Meenu ki Sachchai Vol. 2: The Reveal💣💥

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Jai Shree Krishna, people of the forum!!🙏🏼

The last post turned out to be such a surprising success ki socha part 2 bana du to discuss today's episode. Before I share my opinions, a big thank you to all who participated and shared their POVs and a bigger thanks because we put in different opinions without fighting. Such a rare thing to happen on the forum these days! Now, let's get to the episode because we've gotten a balanced episode after such a long time.


MEENAKSHI

Up top, I will confess that I did feel bad for Meenu but more than her, I felt bad for Kunal. He is stuck in this mess of a situation without any fault of his but Kunal ke baare me baad me. This post is about the star of today's episode and our favourite BB🐉.

I am still not sure as to how I really see Meenakshi's character. I feel there are different sides to her. Hats off to Rupal Ji's acting skills!smiley32 Watching Meenakshi is like watching multiple split personalities exist at the same time and I felt we saw all of her personalities in today's episode

1. Meenu/Maa, the mother: The one who accepted Kunal as her own son and raised the two kids to be each other's shield; to be more than real brothers. (The one that got hurt by Kunal's move. The one who told him that she wouldn't have stopped him if he had told her that he wanted the ribbon cutting to be done by Parul).

2. Big Ben, the schemer: The one who is continuously observing each and every person and knows what might trigger them. She is always in character (Even when she was upset, she remembered to stay in character and tell Kuhu that she accepted both Mishti and Kuhu as her own daughter. She even tried to provoke Kuhu by constantly asking her if it was all Mishti's doing.)

3. Benba, RV family's matriarch: The businesswoman who cares about keeping the family together. The one who is Parul's friend. We only ever saw this version in it's entirety after the leap when she didn't have to worry about Baba or Mishti. (We saw this version when she spoke with Naanu).

4. Meenakshi Rajvansh, the narcissist and control freak: The one who cares only about herself. The one for whom only her wishes, her authority and her image are the priority (We see her emerge in the conversation with Abir).

All these different versions/personalities exist at the same time in different degrees. What we get to see the most is the 2nd and 4th one because her darker shades overpower her lighter shades. She believes herself to be the mother and the matriarch, probably because that's who she was till the time Mehul was in her life. The darker shades grew and developed as a defence mechanism and then as a survival technique.

Now, I'm gonna move on to other members of the family.


KUNAL

The poor guy can't even understand where he stands in all this mess he has unwittingly created. I feel that since he was a kid, he was taught (by Meenu) that when in doubt, do whatever would make Abir happy (and vice versa for Abir but that didn't sink in for Abir as much as it did for Kunal because he didn't trust his mother completely). As I mentioned above, Meenakshi taught them to be brothers first before anything else and that is what backfired on her today. He is Abir's Nanko before he is Meenakshi/Parul's son.

The problem in Kunal's case is that he doesn't know who he is if he can't be defined by a relation. He has been doing a balancing act between being the best brother and the best son that there was no space left for his own identity. That is the confusion that we've seen in the last few episodes and that is where Meenu's teaching comes in and it becomes a cycle turning him into only and only Nanko.


ABIR

The problem I had with Abir's approach (and my issue with Abir's character in general), he is well aware of Kunal's behaviour and his characteristics. He has himself mentioned this many a times throughout the past year. The issue I have with Abir is that he uses this knowledge according to his convenience. He wants Kunal to have his own identity and make his own decisions but when the time comes, he always swoops in and influences him and then acts as if he had nothing to do with it. What he knows but will never accept is that he has the kind of control over Nanko that Meenakshi wishes to have over him. If I have to over-simplify it, I would say Abir is basically a positive Meenakshi. They both have very similar characteristics and methods of execution, only the intent and motivation is different.

Coming to the conversation between Abir and Meenakshi, it clearly shows that they don't trust each other. There was some hope of this relationship building back up again during the MishBir GD but BB crushed whatever was left with targetting people that Abir held closest to his heart.

