Major Captain - Page 2

Originally posted by: malikakas

They wouldn't have to bring Anish back as a cast member.... but just Dadu commenting that Anish is a lieutenant despite all the training he gave him. 😆

Originally posted by: Meena_J

lol is he's back too? sorry i dont know this lolz or perhaps i missed as clarity wasnt provided on their roles post leap...it can make sense for him to be in the military hence clashes but if they make the new 3rd angle despo or whtevr then its a bummer ...like make it like chat mangni pat biya karvake pack up karvao aur bhagao scene lol🤣

No I have no idea if Dadu or Anish are back.😆 I was just giving an alternative suggestion for how Dadu can be forced to reckoned with Shravan's worth.😆

We will have to see what the angle is with this third angle. Suman is clearly not interested in shaadi biya at this point.🤣

Originally posted by: malikakas

No I have no idea if Dadu or Anish are back.😆 I was just giving an alternative suggestion for how Dadu can be forced to reckoned with Shravan's worth.😆

We will have to see what the angle is with this third angle. Suman is clearly not interested in shaadi biya at this point.🤣

Originally posted by: Meena_J

lol army docs waise shouldnt be married anyways right esp when they are serving or what?

I think that's mainly a rule during MBBS. I think they can marry while serving.

https://www.afmc.nic.in/Courses/MBBScourse.html

Originally posted by: malikakas

I think that's mainly a rule during MBBS. I think they can marry while serving.

https://www.afmc.nic.in/Courses/MBBScourse.html

Originally posted by: malikakas

Also from a story perspective its just as important for Suman to succeed to show that falling in love wasn't something that pulled her away from her goals. Her entire identity has always been related around her army goals. Yet she still chose Shravan when he was a civilian. She already disappointed Dadu by falling for Shravan. She already lost the person who would have been most proud of her because of her relationship with Shravan. So I don't see why she should be seen as less successful in order to satisfy the go battle between Shravan and Dadu. I think Shravan just making it in the army is enough. But if they really want they could use Anish for that purpose.

@bold: maybe in another field it wouldn't be an issue. But the army is especially known as a boy's club (although that occurs in a lot of other professional domains as well). Recently the government's argument against permanent commissions for women was that men would have a hard time talking orders from a woman. Unfortunately Indian society is patriarchal. So it just wouldn't be a great message.

Honestly my point regarding that was solely to piss off Dadu because he annoyed the F out of me but other than that, I think it's actually valid for them to be shown as equals for a number of reason and it's actually a positive outlook for the audience as well. Women in the army are at a great disadvantage from the start and the number of females who are promoted beyond a certain point is also rare because they don't have the same opportunity for promotion.

I realize i just gave a bad outlook in my post. Should have been more clear what i meant.

Originally posted by: malikakas

No because that a would make it seem like Suman is not that exceptional which really shouldn't be the point either. If they want to show dedication is important then they have to value Suman as well who worked hard her whole life to succeed while Shravan goofed off in his school years. Dadu was a jerk but frankly Shravan deserved a lot of flak he got for stealing that army jacket in the first scene. For me they are in different fields which I appreciate. It should not be made to be made into a competition between them even just for Dadu.

Agreed. I'm not unhappy with the story line. It's one of the things i appriciate about shows on Sony. Most of them generally give a positive message and for them to have Shravan as Suman's equal is a good outlook, especially because of how difficult it is for women to make it in the army and get the respect they deserve. I didn't really think about about the depth of my words when i was writing them. Realistically, the major line would have presented alot of problems including the message it would be giving. Glad they stuck to a more realistic scenario which is actually what makes this situation different from other melodramatic shows on ITV

The Paramilitary scenario however would have been cooler. Alas, it was probably more expensive and considering the Covid situation, likely not possible.

Originally posted by: misfit007

Am i the only one kind of bummed about Shravan not being Major, as unrealistic as it may have been. I would rather it be showed as an exception just for the sheer sake of seeing Brig. Tiwari's expression.

His whole civillian over army debate is practically redundent now because Shravan is in the army too. I would have loved seeing that the same civilian / civilian's son now holds a rank above his army background grand daughter and at such a young age because he's that exceptional when he puts his mind too it.

They could have credited the promotion to his sankipan i.e his risk taking ability and show that it actually stems for his disregard for his life and the want to prove himself.

Also would like to see the complexity of Shravan bitter towards Suman but also invariably all of his actions being motivated by her in some way. Like he wanted to prove that he wasn't a mistake and it was her mistake for doubting him.

