Meenu ki Sachchai Vol. 2: The Reveal💣💥 - Page 3

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Kunal went to Abir and Mishti multiple times for this, he kept asking Abir what he should do as he can't see his mother being treated like a servant by people, Kunal is not wrong in giving Parul her rights, He is not taking away Meenu's rights, Parul will still do household work but people won't misbehave with her, no child can see his mother being ill treated, whatever Kunal did was right for me

When did Abir accept influencing Kunal?

Kunal said it was his decision in today's episode, give the man some agency, don't put everything on Abir and Mishti

Hi Nora!

This back and forth conversation has made me realise that I was probably not clear in expressing my POV on this whole situation in this post. I had had a discussion on this very thing in the last Meenu thread and it was wrong of me to assume that everyone who reads this thread would have gone through the 15-16 pages in that thread. That's my bad.

Let me know if it would be wrong of me to assume that you are seeing this back forth between us as MishBir vs KuKu because if that's so, then we need to reset. I don't see them on 2 ends. Their stories are interdependent and so are their characters. So, basically what I am trying to say here is that I am not blaming MishBir for what happens in Kunal/KuKu's life. I am blaming them for their involvement in a matter that does not affect them at all. I'll explain why I say that.

When someone comes to me for advice, it does not make me obligated to give them a piece of my mind. In this case scenario, Kunal didn't go seeking advice. He shared a dilemma with her and asked her if she felt similarly, she chose to tell him that their scenarios were very different. That was a simple scene and gave Kunal a broader perspective into the situation and that is the reason why I don't feel Mishti is to be blamed here.

Coming to Abir, I didn't have much issue with him until he went to Kunal before the event and told him that "Abhi bhi ek cheez hai jo accept karni rehti hai...". There was no need for him to do that. He brought the topic up and went on to tell him to do the right thing. As an elder sibling who knows the level of influence he has over his brother, he should not have done that. He should have let Kunal figure out this relationship on his own and not gotten into it at all. If anything, he should guided and supported his brother through the process of accepting his mother (if he ever decided to do that in his own time), rather than trying to force him to accept Parul as his mother.

Also, Abir hinted that he had a hand behind Kunal taking the step during the MishBir conversation right after Meenakshi left the venue.

Talking about Kunal, he did decide to give Parul that place in life after listening to points. It was definitely his decision. He chose the people he wanted to discuss the matter with. And I do believe he would have accepted Parul as his mother sooner or later but I do feel that Abir's constant insistence played a bigger role in him choosing to let Parul cut the ribbon. He would have let Meenu do it if it was not for that one conversation.

Having analysed Kunal's character these past few months, I feel that Kunal would have taken the time to think through the decision or it would have been very instinctive and in the moment rather than it being this big gesture.

Originally posted by: ruhi19

after watching episode i got to know few things...

meenu ko kunal se pyaar hain but not more than her EGO, self respect and as abir said to mishti bas meenu sab kuch uski according se honi chahiye... so yes meenu when black mailed abir about the same issue in same manner but kunal did what meenu wanted todo... but uski marzki ke khilaaf..

when meenu met kunal in temple she shown her love for him but when abir spoke to her it is not the love for kunal but its her self respect demeaned in public...

when meenu said i dont want this to come out... then why did u say this abir to break his relation with mishti... when mishti got to know she is quiet and didnt even said to abir as its sacrifice of parul-meenu but now meenu blaming mishti...

meenu want to say bad about mehul but abir couldnt take that much bad about his father so yes mehul still affects abir and i think a come back for mehul is needed or mishti should say everything to every one because she has lot more info of mehul than meenu...

meenu said i taken parul for insaniyaat but i never felt like that not because parul is servant but meenu manipulated parul in such a way that parul autometically takes blame of all meenu's wrong doings and meenu once take teach parul a lesson cried fakely infront of kunal and kunal gave left right to parul and meenu is happy about it and now when kunal respected parul meenu gone nuts...

abir asks meenu if me and kunal both are sons of this house then u and parul should be also same but meenu says i never asked her to do servant works but im sure the manipulation meenu done to make parul do this and i want to know when she didnt try to stop parul if she dont want it but her made sense to me that she is not meenakshi rajvansh... abir wanted parul's right, respect from all not meenu's social status... meenu can keep a distant relative or friend but she made her servant bali ka bakri in all kaand's...

meenu wants everything according to her and said i dont that man influence on my children but mishti protected ur children not u MEENU...

