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Posted: 5 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Vaise bhi real villain r about to enter d serial , I guess naagmani 2 will enter d serial phir so called adi naagin will hardly care what cheel clan did.

Pata nahi, dekhte hai kya hota hai. But for some reason, I am compelled to believe that this Markaat ke saath Cheels and Naagin ek saath milke hi deal karenge. Aise aasaar dikh rahe hai mujhko.

Most probably after monil death they will reveal to veer about cheel Khandana illegal business & end d track once 4 all.

I also think the same.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: mistofshadows

The epsiode was eye opening.

Thank you for a fantastic review.


Is it wrong for me to say that I can understand Bani clearly now!😅

Veer has as expected become a mixture of Aakesh and Veer. His obsession, love, devotion is still the same. I am sure his edge will reappear again. Except this time Bani will meet a wall instead of him thawing at her attempts to leave him.


But Bani....man she is such a complicates character that I cannot help but adore her. She is flawed, shallow at times as many have mentioned, short sighted, impulsive and of course add many adjectives.

But her capability lies in her ability to stand her ground. No one can force her do something, not even love or fear. No one can genuinely intimidate her. After all, everyone tends to forget that all are alive again in Kalyug because she had paid the price for it by suffering a curse of 10,000 Divya Varsh.


The curse is an integral part of her. Every other soul left the body, and was reincarnated again after ages. Nageshwari meanwhile took the brunt and her soul remained trapped after which she told her story to Brinda and finally her soul was reincarnated and suppressed.

Even suppressing didn't help much and Bani would get dreams and experience weird happenings. Her uncommon life, emotional abuse from her Chachi took route and when she met Veer, her danger radar got activated. Just few days later she finally found her truth and old hatred ran back in her veins.


Is it easy to forget that?


The fact that one decision, single handedly killed her entire race is a guilt she had to live with for eons. It festered and the result is clear. Being a Psychology student, I would have expected her to react worse. In fact she should have torn them apart and maybe that's why Lord Shiva had been adamant about the condition of attack as defense only.


How much did she get as a Shapeshifter in Satyug?

A mere day or at least two.

But then she had to face something she had never felt. Many will say attraction to Aakesh. I agree it was there. But I am more interested in another emotion that is buried underneath Aakesh's obsession and Nageshwari's hatred - Betrayal.


Yes, it is Aakesh's betrayal of the small trust that Nageshwari offered to him that made her into the Bani that rebuffs Veer's efforts.

She had barely managed to feel human emotions when Aakesh had single handedly destroyed her existence. It is not something that can be forgotten so fast.

That betrayal coupled with the reason that his intention was to gain her, probably made her suffer an intense guilt complex or survivor's complex during her curse. Broken, battered and barely sane, it was probably that hatred that was her sole companion; the only powerful emotion she could tether herself too in the abyss of loneliness during the cursed years.

It is this that inhibits Bani.

In Kalyug, Bani has started trusting Veer. And therein her inner Nageshwari starts to froth and struggle. Love is not the question here. Nageshwari definitely did not love Aakesh and neither does Bani love Veer. Yet it is trust that is important because Bani's trust means her entire self. Which is why she keeps on getting mercurial temper changes whenever she takes Veer's side and next second jumps to the opposite side. Nageshwari does not inhibit Bani in loving Veer; she inhibits Bani in trusting Veer.

Otherwise Bani wouldn't have asked Meera to take Veer's help and in the next day half heartedly agree to Jay's plan.

What would have happened had Veer not told his story to Bani? Would he have died?

I would say yes.

Bani doesn't and never had any qualms in committing to big decisions. She is fearless in the face of consequences and would have throttled Veer to death herself had she been the Bani that married Veer just after she had a fight with Teer.

This Bani is different. The change cannot be overnight. She symbolises the light but her Roshni has been shadowed by her hatred, rage and helplessness that the Darkness (Aakesh) had gifted her with in Satyug.

In Kalyug, she needs to find that light inside herself, move away from the Darkness to understand that Veer is not the same Aakesh and Jay is not Hriday.


