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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: sonnet11

You'll hardly find anything but you can try. Afghanistan has been ruled by the extremists and religious fanatics for the most part of the medieval history. The brutality is not new. It has been really brutal for the country.

We have been ruled by those fanatics too, yet we somehow retained our identity. Afghanistan do acknowledge the past before Islam like they do accept princess Rukhsana(Roxxane the chief wife of Alexander) n some important people of history

Pakistan I feel faces the identity crisis of worst kind. Their heroes are people who destroyed their cities and the great men of their land find relatively no mention in their books

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

We have been ruled by those fanatics too, yet we somehow retained our identity. Afghanistan do acknowledge the past before Islam like they do accept princess Rukhsana(Roxxane the chief wife of Alexander) n some important people of history

Pakistan I feel faces the identity crisis of worst kind. Their heroes are people who destroyed their cities and the great men of their land find relatively no mention in their books


Yeah but the problem is Islamic countries consider India a hindu rashtra and a threat. But I will still try. At least it is established that Gandhar is present day Afghanistan. I am interested to know whether they also have Gandhari and Shakuni in their stories or history.

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Posted: 5 years ago

I dont know real details about the MB. Whatever i learned is from tv. Now when i saw so many version of the MB and read posts here i got to know TV did edit real epic and made tv show. Now i don't even know which version is actual right or MB actually even existed?

I mean if they did than pandavs and karna were the son of gods. Gandhari did gave birth to 100 sons is that even possible in real world? 🤔 karna had divya kawach. They all had divya weapons, if it is possible than we have to agree Gods did exist or this all actually happen but every time it got edited they added new imaginary point to make story even more entraining like how karna and Pandav's are god's sons, karna was unsung hero who can't be killed without cheating so added divya kawach and made Indra to trade it ( first made him denote which make him even more mahan. but at the end give him another divya weapon) if we dont believe in God than MB is more like fantasy story with god divine powers.

Did I make sense?😕

Edited by HeartBeat321 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

I believe that characters of Mahabharat had existed and it’s the narration of actual incidents . Some parts might have seen a fantasy element been added to make the narration attractive .

I also believe kingdom Dwarika existed as archeological remains have been found off shore of Present day Gujarat. I also believe Krishn and Balram also were really existed .

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: HeartBeat321

I dont know real details about the MB. Whatever i learned is from tv. Now when i saw so many version of the MB and read posts here i got to know TV did edit real epic and made tv show. Now i don't even know which version is actual right or MB actually even existed?

I mean if they did than pandavs and karna were the son of gods. Gandhari did gave birth to 100 sons is that even possible in real world? 🤔 karna had divya kawach. They all had divya weapons, if it is possible than we have to agree Gods did exist or this all actually happen but every time it got edited they added new imaginary point to make story even more entraining like how karna and Pandav's are god's sons, karna was unsung hero who can't be killed without cheating so added divya kawach and made Indra to trade it ( first made him denote which make him even more mahan. but at the end give him another divya weapon) if we dont believe in God than MB is more like fantasy story with god divine powers.

Did I make sense?😕

Well it could very well be that people added stuffs as the time progressed in the original story. A the story becomes older, the divinity angle starts increasing. It's not only for our religion

In Abrahamic religion if you see, despite Christ being the son of God (as per Christianity) and Muhhamad being the last messenger of God for whom the whole universe was built in the first place, God didn't bother to come to earth and meet them, however He had all time to come down to the earth n meet Moses. To make divine announcements for Noah. Despite the Jews having crucified Jesus, God didn't intervene directly but for Abraham's sister/wife, He intervened.

Even if you see our texts, there is more divine intervention in Vedas than there is in Ramayana and in Mahabharata it's further less


Plus a major thing we often miss is in India there were a few major practices and discoveries which were not cascaded to normal people. Islamic Invaders have destroyed our libraries so we don't even know what knowledge the books there stored.