meenu even said still mishti's father influence is on mishti i mean mishti's father truth is not known to mishti but meenu herself made mishti known mishti's father's truth infront of everyone of mishnal GD... she brought naman , meenu framed naman in killing her so that abinal go nuts and cancels GD with mishti but kunal knows the hurt of break up didnt do it... and someone pls explain me... mishti apne jaan pe khel ke meenu ko bachaya on mishnal GD cant meenu or kunal see that she is not like her father and kunal should be thankful to mishti that he saved her mother even the trap is planed by her...

meenu ko BM-BP ki parvarish par shaq nahi hain but naman ke blood se hain then it goes with abinal too... khoon tho mehul,meenu and parul ka hain but parvarish tho meenu, parul and naanu ka... so if u go by blood abinal and mishti stands same... in both case father is fraud and murderer... bas mishti ka ek aur extra tag that her left her for second marriage...

but alas... im waiting for meenu to bring mishku trurth out...i want know what truths she will bring out and how... i mean in social media, tv or infront of families...

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Great discussion as always, @aqua!

@clarity - loved reading your analysis. You've captured the essence of each character (even someone as secondary as Jasmeet) very well. whole heartedly agree with what you've written.

Originally posted by: clarity

Thought I would directly reply to you here. Meenakshi is first and foremost a narcissist. Her love is always self-serving. Even yesterday, I feel she was more annoyed because she felt Parul took her limelight than feeling insecure about Kunal. As the episode progressed, I understood she does feel some sadness about it but then it's always about her, in the end. All of Meenakshi's other avatars like mother, Parul's friend etc are subordinate to Meenakshi the narcissist matriarch. She has routinely shown that she is a poor judge of character. Her obstinate ways have often landed the family she claims to care about in trouble. I don't see any redemption for her because she is the only character so far to never show any remorse or introspect on her actions.

Kunal- His main problem is his lack of EQ. One has to understand which approach works with which person. When he disregards Kuhu's feelings, he makes her more resentful. Kuhu has always felt that she is not heard when it comes to Mishti. As her husband, he should at least hear her out and then decide if she is being rational or not. It's usually 'my way or the highway' with him. When he hated Mishti, he wanted Kuhu to hate her too. Now that he likes Mishti, he wants Kuhu to like her too. People are not so mechanical. He needs to understand that. I remember a post talking about how he loves Kuhu Rajvansh and not Kuhu Maheshwari. I completely agree. I had said this before that he seems to love Kuhu the Rajvansh bahu, the fact that everyone in his family loves her, that she is accepted by them. Will he be able to love the not so savoury parts of her? We'll have to see.

Kuhu- Well, her character is gonna swing from one extreme to the other as and when the writers wish. Post-leap there was this maturity that had set in but now, she is out of control. Do I mind it? Not entirely because a lot of male characters go from being criminal to Raja Harishchandra, so I don't mind a grey female character. I think we're harsher on female characters than on male characters. Whatever she has done so far is wrong but I want to see how she makes up for it.

Abir- I really like him. I like that he is a good person with control over his temper. His only shortcoming right now are some of his solutions which are downright whimsical. Even in the past, he made a huge mistake by not informing Kuhu and her family about Kunal running away from their wedding. It would have saved Kuhu a world of pain. He tries to do what he thinks will make everyone happy but of course, his judgement gets compromised at times. While I really liked that Parul Maasi got her 'haq', I feel he has been pushing Kunal to accept her as his maa and that shouldn't be rushed, IMO. Also, Meenu is now like a ghayal sherni, ready to pounce.

I also feel that the Maheshwaris need to address Kuhu's insecurities instead of scolding her. Clearly, the scolding is not helping. They need to sit down with her and understand why she feels the way she does. Same with Jasmeet. Sure, she is spewing venom these days but there was a trigger to this: the way Nannu and Mishti's rishta ended. I remember she had changed her perspective towards Mishti till a few months back and then the Nannu incident happened. No mother would want their child to marry someone who is in love with their ex. This is not to justify her actions but rather to ask why the Maheshwaris don't address this. Shutting her down is a temporary fix, not a permanent one.