In fact the story of the Adi Naagin Nageshwari had started with the betrayal of Aakesh and will end with the betrayal of Jay.

Only then the story of Adi Naagin Bani will start for it will mean a closure to the past that Bani had never received.



- Niki


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Wow👏 yes we know that Bani is having an inner battle as Bani- Naageshwari....

For now Bani doesn't love him..but she started to see him in different light...once she is cleared with Noor case and his non - involvement in trafficking she 'll fall for him...or I must say she realise her love... For now She trusts him...

I feel as Bani if she takes 1 step 2wards veer.. Naageshwari comes inbetween...

Bani revenge on cheels is right...except Veer...as Akesh he was punished for his wrong deeds...But as Veer he didn't do any wrong.. so she needs to see the entire truth...

Let's see ..

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Posted: 5 years ago
#53

Dear main villain ek naagin jo ki veer ko mom aur maarkat hai. Veer's mom would thrown out of naag clan .


Did u noticed Shukla said he is vanshaj of markaat when Jay was giving his bali. Maybe markaat is cheel

Edited by deepikagupta9 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: _NINA_

Yes, it's different and it's entertaining. Don't know it will work with the audience or not but for me it's really engaging and unpredictable.

True that! It works for me as well.

You analyzed it well.

Thank you, Nina.

Waiting for that day when she will punish jay.

Me too.

Really want to see them as a team. Their union will make them so powerful.

True. Do want to see them.

Yes please meera aur tapish ko chor do. Unko ghar basney do. Don't want them to become negative.

Meera ko chod do. Baaki dekha jayega. I mean more or less all the Cheels are grey. Tapish does not look grey, doesn't mean there aren't chances of him being a mini villain. The rest are pretty straight forward.

Let's see how they will show markat's character. One thing is clear that she is the main villain of the season.

I think this mystery womaniya is also a maha villain.

Wo sochy na sochy main soch rahi hoon. It high time now tapish should settle down with meera 😂.

Dekhte hai kaun kaha settle hota hai, dharti pe ya swarg me😆

I agreed

👍🏼

I guess female vamps fetch more trps that why makers changed markat from her to she. Now she will be the main villain. Markat na sirf naagin ki dushman hai yeh cheels ki bhi dushman hai. So i hope vani mil kar iss markat ka parda phass karein.

True that!

Veer Definitely needs to use his brain. Dil ky saath saath dimaag ka use bhi jari rakhna hoga.

I agree.

Nice review dear

Thank you ji😊

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Posted: 5 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: mistofshadows

The epsiode was eye opening.

Thank you for a fantastic review.

Thank you. Appreciate it, Niki.😊

Is it wrong for me to say that I can understand Bani clearly now!😅

Veer has as expected become a mixture of Aakesh and Veer. His obsession, love, devotion is still the same. I am sure his edge will reappear again. Except this time Bani will meet a wall instead of him thawing at her attempts to leave him.

Could you explain better? I did not understand the meaning here.

But Bani....man she is such a complicates character that I cannot help but adore her. She is flawed, shallow at times as many have mentioned, short sighted, impulsive and of course add many adjectives.

But her capability lies in her ability to stand her ground. No one can force her do something, not even love or fear. No one can genuinely intimidate her. After all, everyone tends to forget that all are alive again in Kalyug because she had paid the price for it by suffering a curse of 10,000 Divya Varsh.

Her stubbornness stems from the fact that she has suffered the most in all this. Sab to tapak gaye the, lekin usne 10,000 saal ka shraap bhugta hai. Aur woh bhulna to easy nahi. Lekin mujhko samajh nahi aata, that shraap se objectively sochne ka kya lena dena. Woh to Cheelo ke saath nipatne me bhi objective nahi hai. Blind trust ya blind hate ko side me rakhke also, she doesn't convince me in any way that she is the Adi Naagin. Her characterization needs to be fleshed out further.

