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Originally posted by: sammy17

Guys about the lock on the wiki page. Locks like that, that indicate editing protection, can easily be set up by any random person by requesting a wikipedia admin, especially if there have been too many edits done in a short period of time or any other signs of too much vadalism in short periods of time. So the lock on it is nothing official by the production house or anyone from the team. It also means that then any editing on the page can only be done by a wiki admin through whom apparently you have to send a request to have information edited. I read this in the past about wikipedia.

Although guys when I read on that wiki page that aakesh reincarnation is jai and veer is hriday (despite jai being shown all goody goody like hriday was, and veer being shown bad like aakesh) I was shocked because I thought, what if they really are misleading us by making us think the goody-goody jai is the goody-goody hriday of past life, and that the bad-boy veer is the bad aakesh of past life, but instead they will shock us by showing that we were mistaken about their identities and just assumed things on the basis of their current life personalities matching to their previous life. I mean in every season ekta has used this misleading trick on audience, so why would she not do it this season?

Remember those snake charmers/ pandits words about how the story will be completely different this time and indicated the same story will play out in a new way etc. Somewhere why do I fear ekta again is misleading us? Even the articles said that sharad character will be negative then turn positive. So if we look at it from the theory of veer being hriday, that would mean the article meant that veer is first shown evil then he remembers he was the good hriday in past life and turns good. Oh god I so so soooooo hope I'm wrong about this.

Because in the past life they didn't shown any real connection between hriday and nageshwari that made us feel he is her true love, and instead the connection was shown between nageshwari and aakesh. So why would they then choose to show that in this life she hates hriday initially if he is shown as evil veer, as then that would mean that she will later fall in love with hriday as the story goes on. Ok my head is spinning.

Much better story would be if she hates aakesh as veer even in this life time but eventually falls in love with him and aakesh redeems himself in the second life and proves himself as nageshwari aka bani's true soulmate over hriday aka jai. Because like someone said, in the past life the ritual that would bind hriday and nageshwari forever as a naag-naagin jodi was not carried out to completion due to aakesh. That, alongside the lack of a connection shown between them hints that hriday is not nageshwari's true soulmate at all.

I don’t think Hriday was ever her soul mate, when all the naags and naagins were fighting against the cheels to defend the Naag Mandir, he was loafing around somewhere else. Why??? So no way in hell can Veer be Hriday, I hope he is Aakesh only. I would rather watch the Cheel redeem himself and prove to be a much better and worthy partner of the Naagin. So if anyone has to play Cheel then it has to be either Sharad or someone else that is better than Mohit Sehgal, he can continue playing that stupid naag.

Originally posted by: libran90

The problem isn't with the role reversal. Problem is, after the nil screen presence given to Hriday and his zero chemistry with Naageshwari, he is incarnated as Veer???😲 And the limelight given to Aakesh and his obsession is incarnated as Jay??🤔 Why and how?

Seriously no matter what way I think of it, veer being hriday, and jai being aakesh makes little to no sense to me. Mostly because its looking obvious that bani will end up with veer going by my experience of ekta shows and serials in general, and if veer is hriday in this life, then it makes no sense then why they showed zero connection and true soul-mate vibes for nageshwari and hriday in past life. And the dhamakedaar aakesh being reborn as the phuski bomb jai is like the biggest joke to me, because would ekta really have an excellent performer like dheeraj play a complex character like aakesh, only to then have the aakesh character performed by a much weaker actor like mohit s, because if jai is aakesh, then how will mohit play aakesh because jai will eveually in that case then start showing aakesh's behaviour eventually. Mohit cannot play aakesh.... he can play jai, but not aakesh, and I'm sure that ekta must realise this that mohit would not be able to carry off the character of aakesh that she established with an amazing actor like dheeraj.

If ekta tries to show us that veer is hriday, and bani will first hate hriday then fall in love with him after realising he is her hriday, then the obviously intentional lack of connection shown between hriday and nageshwari in past life by writers would make zero sense if in the end through reincarnation they were going to have hriday-nageshwari as end game.

The past life indicated that evil/ grey aakesh is actually her true love and she will fall in love with her enemy aakesh. So for me it makes more sense that veer is aakesh and like aakesh, veer too falls madly in love with bani and tries to possess her like aakesh does, but in this life nageshwari too falls in love with her enemy aakesh against her own expectations.

Originally posted by: sammy17

Seriously no matter what way I think of it, veer being hriday, and jai being aakesh makes little to no sense to me. Mostly because its looking obvious that bani will end up with veer going by my experience of ekta shows and serials in general, and if veer is hriday in this life, then it makes no sense then why they showed zero connection and true soul-mate vibes for nageshwari and hriday in past life. And the dhamakedaar aakesh being reborn as the phuski bomb jai is like the biggest joke to me, because would ekta really have an excellent performer like dheeraj play a complex character like aakesh, only to then have the aakesh character performed by a much weaker actor like mohit s, because if jai is aakesh, then how will mohit play aakesh because jai will eveually in that case then start showing aakesh's behaviour eventually. Mohit cannot play aakesh.... he can play jai, but not aakesh, and I'm sure that ekta must realise this that mohit would not be able to carry off the character of aakesh that she established with an amazing actor like dheeraj.

