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Posted: 4 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: MuteButton

The other part for lack of meaningful discussions is most likely the fact that this show is a remake. Even when you watch a movie that has been remade in a language you understand, you cannot at times stop yourself from googling the original version for getting a leg up on what the story might be. Aur yahaan toh kitne saare versions hain. And Gul is also supposedly picking stuff up from multiple places to keep everyone guessing toh audience ka dimaag bhi ghoom jaata hai. Aditya chaahe har baar sirf Imlie ko maut ke muh se bacha le, the moment he gets a tad romantic with his wife, people’s imagination runs wild. Toh lag gayi forum main aag. For instance the whole nightmare thing from yesterday....some people failed to understand that while Aditya is no longer emotionally connected to Malini, she still is and that is why that premonition made sense. But logon ko bura lag gaya. And Aditya taking Malini’s name.....people failed to see it for the guilt that it was and instead saw that he did not take Imlie’s name and therefore AdiLie are never going to be the endgame.


+1 To all of it here.. The lack of understanding pe overreactions are what's worst.. if one failed to get a meaning or clarity feel free to ask and contribute to it if you disagree with it.. nobody is expecting robots behind themselves.. but plz try and understand first the intention and in what context things happened or if the intent was there and execution failed it.. as it happens too often too.. 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli


Lol you sure AC doesn't fill that spot albeit she is the unsual villian by ITV standards too and actually has a reason to Be the way that she is again as nagging and irritating as she can be atleast she isn't baying for Blood just for the sake of it


AC is not a villain yet by regular standards. Khari khoti suna deti hai aur pati uska hai hi nikamma toh she has her reasons to be the way she is. And her main insecurity currently is that the girl she thinks is her husband’s illegitimate daughter should not break up her daughter’s marriage. She was never one for Aditya and Malini’s marriage lekin jab ho gayi hai shaadi she wants to make sure that it does not break due to the same reasons that cracked open hers. What she does not realize is that Aditya is not Dev and I think Malini is also not her mother. Both of them will by the end of it not repeat the same mistakes of the other two.


AC tabhi villain banegi jab woh Imlie ko harm karegi. And I do not think that is impossible. AC is very much capable of it and may as well succeed in doing some kaand related to Imlie’s life.

Edited by MuteButton - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: PyaarDostiHai

Hmmmm I both agree and disagree... this is a problem with any person secondary to the main ship. Here at IF, it's Adilie that seems to have the majority of our hearts, therefore Malini is an issue. She's a problem for the "main" ship (used to denote the ship we want since we're not 100% sure of the final, at least I'm not) so she's hated. Whereas in all honestly, a Prakash, or Nishant, or Sundar is not nearly as big a threat.


Malini and Aditya are married. That's a big problem for Adilie to happen. It's a major roadblock and there are definitely feelings and history between the two romantically. And there is a version of this show where they end up together. So I think that's where the anger and hatred comes from. People feel extremely connected to Adilie and Malini comes between that. sure they are but if one is watching the show i think they will catch on this Contrast/parallel only that is being deliberately put in there from the beginning why Adi imlie are the right Partners and not everything that shines is gold... and is only increasing the frequency now to show how adi and malini have imagined a whole perfect world and are far from it.. not being sure if the signs aren't as obvious is one thing and ignoring the entire Plot the entire story and progress just caz in some other version they ended up together is a different thing... that brings me to why even watch this version then caz not like what they are showing here is making you look at things with a new perspective caz of the pre conceived notion that caz it happened in so and so version it will happen here too.. that renders this SHOW moot. Isn't The whole point is to see how Adi imlie and malini overcome the challenges they are facing given their Twisted situation and rise above it and grow as individuals? but agar itna guarantee hai ke yeh yeh yehi hai aage toh Phir Toh timewaste hi hai sabka.. dekhne walon ka bhi and banane walon ka bhi😆


But the guys don't have that problem. Because there's no way for their to yet be feelings for any of them from Imlie. Honey Yehi toh baat hai yehi toh main bhi keh rahi hoon .. Ke jab kuch hoga Toh react kar lo .. YOu have no idea the kind of Dreams that are set full imaginary stuff about whoever next upcoming entry is The only best choice and will do this this and that... yehi toh emra exact point hai ke itne poppat ke baad bhi no lessons learnt and the cycle starts again wiht a new entry... why overexaggerate without even Seeing the characetrs make an entry first..She is her BS's patni, and cannot give that right to another. So there's no chance of the guys actually causing a problem, but maybe with them having feelings, BS can finally understand how uncomfortable and bad Imlie feels. Right now the onus is on BS to make steps towards Imlie, plus Gashmeer does the whole "Tadap Tadap Ke Is Dil" thing really well. I too want to watch more of that 😉

