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Originally posted by: AreYaar

Oh you are being too kind, TB. Your creations were amazing and I still have so many of them saved. I still remember the one request sig you made me on the "Puraane khat mile hain" poetry.

@bold: I completely understand where you're coming from. It's been hard for me to articulate my thoughts too and I'm still trying to process this honestly. What's pouring out is a sense of profound sadness over the tragedy of it all. I never thought Sushant one day would end up becoming a tragic figure in my memory. But there it is regardless.

I actually probably didn't even follow him or the two of them as closely as the rest of you guys did....I was sort of this late entrant who gate crashed your AT cuz I suddenly got so charmed by these two paagals😆....never thought that would evolve into a journey spanning years of following their interviews, JDJ, and then even his movie journey. And now here we are....even more time has passed but things feel more surreal than ever.

You are absolutely right that the bollywood crowd, including the bollywood forum really doesn't have much insight into the Sushant from his PR years....which I would frankly call his defining years. He evolved both as an actor and then ofcourse PR gave him Ankita who was a major anchoring force in his life. It's ironic but the tribute thread on the front page of IF also only has people talking about remembering him from KDMH but I feel like I was part of the small group that mainly remembers him cuz of PR and JDJ.

This sad turn of events just makes one reflective about the very nature of disillusionment and how it manifests in different ways in different people.

Oh my gosh you still have that saved! Awww I remember making that one, I was so pleased with how it turned out so I'm happy it still exists. I temporarily forgot that at one time I had my own "gallery" and all. I actually deleted just about everything on my computer out of pure sadness a few years ago, and I have no idea of what happened to my image hosting accounts. Now sometimes I wish I hadn't done that... I think a lot of those BTS videos are gone forever, but many of them are engrained in my memory. The very early days before they were even unofficially together seem to be what I like to think back to the most... the slapping 'fatak' segment (all time favorite lol), the 'maska mar ke' pav bhaji competition, roasting moomphali, their first ZRA after party, "chidiya - udd, tota - udd, gaai - udd, haaaain?"... I could go on forever. While I enjoyed basically every appearance together until it all ended, I had such low expectations at the beginning that everything they did was supremely entertaining. At one point I very honestly thought they would never get together and I was fine with it as I hadn't been involved in anything like this before. They were just two goofballs who fell a$$ backwards into fame and friendship and I loved every minute of it.

It has been interesting to see the romanticization of his career. In hindsight it is certainly a beautiful story and each step up in his career seemed well thought out... And then I think back to Sushant of 2009 and this dude was NOT a man with a plan, but he was so enterprising and charming that he made it work. I loved how he was excited for the potential his future held but also found contentment in the simpler things in life. This part of him faded away as time went on and I feel like he lost his sense of perspective with how far he had come and how much further he could go. Back in the day his struggle story was so detailed and started with chasing girls and trying to perform in plays in college before dropping out, followed by Shiamak, then acting classes, then his first break with Kis Des, and then PR being his big defining success with ZNKD and JDJ thrown in for good measure. Now his struggle story starts directly at quitting PR and it loses so much of the perspective of how darn hard it was just to make it that far! Same thing with his personal life. This is just one of the things that is making me feel so sad about his life and how it's being remembered. There was so much more to him and he overcame way more than people gave him credit for, and maybe somewhere along the way he stopped giving himself credit for it too.

Originally posted by: toothbrush13

Oh my gosh you still have that saved! Awww I remember making that one, I was so pleased with how it turned out so I'm happy it still exists. I temporarily forgot that at one time I had my own "gallery" and all. I actually deleted just about everything on my computer out of pure sadness a few years ago, and I have no idea of what happened to my image hosting accounts. Now sometimes I wish I hadn't done that... I think a lot of those BTS videos are gone forever, but many of them are engrained in my memory. The very early days before they were even unofficially together seem to be what I like to think back to the most... the slapping 'fatak' segment (all time favorite lol), the 'maska mar ke' pav bhaji competition, roasting moomphali, their first ZRA after party, "chidiya - udd, tota - udd, gaai - udd, haaaain?"... I could go on forever. While I enjoyed basically every appearance together until it all ended, I had such low expectations at the beginning that everything they did was supremely entertaining. At one point I very honestly thought they would never get together and I was fine with it as I hadn't been involved in anything like this before. They were just two goofballs who fell a$$ backwards into fame and friendship and I loved every minute of it.

