Episode 175 Everything is fair in Love and War - Analysis Page 5 - Page 7

Originally posted by: Priya12000

I feel his reason for revenge against vansh which was the entire backdrop to which the story IMMJ even started was very poorly written...It could have been more reasonable..i would have liked if the reason atleast made me agree with kabir at some point...I have always understood his plan especially the DSR one, it just backfired when his pawn went rogue........As you rightly said, i will disagree😉..For me his character is well written.... manipulative, impulsive, overconfident of Riddhima's love for him, the little guy craving for his mother's love who gave his share of love to three strangers which led to his misguided anger towards vansh and his siblings. However, I hated it when the writers turned his character into psychotic one after vansh's supposed death. I wish i could see more of him..Just the golden trio and a good story... i will be happy with the episodes

Tbh I've started to watch because of vansh. His character was better written, other two's character was hopeless for me.

Originally posted by: SexyPotato

Base of his character is so poorly written I just can't sympathize. There was point I ff'ed his scene. I don't find him entertaining at all. His insecurity & craving for 'love' etc where did you see? Genuinely asking. I've just seen some token scene here & there with no substances. You're making sense but as a viewer I didn't see these things on my screen. Writer should have portrayed things this way only but they couldn't portray this on screen. Most of the time we are assuming things.

Tbh I've started to watch because of vansh. His character was better written, other two's character was hopeless for me.

I agree...I am saying i wish i could sympathise...Vansh and riddhima's actions are understandable..But kabir..not so much...I feel his character was well written but the execution was as usual lousy..The makers made mistakes in all the three leads' character arcs. The craving for love is when i saw when anuriya and kabir had their first real convo near the bonfire..I dont know but i could understand him a little bit though it made me hate anupriya forever..If i look from kabir's pov even his misguided revenge is understandable for me..even if it doesnt make any sense........I am saying i wish there was more substance, i wish i could agree with his actions..there was no need for the makers to make him completely negative.

I started to watch because of helly and vishal but i am watching because of vansh..I agree his character is better written compared to the other two

Originally posted by: Priya12000

I agree...I am saying i wish i could sympathise...Vansh and riddhima's actions are understandable..But kabir..not so much...I feel his character was well written but the execution was as usual lousy..The makers made mistakes in all the three leads' character arcs. The craving for love is when i saw when anuriya and kabir had their first real convo near the bonfire..I dont know but i could understand him a little bit though it made me hate anupriya forever..If i look from kabir's pov even his misguided revenge is understandable for me..even if it doesnt make any sense........I am saying i wish there was more substance, i wish i could agree with his actions..there was no need for the makers to make him completely negative.

I started to watch because of helly and vishal but i am watching because of vansh..I agree his character is better written compared to the other two

Anupriya is not responsible for everything. Kabir is grown up guy. He needs to take responsibility to his own action. Yess she had the hand behind his lame revenge. But she is not fully responsible. Even other leads didn't have glorious past but most of the time we judge them on their present doings. So we can't blame anupriya for every wrong doings of kabir. I'm not saying this you particularly but most of the time all his doings get justification because of anupriya's upbringing. Going by same logic we can justify anyone or anything.

Originally posted by: SexyPotato

That conversation when they're disclosing their plan was so rushed & badly written kya bolu.. Whole kabir ka khulasa episode was badly handled. I was mostly rolling my eyes that time.😆 I don't get his 'craving for love'. After that conversation they didn't show any consistency his insecurity wasn't voiced out properly.

Anupriya is not responsible for everything. Kabir is grown up guy. He needs to take responsibility to his own action. Yess she had the hand behind his lame revenge. But she is not fully responsible. Even other leads didn't have glorious past but most of the time we judge them on their present doings. So we can't blame anupriya for every wrong doings of kabir. I'm not saying this you particularly but most of the time all his doings get justification because of anupriya's upbringing. Going by same logic we can justify anyone or anything.

Really..i personally thought those episodes were really good..that was the only time i could pick up his insecurity issues

Coming to your second para, i completely agree. Anupriya is not responsible for everything kabir does.. yes..and blaming anypriya definitely does not justify everything kabir did..to me anupriya is to blamed for the unreasonable revenge inside kabir for vansh..since childhood she had manipulated her own child, shifting the blame of her own mistakes onto vansh...kabir is a grown man yes..but that sown seeds of revenge was planted when he was just a kid and that too by his own mother.. to him. there has been an injustice made, he doesn't want to blame his mother who is rightfully responsible for his miseries. He took the easy route...one which would be less heartbreaking for him

If you see...all our 3 characters have parental issues since childhood.. the way each one of them dealt with it is different giving us 3 different takes on the same subject.

