"SSR case was used to create mass hysteria, amounting to nothing" - Page 6

Originally posted by: ninny

So just because he was living a lavish life it's not possible that he was bothered by media writing shit about him including a false me too campaign. He wasn't bothered by his film getting shelved after he has given his blood and sweat to it for 2 freaking years? He wasn't bothered by his own industry making him feel left out? . Even Abhishek Kapoor has often pointed out how he was made to feel less by certain people and no he doesn't have any agenda. Also weren't likes of Abhinav Sinha first ones to write angry posts abt industry and then later completely took a U turn.

Chalo mana he was insecure,( pervert according to u) sad pathetic boy who can't take criticism but does that absolve gossip mongers for making him feel even more insecure?

I can agree with likes of Kangu and others using him as a weapon but Manoj, Gattu and even Apurva have raised valid points.

Media writes shit about everyone. So what? Women are subjected to even more scrutiny.. Sonam herself has said she has had people on blogs and site zooming over her body pointing out cellulite.. should she kill herself over it? When a contestant, Bree on modeling reality show was crying over someone pointing out her flaws, Tyra Banks told her she needs to be tough in order to survive, she will have websites dedicated to her ‘ I hate Bree’.

It’s not easy and it’s not everybody’s cup of tea.. even if you make it to the top people will hate and criticise you no matter how many fans you have. I’m inclined to say that he had it easier than women in the industry though they were star kids. People are hating and critical of star kids who aren’t even adults, they have easier in someways but there are several disadvantages and problems that come along with it too, but as they say, the grass is always greener on the other side.

Forget Bollywood, people everywhere will make you feel you are lesser.. even in corporate world people play politics and take your hard work away. All this fussing over being “left out” and “ignored” is bullshit. If you are a decent person, good people will respect and befriend you.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Media writes shit about everyone. So what? Women are subjected to even more scrutiny.. Sonam herself has said she has had people on blogs and site zooming over her body pointing out cellulite.. should she kill herself over it? When a contestant, Bree on modeling reality show was crying over someone pointing out her flaws, Tyra Banks told her she needs to be tough in order to survive, she will have websites dedicated to her ‘ I hate Bree’.

It’s not easy and it’s not everybody’s cup of tea.. even if you make it to the top people will hate and criticise you no matter how many fans you have. I’m inclined to say that he had it easier than women in the industry though they were star kids. People are hating and critical of star kids who aren’t even adults, they have easier in someways but there are several disadvantages and problems that come along with it too, but as they say, the grass is always greener on the other side.

Forget Bollywood, people everywhere will make you feel you are lesser.. even in corporate world people play politics and take your hard work away. All this fussing over being “left out” and “ignored” is bullshit. If you are a decent person, good people will respect and befriend you.

Name how many people had "me too" article written against them without alleged victim coming out? Also according to your logic decent people can't be bullied or made to feel left out? You are free to think what you like but it's a fact that negativity affected him. I love how people here will defend everyone including Rhea even though they are clearly on the problematic side.

Originally posted by: ninny

Name how many people had "me too" article written against them without alleged victim coming out? Also according to your logic decent people can't be bullied or made to feel left out? You are free to think what you like but it's a fact that negativity affected him. I love how people here will defend everyone including Rhea even though they are clearly on the problematic side.

There aren’t any false me too allegations? Maybe you should research and see where it started first in India and you will have your answer. Clearly you don’t follow news. Me too allegations aren’t much; entire families land in jail when there’s a false dowry case.

Being left out it seems? What was he, a teenager? A 14 year old who couldn’t “fit in”. If a grown ass man is looking for validity by trying to fit in, there is something seriously wrong with him.

Anyways, I honestly believe he suffers from a mental illness but it’s obviously not because he felt left out. That’s pathetic reasoning.

There’s is no comparison with Rhea’s situation. Was he getting threats of rape? Was he being called a murderer on major news channels all over the country 24*7.. most people, including me weren’t even aware of his “me too” allegations.. that woman you are comparing him with went through a million times worse and came out stronger.

Originally posted by: aaditi123

Absolutely. I get you.

The MeToo allegation + the blinds + a Broken relationship can have a devastating effect on Anyone, mentally healthy or not.

I also agree with all those playing these dirty politics should be exposed and shamed.

I just feel instead of focusing on Bollywood(he was certainly wronged) or a relationship, we should focus on the mental health issue of it more, the role a family and professionals can play in mitigating this disaster. Because professional rivalries will continue, relationships will keep breaking but with mental health awareness we can make sure the troubled youth are better equipped. There's no more Sushants.

I believe that recording was made available through a Wealth Management Firm. Those firms record everything especially contractually binding talks. Ever called a company and hear an automated message, all calls are recorded for training purposes? Same thing.