It has been interesting to see the romanticization of his career. In hindsight it is certainly a beautiful story and each step up in his career seemed well thought out... And then I think back to Sushant of 2009 and this dude was NOT a man with a plan, but he was so enterprising and charming that he made it work. I loved how he was excited for the potential his future held but also found contentment in the simpler things in life. This part of him faded away as time went on and I feel like he lost his sense of perspective with how far he had come and how much further he could go. Back in the day his struggle story was so detailed and started with chasing girls and trying to perform in plays in college before dropping out, followed by Shiamak, then acting classes, then his first break with Kis Des, and then PR being his big defining success with ZNKD and JDJ thrown in for good measure. Now his struggle story starts directly at quitting PR and it loses so much of the perspective of how darn hard it was just to make it that far! Same thing with his personal life. This is just one of the things that is making me feel so sad about his life and how it's being remembered. There was so much more to him and he overcame way more than people gave him credit for, and maybe somewhere along the way he stopped giving himself credit for it too.

Oh some of these segments are still available on YT....here you go😆

The Fatak slap segment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkr7yl2_mSw

The pav bhaaji segment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7yIjXb8j2Q

LOL I wasn't there for the early days before they got more obvious about their relationship but I can imagine how it must have been for you all trying to figure them out with their madcap goofing around and indirect flirting.

That's a very apt way to put it....the romanticization of his career. Indeed that is what it was in many ways. Even now if you browse through the main IF thread, most people don't know much about him beyond the movies he did....which is again an interesting testament to the reach and power of films despite the fact that PR was a huge hit and his fame as Manav was also so far reaching. And you're right....the struggle story definitely evolved over time accordingly as his movie fame grew....as if there was a pressure to shed the story of the previous struggle of even making it to the big league in TV. Ironically, that was Sushant at his most unvarnished in some ways....allowed to be himself and still loved/pampered unconditionally....so he seemed to blossom under that. It's also ironic that had TV been the sum of his journey, PR would have been the crowning jewel in it most likely.....but now that chapter has become a footnote in many ways. Also worth noting that when he was peaking with PR, the trend of public relations managed personalities was not as prevalent as it ended up becoming about 5 years from that point.....so perhaps he was one of the last few that escaped that madness and got to be himself along with Ankita as his partner in crime.

He was always a restless creative soul as far as I could tell and with each new achievement - whether wittingly or unwittingly, his expectations and ambitions expanded considerably. But the kind of person he was, he needed an emotional support system to anchor him in this mad race he was running....but he lost that when he lost Ankita I think.

One can just see the notable difference....yes, a person evolves with age and time but even with that factor included, he's just a lighter, noticeably happier person with Ankita. I think initially when his movie career took off, there was a headiness about it to him that blinded him to some pitfalls....it was only later when I think some of the pitfalls manifested, he stumbled and there was no one to emotionally anchor him like before.....so one can see a subsequent increase in defensiveness and a chip on the shoulder kind of demeanor in him in the last few years.

Sometimes in their loneliness, people can lash out and harm the very people who wanted to protect them from the world....and they end up leaving lasting scars.

Originally posted by: toothbrush13

Oh girl those were the best days! I remember I was in high school and had finally gotten a data plan on my phone and would sit in the back of class trying to sneak onto here to look at gifs of the episodes. During that proposal episode my heart was floating in the sky.

It feels so wild that back then some of my biggest concerns were the saazishes of the JDJ editors and vote manipulation... never thought I would be sitting here mourning like this just 10 years later.

They were so full of hope and potential... the possibilities felt limitless back then!

Seriously! In retrospect that seems like such a good time now! The good simple fan life! (Although I cringe now thinking of pages and pages of those relentless debates, lol! 10 years back I had such poor self-control!)

JDJ times were the best. They literally fulfilled all our fan-fantasies, haha!

Felt like making some gifs on this Luka Chhupi JDJ performance:

Originally posted by: sensodynee

Hi Minks, thanks for posting! It feels nice to have people who have been through same like us.

I'm sorry, was your username same when we were active in PVR forum?

Probably it was Scarletthara or something.. its been ages, so I am not even sure. Plus I wasn't the most active here, and specially stopped coming here when I moved back to India, started working .. blah blah, too many things got me busy.

But I do remember reading the long analysis chains for PR and some really lovely fan-fics here. That's what I remember the most for IF.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Oh some of these segments are still available on YT....here you go😆

The Fatak slap segment

The pav bhaaji segment

LOL I wasn't there for the early days before they got more obvious about their relationship but I can imagine how it must have been for you all trying to figure them out with their madcap goofing around and indirect flirting.

