What have we achieved exactly

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Yup that is exactly my question by bringing nishant specifically into the story.. and I ask caz a lot of people were begging ke ji yeh koi toap ka Gola type cheez hai.. iske bina khana hazam nahi hi raha tha.. there was so much spamming regarding him and then the useless Prakash who is another dharti pe bhoj so what exactly has anyone achieved by adding more people in the mela... there wouldn't been aane (currency : translation for penny) ka farak padna to anyone had these people not showed up.. inki job of putting us to 😓😓 woh creepy eyes daadi kar hi rahi thi pehle se who also needs to be sent to space permanently... but stillšŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø the point am trying to make is why people get overexcited for faltu xyz males entering and not just here everywhere where they are totally unnecessary and just become a nuisance of all sorts sooner or later eventually. when a lesson will be learnt to keep patience and let the story play out jo phir jiska kaam hoga woh kar lega...


the funny part is when the same thing reverses as in New random girls entering headlines se bhi pehle Shor sharaba Mach jaata hai.. why is not ok then.. ab yehin dekh lo.. so much over reactions over malini who is married to Aditya BTW and isn't even trying to do anything remotely as terrible as other 3rd angles do but woh bardasht nahi hoti why this double standard..



Just a weekend musing..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Not necessary everyone has the same viewpoint no? Some people watch a show for the ML, some for the FL, a lot for the main couple, some for the drama. A lot of emotions get invested into the main couple most of the time because the story arc follows their travails. And the forum on here is for people to discuss these varying vantage points. No one stance is completely wrong and no one stance completely accurate. To each his own perception.


Very rarely does a story come along which does not have the same amount of shenanigans associated with it that ITV shows have had over the past few years. When such stories come along, where the so called regular is non-existent, people tend to get excited about the smallest of things and it is ok. It is ok for people to want to discuss their standpoints. Does it lead to spamming? Yes. Does it sometimes annoy? Sure. But that’s the beauty of a forum. As long as everyone is respectful, discussions should be encouraged. People participate if they want to. Do not if they do not want to.


As far as Nishant and Prakash are concerned, people realized what their contribution to the show was within a couple of episodes. So everything is good no? Malini is central to the story. I have not seen too much acrimony about her. What most are talking about is why her characterization has not been as good as the other two. So that one’s been good too so far.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't think they were aded just as a filler, they may be supporting, not having that much of an important or a fundamental role in the show, but they are needed for a specific reason, but yes they till now does not deserve the hype!


Like Millani's cousin, they make a big party for him joining and having a big role, but he came for a week or two for the wedding, creating problems and then kicked out.


Sunder bunder šŸ˜‚ , they said he will have an impactful rule to the show, but till now he just show several minutes per episode and some he is not even appearing, we sow him as a servant, yes he is funny, he is refreshing for the show, he do some good scenes, but at the end he didn't have that much of an importance to deserve the big hype over him entering the show.


So the two ( Nishant, Pari ) they are needed for the story flow, to make some situation that would not be done without them.


But for sure they till now is not a main lead material, or even a threaten nor love partner for any of the female lead!


Nishant will never have a love relation with his cousin/best friend wife! It will be just awkward!


Pari will never be a partner in Imlie's life, or any coming male entering to the show too, coz our Imlie is loyal to her faith that Aditya is her only husband.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MuteButton

Not necessary everyone has the same viewpoint no? Some people watch a show for the ML, some for the FL, a lot for the main couple, some for the drama. A lot of emotions get invested into the main couple most of the time because the story arc follows their travails. And the forum on here is for people to discuss these varying vantage points. No one stance is completely wrong and no one stance completely accurate. To each his own perception. Again Something that is very welcomed caz that is what adds The Fun to read the different viewpoints but why is it that those viewpoints don't go beyond the Cliches there are so many things in this story that can be discussed and talked about right from the cinematography to music to the amazing story telling but that is hardly being discussed all we see is the same Thing over and over ... my point being why is there a genuine lack of actual meaningful discussions.. Even if someone wants to do that discuss the various arcs that this story has .... that gets steered away pretty quickly in Lame Directions than it becomes pointless to Revert back too and it happens very often... again something not just limited to this Forum but generally too e.g every discussion ends in Who is the endgame.. when it is a joke in itself to even think that adi malini is that given how the Adi Imlie pair has been executed and the core base of the story is destiny is the King.. and one can't fight it. i really fail to understand what part of this is so hard to comprehend . this is basic core of the show.. so why the same question arises everyday the moment poor Malini Just breathes... and dont tell me you aren't exhausted by that same thing or others members here aren't caz i have seen many of them Vocalizing that who want to enjoy the show /pair/ actors etc all you said .. šŸ˜†


