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Posted: 5 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Bulbbul_Pandey


they implied the husband was a paedophile.. i mean there's no reason for him to marry a little 5 year old .. they kept alluding throughout Bulbbul's childhood scenes that the creepy asshole husband assaulted her...

Yeah I dunno if I watched it wrong or interpreted it wrong, I just found it creepy as hell when Binodini asks Bulbbul to go to his room when she was a child, at night, and sort of fixing her dress to make her look good? I felt like it was implying that but it probably didn't. Dunno, it was very subtle so it's hard to say for sure
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Posted: 5 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Bulbbul_Pandey


they implied the husband was a paedophile.. i mean there's no reason for him to marry a little 5 year old .. they kept alluding throughout Bulbbul's childhood scenes that the creepy asshole husband assaulted her...

It was the norm, many men did.. esp those in higher echelons of society. I dont think there was any sexual relaton between Indraneel and Bulbul right after marriage, maybe it did happen after she turned certain age. A molested child of that age would be scared as hell, but she seemed normal in her interactions with everyone including Indraneel..also if that was the case the makers would have given some indication...the scene where Binodini tells Bulbul to go to her husband..is more telling on Binodini's character then the relationship between Indraneel and Bulbul..it shows how Binodini was jealous of a little kid, that this kid will grow up to be the badi bahu aka malkin and Indraneel's love was unsettling for her..I think she pressed Bulbul's saree in a proper way cos it was again a norm to look proper and neat when u meet your husband or any elder family member.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Ennuyi

It was the norm, many men did.. esp those in higher echelons of society. I dont think there was any sexual relaton between Indraneel and Bulbul right after marriage, maybe it did happen after she turned certain age. A molested child of that age would be scared as hell, but she seemed normal in her interactions with everyone including Indraneel..also if that was the case the makers would have given some indication...the scene where Binodini tells Bulbul to go to her husband..is more telling on Binodini's character then the relationship between Indraneel and Bulbul..it shows how Binodini was jealous of a little kid, that this kid will grow up to be the badi bahu aka malkin and Indraneel's love was unsettling for her..I think she pressed Bulbul's saree in a proper way cos it was again a norm to look proper and neat when u meet your husband or any elder family member.

Oooh that makes sense too. I guess we find it creepy because we see it from a modern point of view but it was normal then
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Posted: 5 years ago
#44

I had a feeling that Indraneel's marriage to bulbul was his second marriage, cos in that era even man married early..in their teens, or 20s but Indraneel was around 40 right when he married bulbul.. so its a little weird..

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Posted: 5 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Sailor-Moon

Yeah I dunno if I watched it wrong or interpreted it wrong, I just found it creepy as hell when Binodini asks Bulbbul to go to his room when she was a child, at night, and sort of fixing her dress to make her look good? I felt like it was implying that but it probably didn't. Dunno, it was very subtle so it's hard to say for sure


well my take is this:


If Bulbbul's family had lower standing to the husband's ( the sister in law said it was a great honour to be married to Thakurs and that she should shut up and not mention her rape), it wasn't a political alliance that she was married off to someone decades older.. why would a 30 plus man marry someone so young just for the heck of it if it wasn't an alliance made for some political/business merging of the families OR he wasn't a paedo ..


the wedding night scene made me feel very uneasy the way he came over to the bedroom..i thought it was then implied (to me) that it was the first encounter..and also the scene where the sister in law comes to get the made up child bride, she said she's fulfilling his needs as a grown up woman why would he ask for Bulbbul..


i think the reason they only alluded to the possibility of Bulbbul being abused as a child was because of the age of the actor and that maybe they didn't think they had the talent to handle it in a sensitive manner.. Or they wanted the rape scene later to have a bigger impact...


This movie was just okay for me, the story and performances were great but direction and writing could have been a lot better...

