This discussion however makes me realize it's always Muslim man n a woman of different religion. Excluding Parsa where the man converts for marriage n Ishqzaat where the guy is actually a Muslim
Does it have something to do with unseen patriarchy?
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This discussion however makes me realize it's always Muslim man n a woman of different religion. Excluding Parsa where the man converts for marriage n Ishqzaat where the guy is actually a Muslim
Does it have something to do with unseen patriarchy?
Originally posted by: canuck-umz
Meri Adhoori Mohabbat with Sabreen Hisbani and Humayun Saeed. Sabreen played a Hindu woman if I recall correctly. Humayun, a Muslim falls in love with her but she is already engaged to someone else. She divorces and marries Humayun's brother. She does convert later in the series but her conversion was not due to marriage. It was a soap so the usual complicated mess lol.
Why did she convert then? Did they give any explanation
Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism
This discussion however makes me realize it's always Muslim man n a woman of different religion. Excluding Parsa where the man converts for marriage n Ishqzaat where the guy is actually a Muslim
Does it have something to do with unseen patriarchy?
Like almost every religion in world, with major help from patriarchy, the "other" religion WIFE is expected, forced, blackmailed, coerced, converted into husband's religion.
Also, im told tbat Islam doesn't allow union between a muslim and a non-Abrahamic religion follower. So Christians & Jews are acceptable but marrying a Hindu is not. Maybe someone who follows/knows Islam can confirm.
Originally posted by: stardust2011
Like almost every religion in world, with major help from patriarchy, the "other" religion WIFE is expected, forced, blackmailed, coerced, converted into husband's religion.
Also, im told tbat Islam doesn't allow union between a muslim and a non-Abrahamic religion follower. So Christians & Jews are acceptable but marrying a Hindu is not. Maybe someone who follows/knows Islam can confirm.
Islam doesn't allow anything to women.
But I find that many muslim women marry hindu and sikh men here in the west, I have been to 4 weddings where pakistani muslim girls have married hindu and sikh men.
Originally posted by: canuck-umz
Meri Adhoori Mohabbat with Sabreen Hisbani and Humayun Saeed. Sabreen played a Hindu woman if I recall correctly. Humayun, a Muslim falls in love with her but she is already engaged to someone else. She divorces and marries Humayun's brother. She does convert later in the series but her conversion was not due to marriage. It was a soap so the usual complicated mess lol.
Yeah girl was from India, boy was from Pak. She got married to some hindu boy played by Adnan Siddiqui but he came to know that she loves humayun so he divorced her. Than she came to Pak.
Originally posted by: stardust2011
Like almost every religion in world, with major help from patriarchy, the "other" religion WIFE is expected, forced, blackmailed, coerced, converted into husband's religion.
Also, im told tbat Islam doesn't allow union between a muslim and a non-Abrahamic religion follower. So Christians & Jews are acceptable but marrying a Hindu is not. Maybe someone who follows/knows Islam can confirm.
You are right . Only Muslim men can get married to Christian or Jews if we have no war with. But women should only marry a muslim guy.
You are right . Only Muslim men can get married to Christian or Jews if we have no war with. But women should only marry a muslim guy.
Thanks Awida. How do you feel about it personally though? Feminist in me is slightly offended.
I consider myself pretty liberal when it comes to religions. You do what suits you, let me do my thing. I have great respect for other's faith and religions even if i ay or may not agree with some of their practices. And i expect them to return the same towards my beliefs (or lack thereof). HOWEVER i would never convert my religion if i am being pressurized by anyone. No matter how long the guy has been my boyfriend, no matter if it is just for legal paperwork, no matter if he is Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise, no matter if it is only for show in front of relatives, no matter if im atheist myself... I WILL NOT CHANGE MY RELIGION/CASTE (OR MY NAME OR PARENT'S BACKGROUND) TO PLEASE OTHERS.
No.. Nada.. Never!
Nahi chahiye aisa pyaar (or university or fame or job or anything that significant) jiske liye I have to give up my identity.
Wonder how others feel about conversion in the name of love or legal procedures. Share away your thoughts peeps!
Originally posted by: stardust2011
Thanks Awida. How do you feel about it personally though? Feminist in me is slightly offended.
