Bollywood rekindles its love affair with mythology - Page 2

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I badly want time and resources invested into actual research.

The places you mentioned do exist.

But...

Underground tunnels exist around most royal forts.

The radiation discovery was in Mohenjodaro, not Kurukshetra. Plus, it wasn't atomic blast-related, either, or the mud structures dating to the same era wouldn't have been left standing.

Man with bleeding head. Yesterday, I met a Martian. Please go ahead disprove it. Ie. evidence is not what someone says. Evidence is tangible. Photos, DNA, carbon dating, etc.

Yes, there is a land mass connection from Africa to India. It's called Europe and Central Asia. There is common DNA, coming out of Africa. What you're talking about is Lemuria theory which was rendered obsolete by the discovery of continental drift.

Flood story is in most ancient mythologies, not just Hindu. There are other people in the world with equally ancient beliefs such as the Native Americans. So we can safely assume a massive worldwide flood did happen.

Research doesn't mean reading zany theories on the internet. This kind of silliness will harm actual research into India's past.

ETA. I firmly believe there was a core of history around which myths formed, as they will, given human nature. What we need is rigorous scientific research.

I think you've forgotten than our libraries, universities and temples were burnt and broken down. Alot of evidence has been destroyed.

U want the truth, read the scriptures, make your own version, talk to a genuine person who has read said scriptures and has had a spiritual awakening. Combine altogether and figure out your own version.

Lemuria was the older theory, there's a new one now...https://allthatsinteresting.com/lemuria-continent

I couldn't find my older more reliable source that I had read but this pretty much sums it. And it co insides with the Indian scriptures. There was something there, but until scientists figure out a way to go underwater we can't see it. Tamilians called it Kumari Kandam in scriptures...Manu ruled the Dravidian kingdom...which went underwater...scientists have discovered something else now, they call it by another name, not Lemuria.

The Hindu theories are the oldest about Manu's Deluge, Noah's Ark came much later. Even Ram Setu is older than the story of Adam's Bridge...I read this in a journal from my Uni library, but I am back home now.

I had studied science my whole life and continued to do so when I changed my professional field. But I have also been spiritually inclined and try to always bring the two together.

The one thing I've understood is that science helps us define things within the bounds we know. We fail to look beyond. Coz "ho hi nahi sakta". Just coz we don't see it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

And I have had some pretty peculiar experiences after getting into spirituality, and I am still very much new. Hence I do believe these stories. Some could be true, I've met someone who's had them. So I do not call it false.

There is a power, much greater than our eyes and brains that's created this place we call the universe. There is a reason why Hinduism is the oldest surviving way of life. There's a reason why these said scriptures have passed down since generations and is older than the oldest draft. I am sure of that, it was documented much later.

And yes, I get upset coz I never was taught Sanskrit or the scriptures in school. But its never too late to start. The more I read, the more I figure out. And yeah I'd love some evidence too, no matter how controversial. But to get that, u first need to believe. Till u don't, there's no research.

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

I think you've forgotten than our libraries, universities and temples were burnt and broken down. Alot of evidence has been destroyed.

U want the truth, read the scriptures, make your own version, talk to a genuine person who has read said scriptures and has had a spiritual awakening. Combine altogether and figure out your own version.

Lemuria was the older theory, there's a new one now...https://allthatsinteresting.com/lemuria-continent

I couldn't find my older more reliable source that I had read but this pretty much sums it. And it co insides with the Indian scriptures. There was something there, but until scientists figure out a way to go underwater we can't see it. Tamilians called it Kumari Kandam in scriptures...Manu ruled the Dravidian kingdom...which went underwater...scientists have discovered something else now, they call it by another name, not Lemuria.

The Hindu theories are the oldest about Manu's Deluge, Noah's Ark came much later. Even Ram Setu is older than the story of Adam's Bridge...I read this in a journal from my Uni library, but I am back home now.

I had studied science my whole life and continued to do so when I changed my professional field. But I have also been spiritually inclined and try to always bring the two together.