Very rarely does a story come along which does not have the same amount of shenanigans associated with it that ITV shows have had over the past few years. When such stories come along, where the so called regular is non-existent, people tend to get excited about the smallest of things and it is ok. It is ok for people to want to discuss their standpoints. Does it lead to spamming? Yes. Does it sometimes annoy? Sure. But that’s the beauty of a forum. As long as everyone is respectful, discussions should be encouraged. People participate if they want to. Do not if they do not want to.


As far as Nishant and Prakash are concerned, people realized what their contribution to the show was within a couple of episodes. So everything is good no? Malini is central to the story. I have not seen too much acrimony about her. What most are talking about is why her characterization has not been as good as the other two. So that one’s been good too so far.


and that is exactly My point.. When it is a regular story... fine it makes sense why such regular typical expectations and reactions But when it is really Not that then it kinda becomes Lulzy to keep the same regular Expectations .. Getting excited over every little detail is totally Fine and Ok as far as they aren't Exaggerated reactions over the same kind of Repeated stuff that gets proven wrong over and over and over again.. discussions, fun, predictions can all happen without the Same Cliche Expectations.. as i said it is not only just a thing here it is more generally too why is it always that a new ML no matter how thakela makes people go crazy and what exactly do any of them Achieve by the same repeated jealousy rocks expectations but the same cannot be Taken with half as much enthusiasm when it is a woman.. then why no jealousy rocks happen... why is the girl always given names and being name called.. why her mere existence is an issue beyond the character flaws .. like in this situation.. we all are irritated by Malini ( myself included ) but that is more caz of her character being made too dumb and not using her brain not caz haath paakad liya kitna min ka ss ho gaya.. while i have seen such extreme reactions to her simply existing in the show that have no logical reason to be irritated about except that she breathes.. I have my own issues with her and i have made them known so am not trying to Victimize her here but just generally wanting to know.. why such Polar Reactions when another male is involved and a female is Involved.. her character has started to go down only recently yet these extreme reactions to her existence have been there alongside the Overenthusiasm for nishant.. so then the unhappiness regarding her isn't New.. also I have been one of the very few who before too started to feel she was being made extra sacchrine and was starting to lose credibility as a character


Rest reh gayi baat respectful hone ki.. toh I appreciate most members of this forum are understanding and are fully cooperative.. so that is a Plus a huge one.. caz in my long time here that happens very rarely So.. *take a pat on your back all* and i have said that over and over in so many discussions that i appreciate that people here aren't Vying for Blood ... so that wasn't even the point to begin with

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Guiltyo0o

I don't think they were aded just as a filler, they may be supporting, not having that much of an important or a fundamental role in the show, but they are needed for a specific reason, but yes they till now does not deserve the hype!


Like Millani's cousin, they make a big party for him joining and having a big role, but he came for a week or two for the wedding, creating problems and then kicked out.


Sunder bunder šŸ˜‚ , they said he will have an impactful rule to the show, but till now he just show several minutes per episode and some he is not even appearing, we sow him as a servant, yes he is funny, he is refreshing for the show, he do some good scenes, but at the end he didn't have that much of an importance to deserve the big hype over him entering the show.


So the two ( Nishant, Pari ) they are needed for the story flow, to make some situation that would not be done without them.


But for sure they till now is not a main lead material, or even a threaten nor love partner for any of the female lead!


Nishant will never have a love relation with his cousin/best friend wife! It will be just awkward!


Pari will never be a partner in Imlie's life, or any coming male entering to the show too, coz our Imlie is loyal to her faith that Aditya is her only husband.


thank you guilty


and that is what am saying too.. Sure they may add to the story in due time whenever that comes but the over exaggeration when a Male character of any sort enters is over the roof and it doesn't make sense every time how about wait and watch and let the characters play out before Keeping such high expectations and hyping something that ends up being totally meh and Chop ho jaata hai šŸ˜†..