Btw, i totally understand Suman's point of view and like the change in her. It isn't unexpected that she reacted the way she did given the situation, her upbringing, personality and that last email from Vijay. But somewhere i do want to see her feel proud of Shravan's accomplishments despite of their feelings towards each other.

bold:THIS. This is what I had hoped it would mean. That he is a maverick. Stands out from the rest by proving himself with his daring nature and risk taking abilities. But instead he's sanki because he organises and competes in petty, small scale, not to mention illegal challenges. Like crossing into enemy territory and almost violating the ceasefire is highly irresponsible. And his dad hasn't even been vindicated yet. I'm sure he must be doing his duties well with just as much bahaduri (like when he saves Veer without a second's consideration), but displaying such indisciplined behaviour with such a flippant attitude on the border is jeopardising a whole country.

Baaki, may be there will be some major operation in the future, if COVID allows it, and his prowess leads the team to victory and paves the way for his promotion.

italic:Hmm..maybe..maybe not. I mean I get being influenced or inspired by someone in life to go for something and prove yourself but I don't want to see him make his life goals revolve around Suman. Like at every point I don't want him to think ki kyunki Suman ko aisa lagta hai, isiliye main ye karna chahta hun. Right now, he clearly doesn't seem to be interested in her reactions to how he has turned out.

underlined:If she can be her old self with a select few like Damru, and I'm thinking Kanchan and Veer, then she hasn't changed exactly. She's shown her propensity to break rules and to be unpredictable pre leap as well. Now, she's shown to be openly rebellious (without Shravan and in other aspects of her life), devised her own unconventional, effective modes of operation to get the job done and wants to flout rules made by officious superiors, which include her boss and her aunt. She's decided she's not going to brook any nonsense from bossy nitpicks outside the line of duty. Have to see if she's gonna carry this attitude of hers into a military operation. She could be as daring as Shravan but not to the point of being recklessly brave. She still lives by her father's ideals and in his memory, wants to follow his teachings to the T, which means she will want to be correct where she should be. She ignored him once as it is and blames herself for going against him. Right now, her character is more intriguing and I'd love to see her applying her mantra in more situations to understand her better.

Originally posted by: misfit007

Honestly my point regarding that was solely to piss off Dadu because he annoyed the F out of me but other than that, I think it's actually valid for them to be shown as equals for a number of reason and it's actually a positive outlook for the audience as well. Women in the army are at a great disadvantage from the start and the number of females who are promoted beyond a certain point is also rare because they don't have the same opportunity for promotion.

I realize i just gave a bad outlook in my post. Should have been more clear what i meant.

Yeah no worries. I completely understood you. That's why I was suggested someone like Anish instead could have been used for that purpose to hit home Shravan's worth to Dadu. Anish was also a military brat and head boy. Dadu seemed to prefer him. But I guess we don't even know if Dadu is going to be around in this phase. But I am content with the fact that Shravan was picked by Vijay as best male student in their study group. That in of itself would have irked Dadu. 😆

Originally posted by: Su94

bold:THIS. This is what I had hoped it would mean. That he is a maverick. Stands out from the rest by proving himself with his daring nature and risk taking abilities. But instead he's sanki because he organises and competes in petty, small scale, not to mention illegal challenges. Like crossing into enemy territory and almost violating the ceasefire is highly irresponsible. And his dad hasn't even been vindicated yet. I'm sure he must be doing his duties well with just as much bahaduri (like when he saves Veer without a second's consideration), but displaying such indisciplined behaviour with such a flippant attitude on the border is jeopardising a whole country.

This I completely agree with. I don't know why they presented Shravan that way. It just seemed very irresponsible. It's fun for him to still have some playfulness but maybe something more like Hawkeye from MASH (if anyone has watched that show) would have been better.

underlined:If she can be her old self with a select few like Damru, and I'm thinking Kanchan and Veer, then she hasn't changed exactly. She's shown her propensity to break rules and to be unpredictable pre leap as well. Now, she's shown to be openly rebellious (without Shravan and in other aspects of her life), devised her own unconventional, effective modes of operation to get the job done and wants to flout rules made by officious superiors, which include her boss and her aunt. She's decided she's not going to brook any nonsense from bossy nitpicks outside the line of duty. Have to see if she's gonna carry this attitude of hers into a military operation. She could be as daring as Shravan but not to the point of being recklessly brave. She still lives by her father's ideals and in his memory, wants to follow his teachings to the T, which means she will want to be correct where she should be. She ignored him once as it is and blames herself for going against him. Right now, her character is more intriguing and I'd love to see her applying her mantra in more situations to understand her better.

Yeah for me as well. I am very intrigued by her character. Especially because we hardly ever see female characters like this. The writers have given her a very complex scenario to work through. She has the guilt of going against her father before his death. She can never again fix the most important relationship in her life and on top of losing everyone else it has led her to be cynical of relationships.