That's a very apt way to put it....the romanticization of his career. Indeed that is what it was in many ways. Even now if you browse through the main IF thread, most people don't know much about him beyond the movies he did....which is again an interesting testament to the reach and power of films despite the fact that PR was a huge hit and his fame as Manav was also so far reaching. And you're right....the struggle story definitely evolved over time accordingly as his movie fame grew....as if there was a pressure to shed the story of the previous struggle of even making it to the big league in TV. Ironically, that was Sushant at his most unvarnished in some ways....allowed to be himself and still loved/pampered unconditionally....so he seemed to blossom under that. It's also ironic that had TV been the sum of his journey, PR would have been the crowning jewel in it most likely.....but now that chapter has become a footnote in many ways. Also worth noting that when he was peaking with PR, the trend of public relations managed personalities was not as prevalent as it ended up becoming about 5 years from that point.....so perhaps he was one of the last few that escaped that madness and got to be himself along with Ankita as his partner in crime.

He was always a restless creative soul as far as I could tell and with each new achievement - whether wittingly or unwittingly, his expectations and ambitions expanded considerably. But the kind of person he was, he needed an emotional support system to anchor him in this mad race he was running....but he lost that when he lost Ankita I think.

One can just see the notable difference....yes, a person evolves with age and time but even with that factor included, he's just a lighter, noticeably happier person with Ankita. I think initially when his movie career took off, there was a headiness about it to him that blinded him to some pitfalls....it was only later when I think some of the pitfalls manifested, he stumbled and there was no one to emotionally anchor him like before.....so one can see a subsequent increase in defensiveness and a chip on the shoulder kind of demeanor in him in the last few years.

Sometimes in their loneliness, people can lash out and harm the very people who wanted to protect them from the world....and they end up leaving lasting scars.

Thank you for posting those videos! 🤗 I probably won't be able to watch them for a while but knowing they're there makes me happy.

@ all the bold: Dude!!!! Yes!!!! It was probably unintentional but you have made me feel so validated. I didn't even know I was looking for that kind of validation until I felt it while reading your post. I've never spoken to anyone about this topic out loud and all these years later I was starting to feel slightly worried that I was living in some alternate reality headcanon with these thoughts. This is exactly how I feel. Like word for word. He was just different when she was around. It's difficult to find someone who cares about you that much and in just the right ways, and even moreso with his chosen industry. And you don't realize how much you've been feeding off of that baseline of support until it isn't there anymore. One example that always showed it for me was that his movie posters weren't just posters, they were movie posters!!!! and taken to work and showed off and framed and put on walls. It's such a little thing but there are not a lot of people who are going to be that happy for you or that proud of you. So I think another part of what made me feel so sad is that he pushed all of this away and never seemed to find the same kind of emotional support again. Further adding to that feeling that he drifted away and never got pulled back in.

I really like your point about the absence of public relations back then. At least through the first few years of PR I never felt that they were being disingenuous, they just were who they were.They said and did such odd things sometimes, and that included showing up to some events looking absolutely terrible, but that was also part of the untainted charm. In today's world, the social media tamasha over his death is horrifying. I am so thankful I have this space to write about how I feel without anyone co-opting to spread their own agenda. 95% of what I have come across is straight up lies or trivializing death.

Agree about him losing perspective and lack of an emotional anchor..

Remember how he used to say "I don't care if I don't get films , I will save money and make my own films"? (something along those lines.. Something about setting up a stall in filmcity) .

Sure, at that time I thought "feku !" and mentally rolled my eyes, but I believed that while he obviously will care about achieving whatever traditionally constitutes as success, he would as easily be able to find alternate paths if the situation necessitates it.. and more importantly - not give a damn about fitting in or landing work with a particular kind of crowd.

I wonder what changed and when and why (and he started changing much before the breakup). I mean he was always restless and ambitious , but somehow, both contentment and ambition seemed to coexist within him even after his first couple of years in bwood

Originally posted by: toothbrush13

Thank you for posting those videos! 🤗 I probably won't be able to watch them for a while but knowing they're there makes me happy.

@ all the bold: I am so thankful I have this space to write about how I feel without anyone co-opting to spread their own agenda. 95% of what I have come across is straight up lies or trivializing death.

Same here.. I mean, I don't want to trivialize depression and mental health , but I also know I can say things here and talk about all this with you guys because you would know that's not what I am trying to do..

I remember his toothy smiles, their banter between shots captured in the SBS clips and later with JDJ... they looked like the perfect couple to me, and when they broke up and the ugly stories with the blame game started, it really broke my heart. Seems far-fetched when I think about it now, as to how invested I was in a celebrity couple, where we didn't know the reality behind the scenes, but still I had this undying faith in them.

Guess he achieved what he had been striving for, but at great cost. He always used to say that I will one day be a movie star, with movies with all top production houses, and I would look at his interviews with a fond smile thinking, that yeah, he could def act better than most actors on screen in a Bolly movie.....

From those days, to now, it seems he finally got disillusioned and fedup with the politics in the industry, got too swept away in the rat race and lost his focus, sadly.

Hi Everyone !!!!

Remeber me.