The one thing I've understood is that science helps us define things within the bounds we know. We fail to look beyond. Coz "ho hi nahi sakta". Just coz we don't see it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

And I have had some pretty peculiar experiences after getting into spirituality, and I am still very much new. Hence I do believe these stories. Some could be true, I've met someone who's had them. So I do not call it false.

There is a power, much greater than our eyes and brains that's created this place we call the universe. There is a reason why Hinduism is the oldest surviving way of life. There's a reason why these said scriptures have passed down since generations and is older than the oldest draft. I am sure of that, it was documented much later.

And yes, I get upset coz I never was taught Sanskrit or the scriptures in school. But its never too late to start. The more I read, the more I figure out. And yeah I'd love some evidence too, no matter how controversial. But to get that, u first need to believe. Till u don't, there's no research.

I understand evidence was destroyed by invaders. But the fact that evidence doesn't exist for whatever reason still means evidence doesn't exist.

There are various theories around, most of which have no basis in reality.

Scriptures were orally transmitted and are now in Panini Sanskrit... the grammarian came way after the events of the epics. So what we have now are not the same stories which was told by VaishampAyana or Valmiki.

The rest of what you talked about is faith. Not evidence. I believe in God, too. But it's important to keep faith separate from science.

I want there to be extensive research because I firmly believe that the core of the stories is India's history. Mixing it up with God and religion will delay such research because people will be afraid of what might be found.

Originally posted by: Billi_Bangalan

Pretty sure that the places and clans mentioned existed and its there with evidence.

Plus since its one of the oldest its tough to find evidence as quickly and easily as the comparatively way more newer religions which were formed only around AD

Places exist doesn't mean that is history. One writes fiction around real geographical places like Dan Brown's many Novels. I am talking about hardcore scientific evidence to show that these events in the Ramayana and Mahabharata happened. Same applies to Greek mythology and the Trojan war. It also depicts real places but it will remain as mythology and not history.

Again, until one finds evidence it will remain mythology. It does not matter if it is a long time ago or a recent one. We have found many evidences of much older civilizations. One can believe in the philosophy of religion, Vedas and its teaching but that doesn't mean all stories are histories. Humans are using some forms of fiction and stories since ages, for example, today's movies. Don't these movies have real places?? By your logic, if today human civilization disappears due to some apocalypse and after thousands of years later survivals might think today's movies as real history😆

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I understand evidence was destroyed by invaders. But the fact that evidence doesn't exist for whatever reason still means evidence doesn't exist.

There are various theories around, most of which have no basis in reality.

Scriptures were orally transmitted and are now in Panini Sanskrit... the grammarian came way after the events of the epics. So what we have now are not the same stories which was told by VaishampAyana or Valmiki.

The rest of what you talked about is faith. Not evidence. I believe in God, too. But it's important to keep faith separate from science.

I want there to be extensive research because I firmly believe that the core of the stories is India's history. Mixing it up with God and religion will delay such research because people will be afraid of what might be found.

So anything that existed and doesn't exist anymore is not considered evidence and if its written in scriptures its still not evidence. Thats what you're saying.

So if we date any particular story even thousands of years ago, we won't find anything. And not for the reason it didn't happen, but for the reason that there's no evidence. And even though planetary positions have been giving exactly which scientists can date back to that time, its still insufficient?

It depends how u interpret it. Lots of European students, specially Germans have been working so passionately with our scriptures. They and their professors feel alot of the answers would be found in those books. It depends on how u manage to make ur version of the story and then look out for evidence. Because you need to know where to look.

Fsirly nee, but it was also said that Rama Mandir didn't exist... but on the site of construction they found broken artefacts from the original temple.

Dwarka is clearly underwater which shows Krishna existed, which means Mahabharat happened, and they've mentioned Ramayan too. Along side that, anyone can see what's happened to Krishna's clan, the Yaduvanshis or Yadavas. They were cursed and have legit finished themselves.

So evidence has always been around, it depends how well one uses the internet, reads the sources and brings together both science and scriptures together. Its upto you to believe it or not. And wherever there's discrepency, research the hell out of it. The entire point of said stories is to make sure the generations after don't make the same mistake.