Also, the one dialogue that stuck out for me the most was when BB says that he will have to hear the whole truth which basically hints that there is much more to this Sautan saga than has been told till now which frankly gives me hope that the writers have planned till the "Second adhyaya of Baba's story" and the show will not be destroyed till such time (*cough* like the *cough* parent show *cough*). The scene also confirmed the theory that BB never saw Parul as an equal but she also did not make her a house help. She had taken her in and Parul herself took on responsibilities to aid Meenakshi in her quest of being a single parent and businesswoman. This reminds of a point by @dramaqueen/@samanalyse/both that Parul and Meenakshi are basically partners, one is a homemaker and the other, a breadwinner. I do feel the question as to why she took her in must have more to it than just "insaaniyat" on BB's part.


KUHU

Can I just say that I was so pleasantly surprised to see the sensible Kuhu come back in bits and parts today??smiley41 She put aside her anger and need for attention and focussed on Meenu and Kunal. Well, not completely but jitne bhi der ke liye kiya, I was happy for it. I am just gonna edit and quote Sam's post here because she wrote all my feelings before I had even seen the episode.

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

It was also wonderful to see glimpses of Kuhu at her best -- being the pragmatic anchor of the family, and trying to ease the tension of the overall situation in a systematic way. I love that Nanu specifically asked Kuhu to take him to Meenu. smiley19

If we use our handy filters to look past the OTT dialogues (especially the one in the precap), it's very easy to understand her anger and confusion over this situation. Both she and Varsha also empathise with Meenu instinctively because their relationship mirrors Meenu and Kunal's. If anyone can begin to understand what Meenu must be feeling right now, it's Varsha.

Moreover, when she was deciding whether to stay in her marriage or not, it was Meenu who validated her as a bahu and an integral part of the family. She has no idea that Meenu is being disingenuous, so her affinity and loyalty towards her makes perfect sense. Combine that with how she equates Kunal hurting Meenu with Varsha being hurt in the same way, and you can see why this impulsive act of Kunal's will have her flying off the wall.

I know we didn't get a Kuku scene, but can I just fangirl over the fact that in the aftermath of this seismic shock, Kunal was taking care of her parents and explaining to them, while Kuhu took care of his mom and tried to reason with her? smiley27

I don't think I need to say anything more but if anyone does want to read my initial thoughts on the episode, they exist on the KuKu AT page 96.

Also, I know she is going to be shown going over the line tomorrow with the 'Naukrani' comment and weirdly, it still won't be out of character because that's how her character has been written. She gets easily influenced. Has anyone else noticed that both MishKu fixate and overthink on Jasmeet and Meenakshi's words but in Mishti's case, she has people who are there to stop that fixation at the overthinking stage but for Kuhu, people either shut her down or scold her. Take BM and Varsha for example, the same women sense Mishti's worries and guide her properly (Friday's episode) but when it comes to Kuhu, they see her be sad and instead of asking and understanding, they shout at her and scold her (Holi episode). These Maheshwaris are just giving me more and more ammunition to hate them by being biased😒.


MISHTI

Mishti's scenes with Parul were super sweet but I had to keep reminding myself of the bond they shared before the leap so that I could see the scenes neutrally. Am I the only one who feels that Mishti expressions looked overly sweet in the last 2 episodes? It reminded me of the fake smiley face I make during "mahino ke unn din" so that nobody finds out how much pain I am actually in (Probably Rhea was in pain, who knows?) It made me really uncomfortable which is probably how some of you felt while reading the previous line. I really don't have a lot to say about Mishti except that she should have shown Abir the mirror rather than praising him for said move.

Coming to the actual point here, I really think Mishti and Abir need a better example to hold a family together than Mr. BP "Mukhiya" Maheshwari, otherwise they will keep praising each other assuming they have successfully handled a situation but in actuality, they will keep ruining family dynamics to make one person super happy. Don't get me wrong. I loved that they made Parul happy by giving her the "darja" that has been talked about since the shivratri episode but this decision just makes one person happy and leaves other family members either shocked/surprised, confused, sad or angry. They have no choice but to get over what they are feeling and accept the consequences no matter what. You can't judge what is good for your family members through a million views on a video. This is not the way to handle a family and if this is how they are instinctively going to handle family dynamics, RV fam should be scared for their future. I use the word "scared" because every move like this will be a move against BB and we know what that will lead to: 💣💥


PARUL

Parul looked so happy todaysmiley31 and Kunal looked confused happy because he is still not sure what he feels about Parul because Abir ne kari jaldbaazi. Also, I loved how Parul, even though happy, was worried about her SO, our BB. There's really not much to say about Parul because even she didn't have much to say in today's episode.