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Posted: 5 years ago
#46

Being married to a Thakur family was a huge deal in that era. Bulbul did not have parents she was raised by her pishima (aunt) the family thot getting the orphan married to a Thakur family was the best they could do for her.. again marrying someone 25-30 yrs or even older was not seen as an aberration. It was does not imply that all men that had child brides were paedos...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ennuyi

Being married to a Thakur family was a huge deal in that era. Bulbul did not have parents she was raised by her pishima (aunt) the family thot getting the orphan married to a Thakur family was the best they could do for her.. again marrying someone 25-30 yrs or even older was not seen as an aberration. It was does not imply that all men that had child brides were paedos...


okay i guess it might be a good match for the aunt to marry off to a better/bigger family..


but why would *he* marry a 5 year old then? please explain what were these adult men's rationale if they weren't hoping to sexually exploit the girls?


its not like they'll have a nice engaging conversations/companionship or that they needed a glorified maid.. the girls would also not be able to produce an heir.. i am just interested in the reason for this tradition..

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Posted: 5 years ago
#48

Yes he did love her but it‘s so forbidden to harbour romantic feelings for his ‘Bhabhi’. In that scene where he kept telling her to ‘stop saying his name’, that was his jealousy. But could he act on it? No. It was actually very subtle, his side of it. It was so subconscious that he wouldn’t think to act on it ever.


I would’ve loved to see his perspective more because he was in the grey area. Whereas his brother was Dark, Sudip was the perfect guy, Satya was more complex I felt. He was more oppressed without realising and despite wanting to do the right thing, he also turned out to be like other men. That’s what made him interesting. He was a good guy but a passive aggressive patriarch.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: Bulbbul_Pandey


okay i guess it might be a good match for the aunt to marry off to a better/bigger family..


but why would *he* marry a 5 year old then? please explain what were these adult men's rationale if they weren't hoping to sexually exploit the girls?


its not like they'll have a nice engaging conversations/companionship or that they needed a glorified maid.. the girls would also not be able to produce an heir.. i am just interested in the reason for this tradition..

For that u will have to read up a lot of history I guess 😆 arrange marriages are still a norm but maybe 100 yrs from now it will be looked down as a terrible, unfathomable thing.. similarly child marriage looks unpaltable now but it was common in that era 1881. Do u think most men had engaging discussions with their wife even in similar age bracket.. barring a few. Women were rarely educated, talked down by their husbands cos they were suppose to be ignorant of worldly matters.. they were seen as child bearers and keeping the family together. Marriages were seen as a custom rather then of compatibility or companionship.. Bulbul was a child but in few yrs she would grow up to be a young child bearing women... also child marriages were prefered cos a child can be easily molded the way her husband or in laws wants her to..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Satya and Bulbbul were together from a very young age.. they played together, wrote books together, created stories together.. So much involvement with each other can lead to romantic feelings, especially when both didnt interact with anybody else their age that much.

Although, I would say Bulbbul was indeed in love and she realized it somewhere. Like someone mentioned how she went pale when Binodini mentioned about rishta and how she lit up when Satya said he did not intend to marry and would instead become a sage.

Satya on the other hand I feel was in love too but being a Thakur and realizing the boundary of their relationship of devar-bhabhi never pondered upon the romantic aspect of it. He was protective of her, but he felt he was doing so because she was his bhabhi not realizing that deep down he also had feelings for her. Bulbbul knew this, hence she kept asking him "Tum kyun itne chidd rahe ho" "seedhe kyun nahi bolte ki tum Sudeep se jalte ho". I felt he was in denial but Bulbbul realized that their relationship was much deeper than what Satya was ready to acknowledge.

At many places I felt, he might have deeper feelings for her..

He kept saying, Bhabhi uska naam mat lo.. why was he so affected? He could have directly punished Sudeep being a Thakur..

They were always lost in each other. When Indraneil calls both of them to mention about London, they are just giggling looking at each other unware of Thakur.

When she is standing alone at the lakeside haveli.. he comes there, observes her face carefully and then mentions about coloring the haveli the same color as her mayka's house and tries to cheer her up.

At the end, he mentions to Sudeep, "Tumhe dekhte hi goli marne ka mann kiya(IMO that was because of jealousy), magar aaj pata chala kyun(he pinned the reason on village murders, though this was not the reason why he felt so) and Sudeep too tells him "Shaq kisi aur baat ka hai, magar saza kisi aur baat ki dena chahte ho"

When Satya realizes that he might have killed Bulbbul, that scream and crying in the end.. that and Sudeep's dialogue "Humari toh dost thi, aapki toh sab kuch thi" I think that is when he realized what Bulbbul meant to him.. Otherwise why cry and leave everything for a woman who indulged in adultery according to him?

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