If ekta tries to show us that veer is hriday, and bani will first hate hriday then fall in love with him after realising he is her hriday, then the obviously intentional lack of connection shown between hriday and nageshwari in past life by writers would make zero sense if in the end through reincarnation they were going to have hriday-nageshwari as end game.

The past life indicated that evil/ grey aakesh is actually her true love and she will fall in love with her enemy aakesh. So for me it makes more sense that veer is aakesh and like aakesh, veer too falls madly in love with bani and tries to possess her like aakesh does, but in this life nageshwari too falls in love with her enemy aakesh against her own expectations.

In the Naagin series, till now all the guys or Male leads have been positive or very sanskaari other than Rocky. Be it Rithik, Mahir or Dev. Plus I think till now all the MLs and FLs Met each other from the first or second episode itself. I remember Rithik being drawn to Shivanya, then Rocky following Shivangi like a creep, then Bela and Mahir already knew each other through the guy who is playing Haiwaan on ZeeTv, while Dev and Brinda were childhood friends and met each other during the second episode. So Jay and Bani meeting each other first would make one believe that they are only the leads given how Veer is yet to meet Bani unless ekta and mukta are going to use their regular serial formula from other shows like how she suddenly moved away from white to black costume in the case of Brinda initially.

Originally posted by: sammy17

Seriously no matter what way I think of it, veer being hriday, and jai being aakesh makes little to no sense to me. Mostly because its looking obvious that bani will end up with veer going by my experience of ekta shows and serials in general, and if veer is hriday in this life, then it makes no sense then why they showed zero connection and true soul-mate vibes for nageshwari and hriday in past life. And the dhamakedaar aakesh being reborn as the phuski bomb jai is like the biggest joke to me, because would ekta really have an excellent performer like dheeraj play a complex character like aakesh, only to then have the aakesh character performed by a much weaker actor like mohit s, because if jai is aakesh, then how will mohit play aakesh because jai will eveually in that case then start showing aakesh's behaviour eventually. Mohit cannot play aakesh.... he can play jai, but not aakesh, and I'm sure that ekta must realise this that mohit would not be able to carry off the character of aakesh that she established with an amazing actor like dheeraj.

Going by the experience of EK's toxic shows, yes Bani will be paired opposite Veer. She shows all the junoon wala ishq for bad boys, jaise good boys me junoon ki kami hai. Sabko same kyun nahi rakhte yaar. Har koi na pura black aur na pura white hota hai. Anyway, without going off-topic. This reincarnation was meant to be a chance not just for Naageshwari to find her Naag and lover, but also for Aakesh I believe. And anyway, Naageshwari was chosen to be Sarvashresth Adi Naagin for a reason, not just for some random Naag to be chosen to be her mate, I suppose. And what I also did not understand, why the hell was she cursed? She killed the people who tried to desecrate the temple, then what is the need for a curse? And why does Adi Naagin think that only the Nag be her mate, mate to koi bhi ho sakta hai. Aakesh wanted Adi Naagin, not naagmani. I can understand this story to be about who gets their love, but where does the revenge angle play out?

If ekta tries to show us that veer is hriday, and bani will first hate hriday then fall in love with him after realising he is her hriday, then the obviously intentional lack of connection shown between hriday and nageshwari in past life by writers would make zero sense if in the end through reincarnation they were going to have hriday-nageshwari as end game.

Exactly, there is something wrong with Hriday. Something which hasn't been shown, because we saw the story from Naageshwari's perspective. Her logic about Aakesh's love being wrong is also bogus because love in any form cannot be wrong.

The past life indicated that evil/ grey aakesh is actually her true love and she will fall in love with her enemy aakesh. So for me it makes more sense that veer is aakesh and like aakesh, veer too falls madly in love with bani and tries to possess her like aakesh does, but in this life nageshwari too falls in love with her enemy aakesh against her own expectations.

And not just that, Veer has the chance to amend the mistakes he made as Aakesh. There is a reason why Aakesh was meant to be consumed by light, there is a reason why Naageshwari was chosen to be Adi Naagin and the light to Aakesh. There are certain things which Aakesh and Naageshwari are meant to rectify as Bani and Veer. Hriday is not meant to be the joda for Naageshwari. But I do feel his role has some purpose. I cannot really say what that would be.

Originally posted by: Autumn09

I think it would be like Sudha Chandran's character in Naagin 1. She was introduced as a loving, caring mother in the beginning fearing for her son's safety and her evil designs were revealed later.

They can't make Sharad-Surabhi pairing work here without showing Hriday as a negative character (Indian dramas have no place for good second leads like Kdramas) and if Hriday is shown as dubious, it'll repeat Naagin 3 storyline of Bela and Vikrant. So I feel if Sharad is Hriday and he's recognised both Naageshwari and Aakesh.