Anyways its always nice to talk to someone open with their discussions. Usually it gets pretty heated with the Warriors. So bad that my W/L level is 80% now. Can't even reply to chat messages. One more strike and I'm out. 😆

Always good to hear different takes.

It’s a tough tough world.

The showbiz industry is the worst.. Lot of pressure up there. Sadly people only look at the fame and money part.. there’s a reason why so many celebrities suffer mental health issues and commit suicide.

Originally posted by: MujheMaarjaneDo

Ah the forum is still bitter towards Sushant. Sushant warriors ki aadh leke, taking potshots at Sushant. Sweet.

And these people are totally fed-up with Sushant's case and don't want it to get discussed everywhere.

The same people who made this thread a Hit.

The same people who were blaming SSR warriors for acting like detectives.

Now they are themselves acting like doctors, psychologists, judge and jury.

Talk about hypocrisy.😆

Blinds don't matter.

False MeToo allegations don't matter.

Same people had problem with news channels giving false news against their favorite celebs.😆

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

There aren’t any false me too allegations? Maybe you should research and see where it started first in India and you will have your answer. Clearly you don’t follow news. Me too allegations aren’t much; entire families land in jail when there’s a false dowry case.

Being left out it seems? What was he, a teenager? A 14 year old who couldn’t “fit in”. If a grown ass man is looking for validity by trying to fit in, there is something seriously wrong with him.

Anyways, I honestly believe he suffers from a mental illness but it’s obviously not because he felt left out. That’s pathetic reasoning.

There’s is no comparison with Rhea’s situation. Was he getting threats of rape? Was he being called a murderer on major news channels all over the country 24*7.. most people, including me weren’t even aware of his “me too” allegations.. that woman you are comparing him with went through a million times worse and came out stronger.

With that kind of backing? Ofcourse she came out stronger. More power to her and probably many others. Guilty or not.

Not calling her or anyone a murderer. Why would one, when nobody has claimed it to be a murder, but many who are convicted and guilty by law have come out stronger too.

And honestly, who are we to judge who will take what kind of set back? You need not have to be a 14 yr old to try to fit in. Ofcourse he was a grown man who had worked hard. People look for validation throughout their life.

Why do you think downfalls of megastars lead to alcoholism and suicides and abuses and what not?

No matter how sad this is, people do look for validation.

If we are keen on promoting healthy mental health, it's important to be unbiased. Period.

He could have had all sort of mental illness but we are absolutely no-one to tell how he is going to react to a false me-too allegation specially when he was already a tagged 'skirt chaser'.

Many won't even bother about it , agreed, but some do.

Also, I atleast didn't read any such allegations about any other A lister of his generation. Somebody already having insecurities would be pushed to the edge after people start calling him a rap*** merely based on speculation and *sources*.

Having insecurities is common and acceptable. One doesn't have to be a teenager for that. Different people have different coping mechanisms.

Some come out shocks of the death of their closed ones. Some don't.

You don't call those people cowards or anything because they fail to come to term with the loss.

I hope I made sense and didn't offend you.

😊

Originally posted by: buttercups2020

With that kind of backing? Ofcourse she came out stronger. More power to her and probably many others. Guilty or not.

Not calling her or anyone a murderer. Why would one, when nobody has claimed it to be a murder, but many who are convicted and guilty by law have come out stronger too.

And honestly, who are we to judge who will take what kind of set back? You need not have to be a 14 yr old to try to fit in. Ofcourse he was a grown man who had worked hard. People look for validation throughout their life.

Why do you think downfalls of megastars lead to alcoholism and suicides and abuses and what not?

No matter how sad this is, people do look for validation.

If we are keen on promoting healthy mental health, it's important to be unbiased. Period.

He could have had all sort of mental illness but we are absolutely no-one to tell how he is going to react to a false me-too allegation specially when he was already a tagged 'skirt chaser'.

Many won't even bother about it , agreed, but some do.

Also, I atleast didn't read any such allegations about any other A lister of his generation. Somebody already having insecurities would be pushed to the edge after people start calling him a rap*** merely based on speculation and *sources*.

Having insecurities is common and acceptable. One doesn't have to be a teenager for that. Different people have different coping mechanisms.

Some come out shocks of the death of their closed ones. Some don't.

You don't call those people cowards or anything because they fail to come to term with the loss.

I hope I made sense and didn't offend you.

😊

Im not saying that these things don’t affect. Of course they do, but they aren’t alone responsible for driving someone to suicide. There are some intrinsic mental and personality traits that are responsible too. You can’t control the outside world, people will talk.. but bullying others for his suicide isn’t any better. People don’t realise it’s the same thing that they are accusing others of. I honestly don’t believe that “ignoring” spoken amounts to bullying. It really sounds silly and kiddish to me. Also there’s hardly any proof of what he went through in the industry. From what it seems like he was doing well.