I consider myself pretty liberal when it comes to religions. You do what suits you, let me do my thing. I have great respect for other's faith and religions even if i ay or may not agree with some of their practices. And i expect them to return the same towards my beliefs (or lack thereof). HOWEVER i would never convert my religion if i am being pressurized by anyone. No matter how long the guy has been my boyfriend, no matter if it is just for legal paperwork, no matter if he is Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise, no matter if it is only for show in front of relatives, no matter if im atheist myself... I WILL NOT CHANGE MY RELIGION/CASTE (OR MY NAME OR PARENT'S BACKGROUND) TO PLEASE OTHERS.
No.. Nada.. Never!
Nahi chahiye aisa pyaar (or university or fame or job or anything that significant) jiske liye I have to give up my identity.
Wonder how others feel about conversion in the name of love or legal procedures. Share away your thoughts peeps!
I respect you and your believes. I agree with you none should convert just for love. If you don't believe in something don't do it to please someone else. 😊
I am a religious woman. I am not that perfect muslim who follow all the rules of Islam, but I do all I can , or try to at least. 😊
I don't think a muslim woman can rise her children as good muslims if their father isn't muslim. You know children consider their parents role models. So I understand why Islam forbided women from marrying non muslim guys. Muslim men are allowed to marry Christian and Jews.. although not preferable , because the man is considered the head of the family, so he can assure his sons become muslims. Although I doubt it in new age. 🤔
I think love is the strongest feeling in this world. It drives ppl to do things they never imagined they could do. Have you been in love Swathi? I don't judge ppl for choosing to be with their beloved ones over their religions, coz I myself tested love and I know it can drive ppl crazy.😆
Islam doesn't allow anything to women.
But I find that many muslim women marry hindu and sikh men here in the west, I have been to 4 weddings where pakistani muslim girls have married hindu and sikh men.
I personally know four Muslim girls married to Hindus/Jains here in India none of them has changed her religion. One of my Muslim colleague's sister although changed to Hinduism but after three years of her marriage.
But obviously these girls' are expected to carry out the Pooja/culture in their in laws family and they do those.
I respect you and your believes. I agree with you none should convert just for love. If you don't believe in something don't do it to please someone else. 😊
I am a religious woman. I am not that perfect muslim who follow all the rules of Islam, but I do all I can , or try to at least. 😊
I don't think a muslim woman can rise her children as good muslims if their father isn't muslim. You know children consider their parents role models. So I understand why Islam forbided women from marrying non muslim guys. Muslim men are allowed to marry Christian and Jews.. although not preferable , because the man is considered the head of the family, so he can assure his sons become muslims. Although I doubt it in new age. 🤔
I think love is the strongest feeling in this world. It drives ppl to do things they never imagined they could do. Have you been in love Swathi? I don't judge ppl for choosing to be with their beloved ones over their religions, coz I myself tested love and I know it can drive ppl crazy.😆
I don't think that's true. One of my Christian colleague is married to a Muslim boy. But her son follows Christianity and despite multiple efforts of his father and grandparents (they live in joint family) he doesn't follow any Muslim ritual (in India you can't convert your religion till the age of 18 n are legally of your father's religion till then, so till last June when he turned 18( post which he legally converted to Christianity) he was officially a Muslim, lives in a Muslim household and didn't celebrate any Muslim ritual
Other example is of my friend, her mom in a Hindu n dad a Muslim, and she follows both religion calls herself a Hindu+Muslim fasts for Ramdaan as well as Janamashtmi and Navratri
Another friend has Hindu father n Christian mother, she follows Christianity while her brother follows Hinduism
These are all personal experiences everyone selects the religion on their own has nothing to with father having more chances to get the child follow his religion
I don'teel a religious mother can't raise her children as a devout follower of her religion just because their father is of another religion while Father can do it.
Coming to conversions for religion, I think if conversion is needed then that simply means there is no love. A person can love only when there is intent to accept other the way other is. If you need other to change (convert) then that means it's simply an trade off and not love.
Saying that I have seen Pakistani shows/movies whenever have Hindu characters, show the girls just waiting for an opportunity to Islam and just can't thank enough when they get that opportunity. While Muslim girls are shown to be devout who keep their Iman over everything even their lives. This dual standard in Pakistani shows is something I dislike a lot like even we Hindu girls are proud of our faith, there is a reason why Hinduism survived while all its contemporary religions vanished without trace. Just because we respect all faiths and feel all worship paths lead to same God doesn't mean we are dying to convert.
Sorry if that did hurt anyone but that's what I felt
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