Originally posted by: Priya12000

Really..i personally thought those episodes were really good..that was the only time i could pick up his insecurity issues

Coming to your second para, i completely agree. Anupriya is not responsible for everything kabir does.. yes..and blaming anypriya definitely does not justify everything kabir did..to me anupriya is to blamed for the unreasonable revenge inside kabir for vansh..since childhood she had manipulated her own child, shifting the blame of her own mistakes onto vansh...kabir is a grown man yes..but that sown seeds of revenge was planted when he was just a kid and that too by his own mother.. to him. there has been an injustice made, he doesn't want to blame his mother who is rightfully responsible for his miseries. He took the easy route...one which would be less heartbreaking for him

If you see...all our 3 characters have parental issues since childhood.. the way each one of them dealt with it is different giving us 3 different takes on the same subject.

In initial episodes mostly first 50 writing & execution was quite good. But tbh I didn't like those khulasa episodes. I know that time everyone was going ga ga over those episodes. But I couldn't connect with them.

About parental issue everyone has same issue in this show aryan, ishani & siya. But we can't justify everything naaa. Anupriya is responsible for lot of things but not for everything regarding kabir issue. They should've shown anupriya & kabir's issue more clearly. They had the chance to show their humane side but they couldn't. Even anupriya's character had lot of potential. But maker was more interested to show lame ghisa phita things.

One thing I really loved in this marriage track is vansh & ridz both of them are not being over senti with marriage rituals. They're more concerned about their relationship's issue which is good. It would have looked really odd if with all of this issue they would become emotional over these rituals.

Originally posted by: SexyPotato

Whole shoot out episode was rushed. Even maha khulasa was not great. I really think they should have given more time to that particular episode. I didn't like the writing for that particular ma-beta scene. It should have been more intense & natural. He promoted as the lead of the show he definitely deserved better treatment.

In initial episodes mostly first 50 writing & execution was quite good. But tbh I didn't like those khulasa episodes. I know that time everyone was going ga ga over those episodes. But I couldn't connect with them.

About parental issue everyone has same issue in this show aryan, ishani & siya. But we can't justify everything naaa. Anupriya is responsible for lot of things but not for everything regarding kabir issue. They should've shown anupriya & kabir's issue more clearly. They had the chance to show their humane side but they couldn't. Even anupriya's character had lot of potential. But maker was more interested to show lame ghisa phita things.

I understand. But personally for me it was okay. The show had a fast pace since its inception. So i did not feel it was rushed..Just my opinion

Yeah yeah i completely agree..we cant justify everything and you can see in my previous post that i am not justifying kabir's actions at all. one of the reasons I feel sometimes we could not connect with the mother son duo because of the amma's oscar acting especially in emotional scenes.

But u know I have tried to understand anupriya's POV a lot of times..but she is only character in the show i feel whose actions cannot be understood or justified even a little bit..

Originally posted by: SexyPotato

One thing I really loved in this marriage track is vansh & ridz both of them are not being over senti with marriage rituals. They're more concerned about their relationship's issue which is good. It would have looked really odd if with all of this issue they would become emotional over these rituals.

Completely agree on this..i am loving their dynamics now..they are still gaps in their communication but atleast they are trying now.

Great analysis Priya 🤗 I am late once again due to work and school busy times ahead for me 😆 I actually really enjoyed yesterday’s episode. Very well written equal amount of everything I guess the makers suddenly got a brain or something this track is going good so I hope they keep it going have not enjoyed in ages. I will admit that I laughed a lot. Epi gave me a lot of obsessive and possessive Vansh vibes. Vansh became VR again just to keep Ridz away from the truth. I am thinking there is gonna be something we’re not expecting with this secret. The way he made rules for her I was like we back to original times lol. The way he lifted her so easily and threw her over his shoulder and carried her into the room. She said you can’t jail me and he did. I am sorry but that handcuff was giving me 50 shades vibes 🤣 Even in all this their love is not forgotten they are still together. Boss is very happy to dress up his wifey it was angsty and cute I throughly liked it. I just hope Ridz did not call Kabir 😡

Originally posted by: rheuji17

Great analysis Priya 🤗 I am late once again due to work and school busy times ahead for me 😆 I actually really enjoyed yesterday’s episode. Very well written equal amount of everything I guess the makers suddenly got a brain or something this track is going good so I hope they keep it going have not enjoyed in ages. I will admit that I laughed a lot. Epi gave me a lot of obsessive and possessive Vansh vibes. Vansh became VR again just to keep Ridz away from the truth. I am thinking there is gonna be something we’re not expecting with this secret. The way he made rules for her I was like we back to original times lol. The way he lifted her so easily and threw her over his shoulder and carried her into the room. She said you can’t jail me and he did. I am sorry but that handcuff was giving me 50 shades vibes 🤣 Even in all this their love is not forgotten they are still together. Boss is very happy to dress up his wifey it was angsty and cute I throughly liked it. I just hope Ridz did not call Kabir 😡

It was a well rounded episode

Yeah..the handcuff scene did give 50 shades vibe.all i could think about was Ice check..Handcuffs check and the only thing remaining is chocolate 🙈🙈

She did call kabir..and its understandable..but i hope in the upcoming episodes she doesn't team up or again starts trusting him.

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