that has really helped out if most. I'm wondering if it's being given or not to patients outside of hospitals. Does someone know? FYI - it's only recommended when oxygen levels less than of equal to 94. Not recommended before as it can blunt initial immune response.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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We cut down trees, green fields to turn into concrete jungle and today we are in dire need of Oxygen. We destroyed something that was in abundance in the nature and today paying hefty 10-20K for a cylinder.

Had we lived a healthy life mixing ourselves with the nature, we would have not reached this day.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharmajikaladka

We cut down trees, green fields to turn into concrete jungle and today we are in dire need of Oxygen. We destroyed something that was in abundance in the nature and today paying hefty 10-20K for a cylinder.

Had we lived a healthy life mixing ourselves with the nature, we would have not reached this day.

Man, these kinds of posts right now make me wanna bang my head against the wall. You can live in the middle of a forest and still require oxygen cylinders in case of a lung infection 🤦‍♀️

Edited by trouble_006 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Also, OT : yes dexa is being prescribed and esp in govt hospitals. Panic and hype because of Remdesvir hoarding and shortage has led to doctors asking patients family to arrange for it even if not necessary. Which in turn leads to more panic n hype. I have seen people with mild symptoms forcing doctors to write prescriptions for Remdesvir just so they can arrange and keep it handy *just in case*

Dexa works. I have more than 10+ of my family members infected. Most of them are on fabiflu and dexa (on doctors orders and not self medicated) .

Edited by trouble_006 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharmajikaladka

We cut down trees, green fields to turn into concrete jungle and today we are in dire need of Oxygen. We destroyed something that was in abundance in the nature and today paying hefty 10-20K for a cylinder.

Had we lived a healthy life mixing ourselves with the nature, we would have not reached this day.


For one, O2 in air has remained 21%.


For another hypoxia in pneumonia has to do.with the condition of the lung, not the O2 content of the air.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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anything above 89 in saturation..does not need medication..90-100 is normal sat ..above 95 ideal..and in times when people are struggling..i would say it shall be better if anything that can help is saved for those who need it need it..like those whose sat is below 90..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Usually the protocol is to admit if your sats fall below 92 and supplement with oxygen ( A sign you're heading towards severe disease with risk of ARDS). At 93-94 you don't need oxygen but that's when you qualify for dexamethasone. It's been the one treatment in Covid thats has the most reliable results in reducing mortality.

Remdesivir is actually inconclusive; study wasnt as reliable. I think these days US has approved treatment with monoclonal antibodies if started early

Edited by desigal90 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

Seeing the dire situation with oxygen and the healthcare system in India being overwhelmed, I'm wondering if dexamethadone is being prescribed to patients if their sats hit less than 94? It's an oral tablet and for the most part the treatment that has really helped out if most. I'm wondering if it's being given or not to patients outside of hospitals. Does someone know? FYI - it's only recommended when oxygen levels less than of equal to 94. Not recommended before as it can blunt initial immune response.

Good warning on blunting immune response if taken too early. But why wait around to get sicker in the first place? It would be far better to head the disease off in it's early stage before it progresses into the inflammatory stage and cytokine storm.

There are several protocols that have been shown to be up to 99-100% effective if started immediately upon the presentation of symptoms or clinical suspicion of COVID-19. The problem is the protocols cost less than $20 U.S. so there are no Big Pharma profits to be made, and no cash to juice politicians campaigns with.

For example, by last fall Dr. Brian Tyson and his team had seen about 17,000 individuals, risk stratified them and treated over 1900 elderly and high-risk individuals, with 0 deaths and only one hospitalization of 4 days. More recently I have heard that his team has now treated over 5,000 such patients with similar success. They treat with hydroxychloroquine+zinc+azithromycin (or the Zelenko Protocol).

Ivermectin would seem even more effective, as well as working later in the course of the disease since it has anti-inflammatory properties as well, while hydroxychloroquine is strictly anti-viral so it's important to begin within the first few days of symptoms. Ivermectin is also taken along with zinc and doxycycline or azithromycin.

Both protocols are also more effective with the addition of vitamin and mineral supplements like D, C, quercetin, .

I sought out a forum in India because I understand you have had some pretty rough COVID sledding recently and I got desperate to try to help.

Vitamin D is of particular importance as the worst COVID outcomes are invariably associated with vitamin D deficiency. One doctor quipped that there is no such thing as flu season, but rather a vitamin D deficiency season. Quercetin is nearly as effective as hydroxychloroquine as a zinc ionophore (though it doesn't have as many mechanisms of action). You can go a long way toward tuning your system up in advance of exposure to COVID-19.

While the articles on treatment in India I see frequently mention Remdesivir, that the WHO pointed out "doesn’t help hospitalized patients with COVID-19 survive and doesn’t even shorten the recovery time of those who do survive".