Niyog as a practice could have been some early form of artificial insemination as I had earlier mentioned or maybe it was a normal birth process, and kids were called children of God's only because the story was being narrated to their biological greatgrand father's


Gandhari's 100 children could simply have been some early form of tissue culture or else might be as someone mentioned in the forum that Gandhaari wasn't one but many. Gandhari refers to princess of Gandhar so maybe there were many Gandharis multiple princess would have been married to Dhritrashtra but later as the story transversed from one generation to other orally all of them slowly became one and then to justify 100 kids the story of long pregnancy and kid in pot was started


The divine weapons were mass destruction weapons as per the standards of that time


As the stories cascade through word of mouth there are always some additions and subtractions, Mahabharata too would have underwent it, and maybe some person bias would have crept in


I think the story is definitely true but not everything that we know is true, things might have been added upto it and some technologies which they couldn't cascade became miracles

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: HeartBeat321

I dont know real details about the MB. Whatever i learned is from tv. Now when i saw so many version of the MB and read posts here i got to know TV did edit real epic and made tv show. Now i don't even know which version is actual right or MB actually even existed?

I mean if they did than pandavs and karna were the son of gods. Gandhari did gave birth to 100 sons is that even possible in real world? 🤔 karna had divya kawach. They all had divya weapons, if it is possible than we have to agree Gods did exist or this all actually happen but every time it got edited they added new imaginary point to make story even more entraining like how karna and Pandav's are god's sons, karna was unsung hero who can't be killed without cheating so added divya kawach and made Indra to trade it ( first made him denote which make him even more mahan. but at the end give him another divya weapon) if we dont believe in God than MB is more like fantasy story with god divine powers.

Did I make sense?😕


You might want to go through the Science in Mahabharata thread and this one. Alot of it is possible, and we can come to assumptions through interpreting the text.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Talking about God, my idea is that we should seek God and not just believe anything. Experiencing God on your own, is what my Indian ethos has taught me. I love the idea of God in MB, how playful, chilled out and loving he is, how being the best amongst all men he retains his feminine aspects too, how he transcends the humanly dimension with ease, how he talks the freedom of creatures and doesn't interfere in their free-wills, how he becomes a spokesperson of Dharma. The best thing about him is he would not send you to hell just because you don't believe in him. 😆

There are many more ways to interpret MB and BG like the Advaitavada. Upanishads are love. There are many more Indian philosophies regarding the Ultimate Truth. And even if you don't believe anything, that is fine too and that's the beauty of Indian ethos that you seek and derive at your own understanding.

Edited by sonnet11 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Brishti dii that's a matter of belief I guess nobody can say for a fact that it existed or no, anyways before saying anything lemme add a disclaimer that I don't intend to hurt any sentiments or discredit or belittle anyone.


Lemme begin, actually as I'm becoming aware of contradictions in the epic for Eg like in Skanda Purana Karna is a reincarnation of Shani, the only one who's given the boon of not getting into rebirth cycles but in Shrimad bhagvata Purana he's a demon now since Vyasa is attributed to Skanda Purana and no God narrates it he's expected to carry that story but in MB Karna is made a demon in previous birth toosmiley17. Now there are various versions of MB Vyasa may not have authored them but the characters remain same why would anyone distort history to that extent smiley5 There's bheel bharata the less I speak about it is goodsmiley35 In Javanese version Draupadi is only Mrs Yudhi, that'll contradict many points in Vyasa's MB, Bheem drinks Dushy's blood like a coke and Draupadi wears his liver like an ornamentsmiley11 The best best kaju fangurling moment occurs to me in this version where it's Arjuna who goes to Karna to persuade him to join pandavassmiley9smiley36 The worst of it all is not even KD infamous angle but Shakuni kunti anglesmiley37not to mention here too there's too much contradictions in NE and SE.


I spent crazy amount of time to understand Buddhist jatakas, yeah I was that crazy and I'm not even 20😆


😆 Hadn't it been for my mom who literally pulled me out saying its enough and made me take science and study for AIPMT I would've been making this post from an asylum (well last part was an exaggeration but I was obsessed with MB very much but I would have been studying literature and not science , but now I'm not obsessed but I do discuss them sometimes when I think debate won't go in circles 😃)

Now one believing these texts or no is up-to us but they exist, one may think that maybe they liked Vyasa's MB and made their Fanfiction, but there's no proof to prove what happened and what not, considering even the characters in few scenes changes🤪. Therefore I'm inclined to believe Adishankara when he says that MB was Vyasa's imagination. He had a story and poem-ifyed it to pass on values to future generation. :) and that's the best thing to believe too IMO unless you want to make a career in literature fighting over someone who might have existed 5000 years ago is no brainer 😛 and having a sage that could pen such rich story in an unbiased form is an honor itself. But that's my view anyone can disagree ofc to each its own😃

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