The curse is an integral part of her. Every other soul left the body, and was reincarnated again after ages. Nageshwari meanwhile took the brunt and her soul remained trapped after which she told her story to Brinda and finally her soul was reincarnated and suppressed.

Even suppressing didn't help much and Bani would get dreams and experience weird happenings. Her uncommon life, emotional abuse from her Chachi took route and when she met Veer, her danger radar got activated. Just few days later she finally found her truth and old hatred ran back in her veins.


Is it easy to forget that?


The fact that one decision, single handedly killed her entire race is a guilt she had to live with for eons. It festered and the result is clear. Being a Psychology student, I would have expected her to react worse. In fact she should have torn them apart and maybe that's why Lord Shiva had been adamant about the condition of attack as defense only.


How much did she get as a Shapeshifter in Satyug?

A mere day or at least two.

But then she had to face something she had never felt. Many will say attraction to Aakesh. I agree it was there. But I am more interested in another emotion that is buried underneath Aakesh's obsession and Nageshwari's hatred - Betrayal.


Yes, it is Aakesh's betrayal of the small trust that Nageshwari offered to him that made her into the Bani that rebuffs Veer's efforts.

She had barely managed to feel human emotions when Aakesh had single handedly destroyed her existence. It is not something that can be forgotten so fast.

That betrayal coupled with the reason that his intention was to gain her, probably made her suffer an intense guilt complex or survivor's complex during her curse. Broken, battered and barely sane, it was probably that hatred that was her sole companion; the only powerful emotion she could tether herself too in the abyss of loneliness during the cursed years.

It is this that inhibits Bani.

In Kalyug, Bani has started trusting Veer. And therein her inner Nageshwari starts to froth and struggle. Love is not the question here. Nageshwari definitely did not love Aakesh and neither does Bani love Veer. Yet it is trust that is important because Bani's trust means her entire self. Which is why she keeps on getting mercurial temper changes whenever she takes Veer's side and next second jumps to the opposite side. Nageshwari does not inhibit Bani in loving Veer; she inhibits Bani in trusting Veer.

Otherwise Bani wouldn't have asked Meera to take Veer's help and in the next day half heartedly agree to Jay's plan.

What would have happened had Veer not told his story to Bani? Would he have died?

I would say yes.

Bani doesn't and never had any qualms in committing to big decisions. She is fearless in the face of consequences and would have throttled Veer to death herself had she been the Bani that married Veer just after she had a fight with Teer.

This Bani is different. The change cannot be overnight. She symbolises the light but her Roshni has been shadowed by her hatred, rage and helplessness that the Darkness (Aakesh) had gifted her with in Satyug.

In Kalyug, she needs to find that light inside herself, move away from the Darkness to understand that Veer is not the same Aakesh and Jay is not Hriday.

@bold: I agree word by word. This doesn't need any comment.👏

In fact the story of the Adi Naagin Nageshwari had started with the betrayal of Aakesh and will end with the betrayal of Jay.

@bold: Bang on! Agreed.

Only then the story of Adi Naagin Bani will start for it will mean a closure to the past that Bani had never received.

True that!

- Niki


#JustMyOpinion

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Posted: 5 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Dear main villain ek naagin jo ki veer ko mom aur maarkat hai. Veer's mom would thrown out of naag clan .

I think Markaat aur Taikhaane wali maata dono alag hai. But I may be wrong.

Did u noticed Shukla said he is vanshaj of markaat when Jay was giving his bali. Maybe markaat is cheel

Ho sakta hai.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: So_much_khushii


Bani meri samjh se bahar h even mujhe doubt h ki wo khud ki samjh se bhi bahar hi hogi 😆

Haha exactly ussey khud samjh nhi araha k wo kya chahti hai. Pehly veer ko marney ly kar jati hai jungle main phir usko aisy bachati hai jissey veer uski zindagi ho.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: libran90

And I was waiting for you. Kyunki mujhko laga ki you had much more to say.😆

I agree that I want to see some separation. Like I never imagined, I am saying this, but it has become important. Bani needs to realize Veeranshu's value as well as overcome her own failings. Uss ghar me rehke kitna ho payega, pata nahi. So it is required. But pata nahi aisa hoga ya nahi. Lagta nahi hoga.