But you're right they've given Hriday too less screen space preincarnation. So not sure how it'll work.

It's not even about the lack of hriday screen time pre-incarnation. Notice how there was little establishment of a proper romantic connection between hriday and nageshwari despite them showing nageshwari considering hriday her true love, yet they focused on establishing a strong connection of unrequited love vs hate with aakesh and nageshwari, focusing on them two as if they only are the true couple. So how then would it make sense if by making the seemingly evil veer who bani will obviously hate just like she did with aakesh, into the rebirth of hriday?

The hints from pre-incarnation that indicate that nageshwari is under the misconception that hriday is her true love and hints that nageshwari will fall in love with her enemy aakesh is what makes the idea of the aakesh-behaving veer turning out to be hriday make no sense.

If they plan on revealing veer to be hriday, then they wouldn't have shown it in pre-incarnation as if hriday isn't her real true love and they would not have made him seem so unimportant compared to aakesh.

Originally posted by: Autumn09

Agree with your every point. If they had allowed a little time to show love between Naageshwari and Hriday then we would have felt bad for their love to be incomplete. But the only dialogue Hriday had for Naageshwari was you're looking gorgeous in human form. Like seriously? Basically the whole folklore is about undying love between Naag and Naagin and if one of them is killed, the other avenges. But Mohit Malhotra to insaani roop mein hi itna seedha saada and doormat personality ka lagta, intense naag vali to feeling hi nahi thi. That's why I said CVs completely botched up Hriday's character. Love triangle ka mazaa tabhi hai jab dono characters itne strong ho ki audience decide na kar paye who to ship with whom but Hriday se better to VFX vale naag hote hain.

Why do I feel they intentionally made hriday and his lover side seem so weak and lacking in passion compared to the seemingly villainous aakesh? It's like they were showing hriday's love for nageshwari is not as strong as aakesh's.

Originally posted by: made-in-charms

exactly lol. idk how the wiki page got locked but if it's official the person should've been aware of Sharad's name atleast. It's def not official.

Look at this wiki page. This is the page through which any random person can ask for page protection, i.e., the page lock, and give a valid reason for why it needs protecting and what level of protection they want for it. It's decided by wiki admins if the protection request is justified, and usually they will inspect the editing history to judge why it needs protection, such as too many edits in short space of time without any verification of authenticity of the information edited into the pages. For example, too many changes to a page in short space of time and there are conflicting edits being done by different editors where neither of the information provided by either editor is backed with citations to prove authenticity of information. This is one reason why page protection is usually requested and even given by admins after looking into the requests necessity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection

Originally posted by: TeAmo_Messi

Ekta and Sharad had good collaborations and he has always been the lead in her shows and in all his shows, so there is no doubt that he will be the prominent and actual lead opposite surbhi, but if he plays the naag then that means the naag was always the original lead and if he plays Akesh (which i want him to) then it is a masterstroke by the makers, they will finally make an interesting piece of story which includes the male lead as the main culprit in his pichla janam.

Precisely. If ekta has learned her lesson, that the way to justify making more naagin seasons and ensuring their success is by being creative with the story, then she will stick with this new concept that she seemingly is teasing of love story between the naagin and her natural enemy, the cheel, instead of a human like usual in other naagin seasons, or a naag who typically would be considered a naagin's mate.

If they visit india forums, then they will see how our views actually are insight into how the slowly fading naagin tv audience will be thinking who have become fatigued with the repetitiveness of the naagin series. She should not kill the amazing magic she has created with the first episode with aakesh and nageshwari.

Originally posted by: Rein123

I don’t think Hriday was ever her soul mate, when all the naags and naagins were fighting against the cheels to defend the Naag Mandir, he was loafing around somewhere else. Why??? So no way in hell can Veer be Hriday, I hope he is Aakesh only. I would rather watch the Cheel redeem himself and prove to be a much better and worthy partner of the Naagin. So if anyone has to play Cheel then it has to be either Sharad or someone else that is better than Mohit Sehgal, he can continue playing that stupid naag.

Just pray that ekta has learnt her lesson, and doesn't screw up the story this time. She's done good so far with this seemingly new concept of how she is setting up a complex love triangle.

Originally posted by: Rein123

In the Naagin series, till now all the guys or Male leads have been positive or very sanskaari other than Rocky. Be it Rithik, Mahir or Dev. Plus I think till now all the MLs and FLs Met each other from the first or second episode itself. I remember Rithik being drawn to Shivanya, then Rocky following Shivangi like a creep, then Bela and Mahir already knew each other through the guy who is playing Haiwaan on ZeeTv, while Dev and Brinda were childhood friends and met each other during the second episode. So Jay and Bani meeting each other first would make one believe that they are only the leads given how Veer is yet to meet Bani unless ekta and mukta are going to use their regular serial formula from other shows like how she suddenly moved away from white to black costume in the case of Brinda initially.

@Bold in blue- 🤣🤣🤣 Pata nahi kyun, the way you explained this part made me laugh so hard.