Edited by naadanmasakalli - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: MuteButton


AC is not a villain yet by regular standards. Khari khoti suna deti hai aur pati uska hai hi nikamma toh she has her reasons to be the way she is. And her main insecurity currently is that the girl she thinks is her husband’s illegitimate daughter should not break up her daughter’s marriage. She was never one for Aditya and Malini’s marriage lekin jab ho gayi hai shaadi she wants to make sure that it does not break due to the same reasons that cracked open hers. What she does not realize is that Aditya is not Dev and I think Malini is also not her mother. Both of them will by the end of it not repeat the same mistakes of the other two.


AC tabhi villain banegi jab woh Imlie ko harm karegi. And I do not think that is impossible. AC is very much capable of it and may as well succeed in doing some kaand related to Imlie’s life.


mujhe Ac ki cpabilities pe koi Doubt nahi hai😆 sure she will be causing more harm😆 but so far that has been the most Grey charcater in the show and used more as the antagonist only .. so by the regular standards she wins the villain title even though we understand that how she is different from the usual villains

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

mujhe Ac ki cpabilities pe koi Doubt nahi hai😆 sure she will be causing more harm😆 but so far that has been the most Grey charcater in the show and used more as the antagonist only .. so by the regular standards she wins the villain title even though we understand that how she is different from the usual villains


I certainly think she’s close to one but not yet one only because she’s so non-existent/ irregular 😆. Every time they need to increase Malini’s instigation, use lekar aa jaate hain. Similar to daadi. Maybe going forward they will feel the need to use her more and then we see her getting gradually worse.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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What I can comment is just👏

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hi everyone,

What a lovely thread to discuss the wider issues. I totally agree with the wider roof and opinions shared so far. The show has so many layers and with it so many things to share.


As much as new entry creates speculation I feel they here have enhanced the show. They have come to support and official a chance to see the other side of a coin in a relationship. It so true we viewers are so used to seeing the cliche that one forgets to just enjoy the show and go with the flow.

I won’t say that the entries of nishant, sundar or prakash will not have a further role as it’s a gul show but I will say they have provide supper where needed.


One can reflect where sundar went to imlie and told her to be careful of her attachment with the family they may she is family but at the end is the care taker. It was offering her support and a view point we all decided to see but some ignored. Similarly we have nishant offer this fo Maline that all relationships are tested but one doesn’t lose hope so soon.


My mum and I saw that moment not as her character being flawed but one where the writers have shown that it was all about herself. She couldn’t see beyond what they were lacking as a couple. It was a try as my mum said to show that one could have dated for years but it doesn’t mean one saying they have trust you have trust to begin with. You could see it In barka Kaka eyes at the hurt he felt by her behaviour. She overlooked there pain there concern and made it off her. It’s true there are people out there whom only think of themselves.

Her pushing nishant away was once again proof of it. There is more to her then meets the eyes. She may irate but at the end we will see the other shades of her soon.

as for the others I am not worried about the end of the show we are on a journey where love, loss and so much happens on the real world. People’s opinion change, needs and wishes and it doesn’t mean people cannot be flawed so far we have Sen they have all flawed but the most intriguing part for me will how will Aditya correct his compared to Dev.

You could see that Aditya is questioning his inner conflict and yet to learn Of why he feels what he feels. Dev knew and still left the woman he claimed to love behind never left for the fear he could have lost. Aditya has shown to lead within his own life for we have seen he values relationships but he has a lack of understanding emotions.

This is a test he will further experience where he will gain some and loss others. I feel the test for us viewers will be how we judge his actions when compared to dev. The rebirth being a sign of this to come.

the comparison will be drawn I hope between how Maline and Anu both deal with the reality of there marriages. This will be a nice watch and something we will also struggle with. As they are trying to hold on to something which never was. It’s easy to make a mistake but hard to correct. We saw that this week with Aditya he has not meant his words yet he knew he was in the wrong and didn’t know how to correct it yet he tried. Even though he didn’t know why he wanted to do so.