In November the WHO even issued a conditional recommendation against the use of Remdesivir:

I'll continue praying for a brighter tomorrow for the citizens of India. These are all subjects covered in our forum. For more information, the gateway to the forum is - covid treatment options. com

Edited by CovidCommando - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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In prior posts I had forgotten this guide put out by the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons that includes a great explanation of what COVID-19 is, the danger (or lack thereof) it presents to various groups, and goes on to detail specific protocols for treatment of COVID-19 throughout its various stages, as well as prophylaxis in prevention of COVID.

"A Guide to Home-Based Treatment of COVID-19"

aapsonline.org/CovidPatientTreatmentGuide.pdf

It is based on recommendations developed by the Front Line COVID Critical Care Alliance.

covid19criticalcare.com/

"As a group of colleagues with over 200 years of combined experience in Critical Care and Emergency Medicine, as well as long-standing shared interests in developing effective treatments for critical illnesses including sepsis, we, the FLCCC Alliance, formed a working group devoted to creating a treatment protocol against COVID-19 in early March 2020. The protocol we devised, called MATH+, is intended for use in hospitalized patients, with an emphasis on early initiation—as soon as a patient develops the need for supplemental oxygen."

This group of doctors also have nearly 2,000 peer review published papers between them.

covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/math-plus-protocol/

"The success of the MATH+ hospital treatment protocol is detailed in the team’s Clinical and Scientific Rationale for the MATH+ Hospital Treatment Protocol for COVID-19 published in the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine in December 2020. The two hospitals that adopted the MATH+ protocol and initiated it early in the treatment of COVID-19 patients (in ICU) averaged only a 5.1% mortality rate, compared with mortality rates reported from other hospitals of between 10–30% during the same time periods, depending on whether corticosteroids were used.

Since October 2020 we regard ivermectin as a core medication in the prophylaxis and treatment of COVID-19. The rationale for this can be found in our Review of the Emerging Evidence Supporting the Use of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19.

covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

Information about the team’s more recent protocol for prevention and early outpatient treatment of COVID-19 can be found on our I-MASK+ protocol page."

covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-mask-plus-protocol/

Many more topics: covidtreatmentoptions.com

Edited by CovidCommando - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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It looks like the genocide that began in India, when the new government chilled use of cheap, generic, highly effective drugs, that resulted in the horrific upsurge of COVID beginning late last year - is about to restart - just as COVID was coming back under control.

covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=760.msg1402#msg1402

"Crushing the Curve"

covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=845.0

"The DGHS began recommending the widespread use of ivermectin as early as April, in direct contradiction of the recommendations of the World Health Organization. Treatment packs were assembled in many states and distributed to patients testing positive for Covid. In at least two states — Goa and Uttarakhand — the medicine was distributed as a preventive. As has already happened in over 20 countries where ivermectin has been used — from Mexico, the Dominican Republic and Peru to Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Bangladesh — case numbers, hospitalizations and fatalities have fallen in almost vertical fashion. On Monday the country recorded its lowest number of new cases in 61 days."

Copy and paste link to see the dramatic chart:

theautomaticearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/IndiaCasesJune2.jpg

"In India’s capital, Delhi, the number of people testing positive for Covid-19 daily has fallen 97% from a peak of 24,000 on April 24. The number of deaths is down by around 85%. Only 17% of the total beds earmarked for Covid-19 treatment in Delhi and around 40% of the ICU beds were occupied late last week, according to the government’s Delhi Corona app. At the peak, there were days when no ICU beds were available in the city."


So what did Big Pharma do through corrupt Indian officials in response to all that great news?


"India’s Directorate General of Health Services (DGHS) has executed a policy reversal that could have massive implications for the battle against covid-19, not only in India but around the world. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives, could be at stake. The health regulator has overhauled its COVID-19 treatment guidelines and removed almost all of the repurposed medicines it had previously recommended for treating asymptomatic and mild cases. They include the antibiotic doxycycline, hydroxychloroquine, zinc, ivermectin and even multivitamins. The only medicines that are still recommended for early treatment are cold medicines, antipyretics such as paracetamol and inhaled budesonide."


The epitome of evil to restrict or discourage doctors from prescribing these extremely safe, highly effective treatments, which can quite conspicuously only be to advance global genocide of the poor. They need Indians to die, but not without wasting thousands of dollars on Remdesivir in a hospital first:


"It’s worth noting that while India’s DGHS has dumped most cheap off-patent treatment options against Covid, including even multivitamins, more expensive patented medicines continue to get the green light. They include Gilead’s prohibitively expensive antiviral Remdesivir, which DGHS continues to recommend....."

At $3,200 a pop here in the U.S. A drug a large WHO study discovered does not result in a significant reduction in mortality or even length of hospital stay, which is why the WHO recommends against its use. Let alone for its horrific side effects on the liver and kidneys - unlike ivermectin, or hydroxychloroquine that is taken by millions of Americans every day of the year for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis in the same dosage as COVID protocols prescribe over just 7 days.

covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=366.0


If the people of India don't rise up against this evil, will they even have a right to complain, as the hospitals stretch capacity and their relatives, friends and neighbors begin dying all around them again?

Edited by CovidCommando - 4 years ago

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