Originally posted by: nami2811

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Originally posted by: ruhi19

dont mind me saying but this is the classical kunal behaviour...if he goes to kuhu and asks what ever may be the answer but he reacts what he sees at that moment... for me kuhu is not controlling any damage... she couldnt stop reporters before press meet calling parul naukrani... and on press meet she couldnt control reporters asking questions to meenu...

first it was mishti both times and lead by kuhu... this mishku relation is like that... if one will start other will lead... they have to work with eo...im not saying kuhu never took first step and mishti followed this also happened but at final it is in their hands...

Kuhu is event manager but she is totally clueless about the revelation she is still shocked and moreover she still struggles like kunal to accept parul as a mother in law neither abir nor mishti tried to prepare her for that . After the revelation she has 2 mother in law and it is her duty to serve both mother in law as both are important for kunal also and she has to manage everything on the venue also like everything ribbon cutting , speeches happened properly.

On the other hand mishbir are already got the hint as kunal comes to them to discuss the matter so when the truth comes out they are genuinely happy for parul but when mishti told about maheshwari 's abir and naanu take the lead and when reporter ask the after the ribbon cutting mishti stopped them but after that she is in dreamland totally till the kuhu didn't lashes out the anger on her. Mishti donot even bothered to called bm and asking about varsha and shoury condition . On the other hand kuhu is totally shocked standing near the stage as supervise the ribbon cutting as an event manager but the moment meenu leave the venue she run behind her till the car and she is the first one who face meenu's anger and frustration over her. Answered varsha and jas about whole thing as a daughter informed kunal about meenu goes missing as a wife and when come back home naanu again take her to meenu. The light moment enjoyed by kunal abir mishti and parul are not ruined because kuhu take the responsibility of finding and bringing meenu back indirectly played the role of daughter in law for parul also by giving some carefree moment with kunal and abir . Kuhu plays so many role in a short span and all of them are very difficult moments that is the biggest reason abir donot get hyper on mishti's complained and told her to keep patience in the situation as she is too good in maturity and patience and assure her to change the photo frame because he is aware of the fact that how much tension his bro kuhu beared in a single day despite her immaturity and selfishness which is not noticed by kunal also. If u noticed after meenu returned home abir is the first person who go to her neither kunal nor kuhu. He take the lead as elder brother to give sometime for relaxation for both kuhu and kunal. He take the kuhu's breaking photo frame very casually as more than photo frame he is worried about kuhu's emotional state which is targeted by meenu . In this whole revelation drama mishti is the least bothered person as compare to others 3.

Originally posted by: joypallavi

Kuhu is event manager but she is totally clueless about the revelation she is still shocked and moreover she still struggles like kunal to accept parul as a mother in law neither abir nor mishti tried to prepare her for that . After the revelation she has 2 mother in law and it is her duty to serve both mother in law as both are important for kunal also and she has to manage everything on the venue also like everything ribbon cutting , speeches happened properly.

On the other hand mishbir are already got the hint as kunal comes to them to discuss the matter so when the truth comes out they are genuinely happy for parul but when mishti told about maheshwari 's abir and naanu take the lead and when reporter ask the after the ribbon cutting mishti stopped them but after that she is in dreamland totally till the kuhu didn't lashes out the anger on her. Mishti donot even bothered to called bm and asking about varsha and shoury condition . On the other hand kuhu is totally shocked standing near the stage as supervise the ribbon cutting as an event manager but the moment meenu leave the venue she run behind her till the car and she is the first one who face meenu's anger and frustration over her. Answered varsha and jas about whole thing as a daughter informed kunal about meenu goes missing as a wife and when come back home naanu again take her to meenu. The light moment enjoyed by kunal abir mishti and parul are not ruined because kuhu take the responsibility of finding and bringing meenu back indirectly played the role of daughter in law for parul also by giving some carefree moment with kunal and abir . Kuhu plays so many role in a short span and all of them are very difficult moments that is the biggest reason abir donot get hyper on mishti's complained and told her to keep patience in the situation as she is too good in maturity and patience and assure her to change the photo frame because he is aware of the fact that how much tension his bro kuhu beared in a single day despite her immaturity and selfishness which is not noticed by kunal also. If u noticed after meenu returned home abir is the first person who go to her neither kunal nor kuhu. He take the lead as elder brother to give sometime for relaxation for both kuhu and kunal. He take the kuhu's breaking photo frame very casually as more than photo frame he is worried about kuhu's emotional state which is targeted by meenu . In this whole revelation drama mishti is the least bothered person as compare to others 3.

I wanted to be mean & Say,should mish really care about meanu???

After everything?

She shouldn’t.