As for imlie I believe her journey shall come she will go out on her own to achieve what she wants but at the same time she will be tested. I feel her relationship status will be put on a chopping block and the family will try and fix her with there own son. Why how and when is yet to come but this will be time where she will learn that some secrets cannot be kept forever even when we will.

They are all being tested and we are seeing a flaw in each that’s what I love about the show that none claim to be high and mighty it’s just we are used to the cliche moments we forget that it’s nice to watch something that discuss topics we wish to see. Albeit they are not coming in the order we may wish but they will come.

And a little romance and longing is not a bad watch to have along the journey too for afterall that’s why we watch a tv show to begin with.


In the mean time I hope with dev entry in Pagdandia we get to see meethi and sataykam have there story too. You can see the live he holds for the woman. That would be such a treat to watch.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: raaz19

Hi everyone,

What a lovely thread to discuss the wider issues. I totally agree with the wider roof and opinions shared so far. The show has so many layers and with it so many things to share.


As much as new entry creates speculation I feel they here have enhanced the show. They have come to support and official a chance to see the other side of a coin in a relationship. It so true we viewers are so used to seeing the cliche that one forgets to just enjoy the show and go with the flow.

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And thay let is the point am making that how about do that only enjoy the show and not be too preoccupied in what will so and so bring and let it go with the flow in due time one will see what who will bring to the table.. the pre conceived notions and constant living in fear ruins the overall experience 🤷‍♀️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli


And thay let is the point am making that how about do that only enjoy the show and not be too preoccupied in what will so and so bring and let it go with the flow in due time one will see what who will bring to the table.. the pre conceived notions and constant living in fear ruins the overall experience 🤷‍♀️

Naadanmasakalli - Lovely thread to open up the discussion - enjoyed reading it and seeing your point of view. I think MuteButton nailed it - people are different and watch for diff reasons. The 2 are not tied in any way and should not be. It does not follow that an intellectually superior or fully invested in show person will have deep insightful observations and a not so serious person or occasional visitor to the forum will comment on superficial aspects of the show. (Just using examples of people types and reasons to illustrate my point - the type and association I give is not an actual relation) Extremely intuitive people could watch the show for time pass and not be emotionally invested in it - but still want to participate in the forum or offer an opinion on some superficial topic just for entertainment , without investing a whole lot of time in what is at the end of the day a story created for entertainment. Many of the theories discussed here may not even have been in the CVs head when being pulled together. The forum itself is a place for one and all of all kinds to weigh in. And thats what makes the forum interesting and discrimination free. If there is a need to prevent topics from going a certain route in a post - it then is up to the topic poster to make things clear upfront - so folks are warned. I've seen some instances where people come to the forum so excited to give their 2 cents and then get judged for their responses.

I personally love this show and am glad that there are so many different kinds of people to share the experience with. The insights that are offered here add so much to the episodes and make the journey even more enjoyable. I enjoy the deep analyses, the forecasting, the worry abt end game (I don't get it but its rather touching to see folks be so invested in the story that they dread it going the other way and it shows in every post), the speculation on how MAlini will go, The occasional mature content posts are also in a way contributing to the diversity of the forum. All of this is to be cherished and encouraged. I'm glad this forum still feels welcoming and discrimination free to me. Hopefully it will continue to stay that way. Story is at a great point now. Can't wait for the episode to air today and for all your responses :)

Edited by PPak - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli


And thay let is the point am making that how about do that only enjoy the show and not be too preoccupied in what will so and so bring and let it go with the flow in due time one will see what who will bring to the table.. the pre conceived notions and constant living in fear ruins the overall experience 🤷‍♀️


True the preconceived notions we have on a show ruin the experience let’s just go with the flow and agree to disagree where a track doesn’t sit well. It’s like we all have said life is never straightforward nor are we all the same. It’s a viewpoint of several writers whom are wishing to sharing what they see and feel and it should allow us to enjoy an discussion opportunity we’re we can learn. Speculation of other past shows the same concept should be kept on the shelf with time people have changed and so have viewers.

I am just happy to see that one can come here and share hay they feel without the fear of having to worry about it. For sure we should be ready to see how both men and woman deal with the issue at hand.


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