Nishant will get whoever he is made to pair up with we will see when it happens as simple as that.. šŸ˜†

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli


and that is exactly My point.. When it is a regular story... fine it makes sense why such regular typical expectations and reactions But when it is really Not that then it kinda becomes Lulzy to keep the same regular Expectations .. Getting excited over every little detail is totally Fine and Ok as far as they aren't Exaggerated reactions over the same kind of Repeated stuff that gets wrong over and over and over again.. discussions, fun, predictions can all happen without the Same Cliche Expectations.. as i said it is not only just a thing here it is more generally too why is it always that a new ML no matter how thakela makes people go crazy and what exactly do any of them Achieve by the same repeated jealousy rocks expectations but the same cannot be Taken with half as much enthusiasm when it is a woman.. then why no jealousy rocks happen... why is the girl always given names and being name called.. why her mere existence is an issue beyond the character flaws .. like in this situation.. we all are irritated by Malini ( myself included ) but that is more caz of her character being made too dumb and not using her brain not caz haath paakad liya kitna min ka ss ho gaya.. while i have seen such extreme reactions to her simply existing in the show that have no logical reason to be irritated about except that she breathes.. I have my own issues with her and i have made them known so am not trying to Victimize her here but just generally wanting to know.. why such Polar Reactions when another male is involved and a female is Involved.. her character has started to go down only recently yet these extreme reactions to her existence have been there alongside the Overenthusiasm for nishant.. so then the unhappiness regarding her isn't New..


Rest reh gayi baat respectful hone ki.. toh I appreciate most members of this forum are understanding and are fully cooperative.. so that is a Plus a huge one.. caz in my long time here that happens very rarely So.. that wasn't even the point to begin with


@bold - conditioning. It is similar to say for eg., eating habits. If you have eaten the same dal chawal sabzi every day for ten years and one fine day it gets replaced with rice sambar and chutney, reaction to that change might be different from different people. Some people understand and appreciate the novelty of that change. Some people dislike it and want their regular order back.

Same thing here as well. You see the same flying dupattas, same eye locks, same abusive ML behavior, FL unwilling to stand up for herself, and the moment some third angle comes in it turns into jealousy and a supposed love that crops up all of a sudden for years in show after show after show, you expect the same dramatic things in whatever new show you watch. A lot of people are appreciating the organic growth in the story. But some want it to move at a pace they are used to and with elements they are used to.


Where perceptions of Malini are concerned, I think that is because of lack of a villain. That is a very new concept. Audience is like fish out of water because only comedies do not have villains. How can a story this scandalous - the hero is married to two women at the same time despite the fact that he thinks one of them is illegal - not have a villain? That throws everything off-balance. The problem is also with the writing part of it. Everything said and done, Malini has not been as well written as the other two and that gives an opening for people to direct their distaste unfortunately. Hopefully that will sort itself out. I myself am done with the character for now. Will see if the graph improves at all in the future.


As far as the endgames are concerned, I read them and have a good laugh. Again the issue here is Malini is not a villain toh logon ko darr lag jaata hai ki yeh itni acchi hai toh yeh hi heroine toh nahin?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Ooh dear , this was happening before even a new male entering the show! Like ((ishan)) thing šŸ˜‚


I understand what you are saying now , and I feel the same!


As you, At first I accepted and love Maliny too while a lot were just spread negative about her and Adi relation.

Ok now she get on my nerve coz her progress in the story and her role become so irritating!


I think all of this is mostly coming from ppl comparing other versions ( original and remakes ) and not just enjoying whatever this show is giving us.


This all expectations, comparing is just a joy killer!


We all want Adili, we all want Millani to be happy ( at least me! ) but we also need to understand it is a story and it might not give us what we want, or even if it would, not as fast as we want it to be!


I really enjoy the show, and for me among all the shows that I am now watching, it is the only show I think it is a rewatchable material!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hmmmm I both agree and disagree... this is a problem with any person secondary to the main ship. Here at IF, it's Adilie that seems to have the majority of our hearts, therefore Malini is an issue. She's a problem for the "main" ship (used to denote the ship we want since we're not 100% sure of the final, at least I'm not) so she's hated. Whereas in all honestly, a Prakash, or Nishant, or Sundar is not nearly as big a threat.