She better enjoy the lil moments with her fav people.

Also it was about kunal,his mom!why mishti will bother with explanation?abir had some idea bt She didn’t know about this Before anyway.

Bt i wont be mean like that & try to be logical.everyone knws kuhu- meanu bond better, so they were taking care of the other imp woman they have in house. & they let kuhu take care of meanu & they did their everyday sab kuch mishti ki wajah se!

Why parul is so imp,i will try explain in my next post.plz have a look if u want.

Okay.now i will be honest!

Stupid effing Editors.

Rhesha scene was added separately, so there were lack of scene.

& whatever family scene MishBir had, they chopped it.

U can check the bts.

Originally posted by: aquaHP

Hi Nora!

This back and forth conversation has made me realise that I was probably not clear in expressing my POV on this whole situation in this post. I had had a discussion on this very thing in the last Meenu thread and it was wrong of me to assume that everyone who reads this thread would have gone through the 15-16 pages in that thread. That's my bad.

Let me know if it would be wrong of me to assume that you are seeing this back forth between us as MishBir vs KuKu because if that's so, then we need to reset. I don't see them on 2 ends. Their stories are interdependent and so are their characters. So, basically what I am trying to say here is that I am not blaming MishBir for what happens in Kunal/KuKu's life. I am blaming them for their involvement in a matter that does not affect them at all. I'll explain why I say that.

When someone comes to me for advice, it does not make me obligated to give them a piece of my mind. In this case scenario, Kunal didn't go seeking advice. He shared a dilemma with her and asked her if she felt similarly, she chose to tell him that their scenarios were very different. That was a simple scene and gave Kunal a broader perspective into the situation and that is the reason why I don't feel Mishti is to be blamed here.

Coming to Abir, I didn't have much issue with him until he went to Kunal before the event and told him that "Abhi bhi ek cheez hai jo accept karni rehti hai...". There was no need for him to do that. He brought the topic up and went on to tell him to do the right thing. As an elder sibling who knows the level of influence he has over his brother, he should not have done that. He should have let Kunal figure out this relationship on his own and not gotten into it at all. If anything, he should guided and supported his brother through the process of accepting his mother (if he ever decided to do that in his own time), rather than trying to force him to accept Parul as his mother.

Also, Abir hinted that he had a hand behind Kunal taking the step during the MishBir conversation right after Meenakshi left the venue.

Talking about Kunal, he did decide to give Parul that place in life after listening to points. It was definitely his decision. He chose the people he wanted to discuss the matter with. And I do believe he would have accepted Parul as his mother sooner or later but I do feel that Abir's constant insistence played a bigger role in him choosing to let Parul cut the ribbon. He would have let Meenu do it if it was not for that one conversation.

Having analysed Kunal's character these past few months, I feel that Kunal would have taken the time to think through the decision or it would have been very instinctive and in the moment rather than it being this big gesture.

.i will slightly disagree about mish from your main post & add some about abir.

The rest i agree.

First,u noticed BP's dialogue?

Kunal did the right thing in a wrong way.

See even they know it.

So i completely agree with ur points on abinal. Abir being pushy & kunal being impulsive.

Bt as someone mentioned in previous thread,abir is right now paranoid sensing his mother's cunning moves somehow, misku equation & how masi is being degraded again & again.

So,he had this urgency to atleast make masi no more a servant status lady to avoid some more drama or plotting.

In normal time,abir wouldnot Have pushed nanko.bt,now he is in his band aid mood.trying to fix whatever he can.

So,do i agree with abir's method? No.

Am i angry/ disappointed with him?that's also a no.

Point is i understand abir.

Originally posted by: aquaHP

Hi Sumaiya!

Makes me kind of relieved to know that I wasn't the only one feeling uncomfortable. I don't know how I feel🤔 about sharing a similarity to my cramp-pain expressions but I brought it up so I have to deal with the feeling when someone can relate with it😆

Thank you for appreciating!

Ummm..this also i uunderstands.the sudden excess sweetness.

Bt i feel more cringey when meanu does that to mish.

Or even mishnal for a fact.

How come they are so much in tune type buddy out of nowhere?

In comparison to that, evn though it looks extra sweet,i can digest & be happy about masi & mish.

U told that u remember their preleap equation.

I remember it like this.

Abir introduced masi as family & since than mish & even kuhu respected her.

