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Posted: 4 years ago
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Am i the only one kind of bummed about Shravan not being Major, as unrealistic as it may have been. I would rather it be showed as an exception just for the sheer sake of seeing Brig. Tiwari's expression.

His whole civillian over army debate is practically redundent now because Shravan is in the army too. I would have loved seeing that the same civilian / civilian's son now holds a rank above his army background grand daughter and at such a young age because he's that exceptional when he puts his mind too it.


They could have credited the promotion to his sankipan i.e his risk taking ability and show that it actually stems for his disregard for his life and the want to prove himself.


Also would like to see the complexity of Shravan bitter towards Suman but also invariably all of his actions being motivated by her in some way. Like he wanted to prove that he wasn't a mistake and it was her mistake for doubting him.


Btw, i totally understand Suman's point of view and like the change in her. It isn't unexpected that she reacted the way she did given the situation, her upbringing, personality and that last email from Vijay. But somewhere i do want to see her feel proud of Shravan's accomplishments despite of their feelings towards each other.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: misfit007

Am i the only one kind of bummed about Shravan not being Major, as unrealistic as it may have been. I would rather it be showed as an exception just for the sheer sake of seeing Brig. Tiwari's expression. I won't comment now as to why he was shifted from major to captain but some members said he needs 8-11 years to attain that rank + he's gotten complaints from his senior so it doesn't look like so unless there is something planned but for now, it is what it is.

His whole civillian over army debate is practically redundent now because Shravan is in the army too. I would have loved seeing that the same civilian / civilian's son now holds a rank above his army background grand daughter and at such a young age because he's that exceptional when he puts his mind too it. On a principle side, yes he deserves an applause for his thought process but there are reasons like some people might bash the CVs for treating FL lower rank than the ML & all the hogwash. It's better to show him at a rank that is attainable / equivalent to that of Suman.


They could have credited the promotion to his sankipan i.e his risk taking ability and show that it actually stems for his disregard for his life and the want to prove himself. While being daredevil/crazy is okay with this time him actually entering the enemy's area for a bet with his colleague, he had a narrow escape other faced seized-firing situation as capt basi said. But being a captain doesn't demotivate one. It's still quite a high rank in the military.


Also would like to see the complexity of Shravan bitter towards Suman but also invariably all of his actions being motivated by her in some way. Like he wanted to prove that he wasn't a mistake and it was her mistake for doubting him. Well, that would be interesting to see. Earlier, she used to encourage him to participate in events he hated or preferred not to do so. Now, he can still show the same worth but saying that she made a mistake of misjudging him as a "potential cause" of destroying her life all thanks to her assumption that "Vijay's death made her face a thing that she never really thought of." I feel somehow like Vijay and Devraj's incomplete attempt to reconcile is quite parallel to SuVan's attempt to reconcile, with love angle being involved. Like what happened to fathers, will it be the same fate with the kids?


Btw, i totally understand Suman's point of view and like the change in her. It isn't unexpected that she reacted the way she did given the situation, her upbringing, personality and that last email from Vijay. But somewhere i do want to see her feel proud of Shravan's accomplishments despite of their feelings towards each other. Yeah, plus even Anjali's demise which made demotivated to stay in Bhopal + her moments with Shravan. So, a bitterness has developed especially with both of em wanting to close the case ASAP with the verdict being passed on the either of their sides.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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No because that a would make it seem like Suman is not that exceptional which really shouldn't be the point either. If they want to show dedication is important then they have to value Suman as well who worked hard her whole life to succeed while Shravan goofed off in his school years. Dadu was a jerk but frankly Shravan deserved a lot of flak he got for stealing that army jacket in the first scene. For me they are in different fields which I appreciate. It should not be made to be made into a competition between them even just for Dadu.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: malikakas

No because that a would make it seem like Suman is not that exceptional which really shouldn't be the point either. If they want to show dedication is important then they have to value Suman as well who worked hard her whole life to succeed while Shravan goofed off in his school years. Dadu was a jerk but frankly Shravan deserved a lot of flak he got for stealing that army jacket in the first scene. For me they are in different fields which I appreciate. It should not be made to be made into a competition between them even just for Dadu.

Idk if this is a factor too because then a lot of people would criticize the writers or something over making the FL more on lower rank than ML. Both are equivalent but have different mechanisms to deal with situations.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Meena_J

Idk if this is a factor too because then a lot of people would criticize the writers or something over making the FL more on lower rank than ML. Both are equivalent but have different mechanisms to deal with situations.

Also from a story perspective its just as important for Suman to succeed to show that falling in love wasn't something that pulled her away from her goals. Her entire identity has always been related around her army goals. Yet she still chose Shravan when he was a civilian. She already disappointed Dadu by falling for Shravan. She already lost the person who would have been most proud of her because of her relationship with Shravan. So I don't see why she should be seen as less successful in order to satisfy the go battle between Shravan and Dadu. I think Shravan just making it in the army is enough. But if they really want they could use Anish for that purpose.


@bold: maybe in another field it wouldn't be an issue. But the army is especially known as a boy's club (although that occurs in a lot of other professional domains as well). Recently the government's argument against permanent commissions for women was that men would have a hard time talking orders from a woman. Unfortunately Indian society is patriarchal. So it just wouldn't be a great message.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I'm a little bummed that shravan is a higher rank. I think the story has enough if both sumo n shravan were same rank too. Sumo had worked hard all her life and she deserves to do well professionally. Look forward to seeing how they interact with each other....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeraja91

I'm a little bummed that shravan is a higher rank. I think the story has enough if both sumo n shravan were same rank too. Sumo had worked hard all her life and she deserves to do well professionally. Look forward to seeing how they interact with each other....

They are both the same rank right now. Where did you come across that he is a higher rank?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: malikakas

Also from a story perspective its just as important for Suman to succeed to show that falling in love wasn't something that pulled her away from her goals. Her entire identity has always been related around her army goals. Yet she still chose Shravan when he was a civilian. She already disappointed Dadu by falling for Shravan. She already lost the person who would have been most proud of her because of her relationship with Shravan. So I don't see why she should be seen as less successful in order to satisfy the go battle between Shravan and Dadu. I think Shravan just making it in the army is enough. But if they really want they could use Anish for that purpose.


@bold: maybe in another field it wouldn't be an issue. But the army is especially known as a boy's club (although that occurs in a lot of other professional domains as well). Recently the government's argument against permanent commissions for women was that men would have a hard time talking orders from a woman. Unfortunately Indian society is patriarchal. So it just wouldn't be a great message.

lmao fir we expect ego clashes in the army kya? shravan seemed to mature up from this & even anish figured from the fort scene that shravan doesnt mind taking risks for suman even if it involves her honor..


yeah its more male-dominated so wouldnt be easy to swallow this pill i guess..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeraja91

I'm a little bummed that shravan is a higher rank. I think the story has enough if both sumo n shravan were same rank too. Sumo had worked hard all her life and she deserves to do well professionally. Look forward to seeing how they interact with each other....

they are both captains as of now...initially promos did show him as a major but we members were discussing the path to the military ranks esp for men n women in the army few threads back or something....so for now, they are both captains of their respective regimen dear
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Meena_J

lmao fir we expect ego clashes in the army kya? shravan seemed to mature up from this & even anish figured from the fort scene that shravan doesnt mind taking risks for suman even if it involves her honor..


yeah its more male-dominated so wouldnt be easy to swallow this pill i guess..

They wouldn't have to bring Anish back as a cast member.... but just Dadu commenting that Anish is a lieutenant despite all the training he gave him. 😆

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