Malini and Aditya are married. That's a big problem for Adilie to happen. It's a major roadblock and there are definitely feelings and history between the two romantically. And there is a version of this show where they end up together. So I think that's where the anger and hatred comes from. People feel extremely connected to Adilie and Malini comes between that.


But the guys don't have that problem. Because there's no way for their to yet be feelings for any of them from Imlie. She is her BS's patni, and cannot give that right to another. So there's no chance of the guys actually causing a problem, but maybe with them having feelings, BS can finally understand how uncomfortable and bad Imlie feels. Right now the onus is on BS to make steps towards Imlie, plus Gashmeer does the whole "Tadap Tadap Ke Is Dil" thing really well. I too want to watch more of that šŸ˜‰

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The other part for lack of meaningful discussions is most likely the fact that this show is a remake. Even when you watch a movie that has been remade in a language you understand, you cannot at times stop yourself from googling the original version for getting a leg up on what the story might be. Aur yahaan toh kitne saare versions hain. And Gul is also supposedly picking stuff up from multiple places to keep everyone guessing toh audience ka dimaag bhi ghoom jaata hai. Aditya chaahe har baar sirf Imlie ko maut ke muh se bacha le, the moment he gets a tad romantic with his wife, people’s imagination runs wild. Toh lag gayi forum main aag. For instance the whole nightmare thing from yesterday....some people failed to understand that while Aditya is no longer emotionally connected to Malini, she still is and that is why that premonition made sense. But logon ko bura lag gaya. And Aditya taking Malini’s name.....people failed to see it for the guilt that it was and instead saw that he did not take Imlie’s name and therefore AdiLie are never going to be the endgame.

Edited by MuteButton - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MuteButton


@bold - conditioning. It is similar to say for eg., eating habits. If you have eaten the same dal chawal sabzi every day for ten years and one fine day it gets replaced with rice sambar and chutney, reaction to that change might be different from different people. Some people understand and appreciate the novelty of that change. Some people dislike it and want their regular order back.

Same thing here as well. You see the same flying dupattas, same eye locks, same abusive ML behavior, FL unwilling to stand up for herself, and the moment some third angle comes in it turns into jealousy and a supposed love that crops up all of a sudden for years in show after show after show, you expect the same dramatic things in whatever new show you watch. A lot of people are appreciating the organic growth in the story. But some want it to move at a pace they are used to and with elements they are used to.


Where perceptions of Malini are concerned, I think that is because of lack of a villain. That is a very new concept. Audience is like fish out of water because only comedies do not have villains. How can a story this scandalous - the hero is married to two women at the same time despite the fact that he thinks one of them is illegal - not have a villain? That throws everything off-balance. The problem is also with the writing part of it. Everything said and done, Malini has not been as well written as the other two and that gives an opening for people to direct their distaste unfortunately. Hopefully that will sort itself out. I myself am done with the character for now. Will see if the graph improves at all in the future.


As far as the endgames are concerned, I read them and have a good laugh. Again the issue here is Malini is not a villain toh logon ko darr lag jaata hai ki yeh itni acchi hai toh yeh hi heroine toh nahin?


Lol you sure AC doesn't fill that spot albeit she is the unsual villian by ITV standards too and actually has a reason to Be the way that she is again as nagging and irritating as she can be atleast she isn't baying for Blood just for the sake of it


Lol baat wahi hai ke It does nothing For anybody except Jalooing apna aur dusron ka khoon šŸ˜†I wish We all can Learn to overlook and Can all collectively enjoy the show for what it is.. bina these Faltu ki Baatein that create a Divide Generally in every show/forum and creates a strong rivalry to the point that one ends up detesting the very thing they were liking caz of all the Back and forth caz it simply Kills the joy ...


And i would like to mention it here on my part i try to diffuse these Very divide wale sentiments the moment i spot Them caz i have Plenty +1 experience of how these very small things escalate too quickly so yeah i take the Teacher role here i have no shame in admitting that ... but that is only to Improve the overall experience of the show and the journey we all are having with this little place of ours.. beyond that i am not concerned on what happens on any other SM platform... caz i simply do not engage as such and thinking bringing outside fights over here isn't gonna Solve anything except spread bitterness all around ... and i think it will be a huge favor to all of us if we can move on from the same repeated Baatein and Insecurities.

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