I never did have faith. I did not believe in the concept of religion/spirituality whatever you wanna call it. What I experienced was not religious or related to faith, it was something entirely different and I've been trying to find answers in evey way possible. Once science failed, I switched to "religion".

There are misinterpretations obviously. People thought that Hanuman ji could fly, but he had the power to jump, which looked like flying. Considering the fact that the heights of people during Mahabharat is said to be around 8 ft, go back a few more thousand or so years to figure out an estimate of how tall everyone was during Ramayana, it makes sense. But again, you won't believe it.

One thing is for certain, these men walked on our planet. Some got elevated to the status of God due to their deeds, the others were something supernatural. Its up to you whether you chose to believe or no.

By all means they should research. I know there'd be evidences here and there. But it depends on how many people are willing to let it happen. This would out a question on everyone's beliefs.

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

Nobody gave a damn until Ramayan broke all records on DD National 😆

And they better stop calling it mythology, its ancient history.

History is a narration of past events that have been documented and verified to be true.

Myths are a storytelling subset of folklore that deal with creation stories, origin stories, and narratives about Gods, Goddesses, demi-gods, etc. Some myths do have roots in history or are embellished histories. Calling something a myth does not mean it is untrue or not history, but it has not met the evidentiary standards to be documented as history. There is a lot of work, effort, and evidence that needs to go in to separate history from the myth.

Iliad and Odysseus are myths. Until the ruins of Troy were found, the Trojan war was only mythical. Today the Trojan war is both mythical and historical. But the Iliad is still a myth because of its an embellished history.

King Arthur, Mulan, Robin Hood - may have been historical figures. But because there is not substantial evidence meeting the standards of history they remain purely mythical.

Sometimes we see real-life people become mythical before our eyes. Joan of Arc was a real person whom people built myths around. When she was living she was burned at the stake for witchcraft. Today she is beatified. The Romanovs and Rasputin were all real people, but now have mythic fairy tales and urban legends surrounding them.

Think of all the Sir Jadeja or Chuck Norris jokes or all the real person fan fiction written. Millennia from today when all the context fades in time people will struggle to figure out how much was real and how much is mythical. Also, think of all the controversy surrounding The Crown to see how blurry the line between fact and fiction sometimes can be.

What the Crash Course Mythology series to learn how myths are defined, what constitutes myth, and discover myth from around the world. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEb6sGT7oD8G8nPbyvObaZUNdfV6kitZQ

Originally posted by: JackSparrowcraz

However, Adarsh shares that making these films can be “tricky” given that one can’t afford to make factual errors, hence a lot of research is required. In fact, about his film Adipurush, director Raut had spoken about the extensive “research and rewriting” that went in. “There are too many preparations underway. From a historical point of view, the notes are already there,” Raut had said.

Hoping against hope that upcoming projects carry an extensive research.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

All TV adaptations are loaded with intentional errors. Films wouldn't be different I guess.

Hoping against hope that upcoming projects carry an extensive research.

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

World's oldest religion, as old as time, but all evidence is expected to exist 😆

Still there is Ayodhya, (Sri) Lanka, Dwarka, Rama Setu, an underground tunnel leading to Rajasthan which is said to have been used by Ravana to get married to Mandodari, radioactivity in Kurukshetra is apparently a real thing, incidents of people having met a man with a bleeding head (aka Ashwathama), the downfall of the Yadu "Yadav" clan, Kayadthas being the smartest Hindu clan in the world.

Even scientists have found proof that a great landmass may have submerged underwater which once connected Africa, South India and Australia (common DNA link is found in ancient tribes). This can be linked back to the story of the Great Deluge or Matsya Avatar helping Vaivasvata Manu saving mankind.

You gotta make the link, no one's gonna spoonfeed 😆 And I used to not believe either until I researched like hell 😆

THIS!

Also thanks so much for sharing these, I only knew of Rama Setu and Ashwatthama till now...

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

Nobody gave a damn until Ramayan broke all records on DD National 😆

And they better stop calling it mythology, its ancient history.

Loved your last line 😍😍😍