Mujhe lagta hai it isn't going to take place now but after a while. Maybe possibly when quite a lot of drama happens. I mean if Veer's mom is a vamp, she hundred percent will not let Veer leave the house because she doesn't want to let this huge chance slip to get Adi Naagin's powers or the Naagmani.

Bani is putting some thought into her role as Adi Naagin, after the Paraag pahadi incident. I mean she did save Veeranshu, but I think she has started thinking about other things. About Satyug, about Kalyug. She emphasized on justice for all. Does that imply that Jai will also be a part of it??

I think that when she finds out about what he has done, she will give the right judgement according to all he would have done till then. He wants to kill Bani and take all her powers. So, Bani needs to act according to it. Bani will definitely put Jay up for his crimes. His crime is that of betrayal against Adi Naagin. All of that has to happen when Bani finds out his truth.

Coming to Veeranshu, he is Cheel Rajkumar, but he certainly needs to take his role and duties seriously. It's not just about loving Bani. But his love for Bani will make him set an example for all the Cheels. He has strong ethical standards, but he needs to put that to use. He lacks a strong sense of justice because his emotions get the best of him. if he wants to be King, he needs to make tough decisions. Is he ready to do that yet? Can he bring this family of his to justice? He needs the ferocity and steadfastness of Adi Naagin. Similarly, Bani needs objective thinking, needs to figure out her enemies which have many faces, be it Jai or someone else. She needs the foresight and vision of a Cheel Rajkumar.

I really hope we get to see the separation which can put things in perspective for them and unites them so that cannot be ripped apart again.

Exactly what I'm thinking. In the end Veer has to take his place as the Prince and for that he has to know what it means to be the prince. Like I felt that Aakesh was in tune with the fact that he was Cheel Rajkumar. For Veer to start his journey towards Bani, he has to find his sense of right and wrong. Bani strongly stands for justice and Veer also has to learn that to have a deeper connection with Bani. Emotions cloud his judgement. Just like how Bani trusts Jay, Veer trusts that Ballu isn't hiding anything from him. That's why he hasn't ever found out about all the things Ballu does behind his back.

Veer has to see it from Bani's point of view. Then he'll understand what is happening. His ethical standards will play out. That's when Bani had to step in and tell him why it is important to put his personal feelings aside.


Though I have to admit, it is a fresh change from all the serials where the female lead has these issues. Like she's so in love with the male lead and she has to go through these trials of love and all.

I want Veer's ethical standards and Aakesh's ferocity in him. Aakesh knew he has to stand up for his people. Like he got so angry when he found out that some of the cheels were killed and decided to fly out to take revenge in the clear daylight. That shows that Aakesh tuned himself as the Cheel Rajkumar but if course he lack the ethical standards and the ability to distinguish right and wrong. Veer knows the difference in right and wrong but only gets weak in case of his family.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: libran90

I am aware of the same. But I think after Monil's death, they could show a separation track for VAni. Will give the much-needed push to Bani to accept those budding feelings and will offer her an objective perspective to her maqsad and her enemies. So, let's see.

Monil's death will be followed by sasuma's entry, so for the drama to unfold, both Veer & Bani have to stay together. Even I want to see a temporary separation track between them, but since it is a finite show they can probably show a minimal separation phase for a few days. Just a guess.
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Posted: 5 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

Monil's death will be followed by sasuma's entry, so for the drama to unfold, both Veer & Bani have to stay together. Even I want to see a temporary separation track between them, but since it is a finite show they can probably show a minimal separation phase for a few days. Just a guess.

For finite show standards, aren't they going a bit slow in terms of the love story then? Generally, its a 6 months season, right? 3 months already passed!

Maybe, as you had said in one of the posts, they could actually show, uniting them at the end probably, I just feel so!

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