Mish nvr measures someone on their status, so She readily asked masi to cheer with Her & enjoyed drinks like family,on the very first day of kushti gd.Forget kunal,not even benba considered parul that much high as human before.

Parul liked her there,instantly. & for the first time ever parul maasi thought, benba mayb wrong about Mishti's quality.

They had a solid separate bonding throughout the show.

When mish knew parul as kunal's mom,she hugged her,took her blessing & fed her kheer.

As a girl whose parents left her for everything else in world,Mishti was overwhelmed to see parul who left her everything -family,self respect even mother's right - for her son.

Since then,mish was always awed of masi.

Her attitude & lil nuances proved that.

Even after revealing the birth truth,it was not kunal bt masi from whom she actually seeked forgiveness.

I can go on & on.my point is, masi & Mishti's bond is irrespective of any familiar bonds.

And both always try to help the other one Out. Sometimes in ott way.i admit.

Bt that pond is pure.

& how they act now,i find it real.

Rather the somethingness they consistently hype bt i really dont get it.

(I'm sry about the rant & the last punch line.bt i am really angry with abir's too much pampering of kuhu.kunal got a slap & kuhu Was let free????for the same crime?

They are so unfair on my nankooo!)

Originally posted by: Itsflora

I wanted to be mean & Say,should mish really care about meanu???

After everything?

She shouldn’t.

She better enjoy the lil moments with her fav people.

Also it was about kunal,his mom!why mishti will bother with explanation?abir had some idea bt She didn’t know about this Before anyway.

Bt i wont be mean like that & try to be logical.everyone knws kuhu- meanu bond better, so they were taking care of the other imp woman they have in house. & they let kuhu take care of meanu & they did their everyday sab kuch mishti ki wajah se!

Why parul is so imp,i will try explain in my next post.plz have a look if u want.

Okay.now i will be honest!

Stupid effing Editors.

Rhesha scene was added separately, so there were lack of scene.

& whatever family scene MishBir had, they chopped it.

U can check the bts.

Mishti is not bothered about meenu it is fine but she herself choose to live in the same house abir asked her to think about living separately but she herself donot want to live separately so it's her duty to check on her she is also her mother in law . Its kunal truth so she didn't give explanation but atleast talk to your family asked them how are they. Mishti herself accept the condition that she will never interfere in .kuhu's life but still she interfere in kuhu's life unintentionaly atleast she has to draw a line for that when kunal comes to her for advice she needs to send kunal to kuhu as all 3 share the similar conditions kuhu did a blunder during shivratri but it was basically abir's decision not to punish kuhu .

Originally posted by: Itsflora

I will slightly disagree about mish from your main post & add some about abir.

The rest i agree.

First, u noticed BP's dialogue?

Kunal did the right thing in a wrong way.

See even they know it.

So i completely agree with ur points on abinal. Abir being pushy & kunal being impulsive.

Bt as someone mentioned in previous thread,abir is right now paranoid sensing his mother's cunning moves somehow, misku equation & how masi is being degraded again & again.

So,he had this urgency to atleast make masi no more a servant status lady to avoid some more drama or plotting.

In normal time, Abir would not have pushed nanko but,now he is in his band aid mood trying to fix whatever he can.

So, do i agree with abir's method? No.

Am i angry/disappointed with him? That's also a no.

Point is I understand abir.

Hey flora!

I understand why Abir did this as well but I feel that this was not the only way to save Parul. I see why Abir is doing what he is doing but he is messing the situation up for later. This is definitely to build up drama for further episodes but I choose to see it as character traits for Abir because writers will never push the character out of the box/boundary they have created to stir up drama.

So, I see this situation as Abir handling a problem. He is using the experience and knowledge he has with handling a family, which is really not much because before the leap, his character was shown as some banjaara who would leave whenever things seemed too overwhelming and Kunal would deal with everything and everyone at home. After the leap, he has had to stay in the house day in and day out and dealing with family even in the office. He was probably trying to protect Kunal from being ousted from the jaaydad after Meenu's blackmail. Now, after this marriage, he can't leave the house without leaving Mishti alone to deal with a situation. He doesn't have that option anymore. So, this incident basically shows us that he doesn't know how to handle family dynamics because he has never had to do that before. He will need to learn to do that during the course of the show and hopefully he will but it's not happening anytime soon *SPOILER AHEAD* seeing that he has decided that the best plan of action to bring Mishti-Kuhu together would be to fake his and Kunal's kidnapping.