Pls look at Utsav Chakraborty case and all others me too cases in and outside Bollywood. Many actors get sexually taken advantage off too, forgive me if I feel that going through a sexual assault is far more worse than being accused of rape merely based on “sources”. He may be vulnerable at that time, but that’s a different story. What I don’t understand is how accusing anyone randomly for his suicide is alright. It’s downright ridiculous. Not to undermine his suffering or pain but all this is nothing but speculation so what’s the point of blaming others and harassing other people?

All these people who are blaming others are the ones who made a Tamasha out of his death.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

There aren’t any false me too allegations? Maybe you should research and see where it started first in India and you will have your answer. Clearly you don’t follow news. Me too allegations aren’t much; entire families land in jail when there’s a false dowry case.

Being left out it seems? What was he, a teenager? A 14 year old who couldn’t “fit in”. If a grown ass man is looking for validity by trying to fit in, there is something seriously wrong with him.

Anyways, I honestly believe he suffers from a mental illness but it’s obviously not because he felt left out. That’s pathetic reasoning.

There’s is no comparison with Rhea’s situation. Was he getting threats of rape? Was he being called a murderer on major news channels all over the country 24*7.. most people, including me weren’t even aware of his “me too” allegations.. that woman you are comparing him with went through a million times worse and came out stronger.

There is a difference between false me too allegations and a false me too rumors which is not even me too but made into me too because the moment was pretty popular. About mental illness. I agree he was definitely going through something but that doesn't means he didn't feel wronged by certain people in industry. And just because they do this to everyone doesn't mean it is justified. Some people are more sensitive to it, some people don't have a strong emotional support to get through.

And also let's not get into long debates about Rhea. Rape and death threats is something I would never justify and I personally don't believe she murdered him. Now if she is guilty and deserves to go to jail is something that will be decided when the case comes to conclusion but that doesn't take away from the fact that she has been very problematic. Just because Arnab and media went crazy after her and ruined the entire case and also lead to this sympathy wave for her doesn't mean that she is what she claims she is ( a sati savitri innocent girlfriend who took care of a troubled guy) If giving threats to her is wrong then so is making her a symbol of "smashing patriarchy"

Sooraj pancholi gets called murderer and what not.. Do u see long articles about him presenting him as some hero? Shaming Jia's family? Just because Rhea is a woman every wanna be "woke" journalists are licking up to her.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Im not saying that these things don’t affect. Of course they do, but they aren’t alone responsible for driving someone to suicide. There are some intrinsic mental and personality traits that are responsible too. You can’t control the outside world, people will talk.. but bullying others for his suicide isn’t any better. People don’t realise it’s the same thing that they are accusing others of. I honestly don’t believe that “ignoring” spoken amounts to bullying. It really sounds silly and kiddish to me. Also there’s hardly any proof of what he went through in the industry. From what it seems like he was doing well.

Pls look at Utsav Chakraborty case and all others me too cases in and outside Bollywood. Many actors get sexually taken advantage off too, forgive me if I feel that going through a sexual assault is far more worse than being accused of rape merely based on “sources”. He may be vulnerable at that time, but that’s a different story. What I don’t understand is how accusing anyone randomly for his suicide is alright. It’s downright ridiculous. Not to undermine his suffering or pain but all this is nothing but speculation so what’s the point of blaming others and harassing other people?

All these people who are blaming others are the ones who made a Tamasha out of his death.

Then I am sorry you may not be aware of how bullying of adult people effect them. Being a family of someone who lost a relative to office politics, I think I do believe workplace harrasment does f*** your mind. Not saying Sushant went through it, but I was objecting to the statement. Which probably I might have concluded wrongly. Apologies if I did.

I am not talking about any speculation but going by Abhishek Kapoor, kriti Sanon, and many others who knew him personally talked about. I am talking about myself who unfollowed him and cursed him over me-too. I am talking about not even a mere mention of his existence in Kedarnath when he was the one giving his heart and soul. I am talking about shelving or replacement even when posters were out. I am talking about writing him as an unworthy outsider. I am talking about him being called as overachiever. I am talking about him being called a skirt chaser. Whether someone accepts it or not, amongst all his generation, he was on receiving end for many things. No mention of him being a part of women empowerment, no mention of his charities, no mention of education initiatives, no mention of his courteous behaviour albeit, an arrogant problematic outsider.

With 5/8 hits, he was still called names but others are called young achievers with almost every other flop film.

Gradual dismantling of a healthy mind.

That's what they said.

Not to forget, there are external triggers that lead to depression and other issues and inna World so reluctant towards mental health, it becomes extremely hard to deal with it.

I am not blaming anyone for his death. Nor do I support blind blamegame. But acknowledgment of triggers is important imo.

Both, they as a fraternity and us as an audience. ❤️

And family be a little more acceptable of mental health.