Shuruaat BB se kari thi to end unki jeevan sangini se hi to karenge na and also, because this is the last time Parul will ever be happy. This is the beginning of the end for Parul. Jis din saare sapne poore hue, usi din barbaadi ki shuruaat ho gayi. *Dun dun dun🎹*


In the end, I have to say that the writers have done a great job in creating the characters. Each character is so layered and flawed that even after so many months of watching this show, I keep discovering new things about each character and the way they are written. This is probably the first show where every character has flaws, even the main leads. smiley32smiley32smiley32


P.S. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings by saying anything bad about your favourite character. I tried to be as polite and general as I could but it was a POV post so 🙈.


P.P.S. How have there not been any full-length pictures of Kaveri and Rhea in the outfits they were wearing today? They both looked so gorgeous!!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I just don't understand how everyone is accountable for their good and bad actions but Mishti and Abir are held responsible for Kuhu and Kunal's wrongdoing?


Mishti is female lead, she won't fake smile at Parul, unless they have decided to make Kuhu the female lead and Mishti the negative unnecessary character

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after watching episode i got to know few things...

meenu ko kunal se pyaar hain but not more than her EGO, self respect and as abir said to mishti bas meenu sab kuch uski according se honi chahiye... so yes meenu when black mailed abir about the same issue in same manner but kunal did what meenu wanted todo... but uski marzki ke khilaaf..


when meenu met kunal in temple she shown her love for him but when abir spoke to her it is not the love for kunal but its her self respect demeaned in public...


when meenu said i dont want this to come out... then why did u say this abir to break his relation with mishti... when mishti got to know she is quiet and didnt even said to abir as its sacrifice of parul-meenu but now meenu blaming mishti...


meenu want to say bad about mehul but abir couldnt take that much bad about his father so yes mehul still affects abir and i think a come back for mehul is needed or mishti should say everything to every one because she has lot more info of mehul than meenu...


meenu said i taken parul for insaniyaat but i never felt like that not because parul is servant but meenu manipulated parul in such a way that parul autometically takes blame of all meenu's wrong doings and meenu once take teach parul a lesson cried fakely infront of kunal and kunal gave left right to parul and meenu is happy about it and now when kunal respected parul meenu gone nuts...


abir asks meenu if me and kunal both are sons of this house then u and parul should be also same but meenu says i never asked her to do servant works but im sure the manipulation meenu done to make parul do this and i want to know when she didnt try to stop parul if she dont want it but her made sense to me that she is not meenakshi rajvansh... abir wanted parul's right, respect from all not meenu's social status... meenu can keep a distant relative or friend but she made her servant bali ka bakri in all kaand's...


meenu wants everything according to her and said i dont that man influence on my children but mishti protected ur children not u MEENU...


meenu even said still mishti's father influence is on mishti i mean mishti's father truth is not known to mishti but meenu herself made mishti known mishti's father's truth infront of everyone of mishnal GD... she brought naman , meenu framed naman in killing her so that abinal go nuts and cancels GD with mishti but kunal knows the hurt of break up didnt do it... and someone pls explain me... mishti apne jaan pe khel ke meenu ko bachaya on mishnal GD cant meenu or kunal see that she is not like her father and kunal should be thankful to mishti that he saved her mother even the trap is planed by her...


meenu ko BM-BP ki parvarish par shaq nahi hain but naman ke blood se hain then it goes with abinal too... khoon tho mehul,meenu and parul ka hain but parvarish tho meenu, parul and naanu ka... so if u go by blood abinal and mishti stands same... in both case father is fraud and murderer... bas mishti ka ek aur extra tag that her left her for second marriage...


but alas... im waiting for meenu to bring mishku trurth out...i want know what truths she will bring out and how... i mean in social media, tv or infront of families...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM

I just don't understand how everyone is accountable for their good and bad actions but Mishti and Abir are held responsible for Kuhu and Kunal's wrongdoing?


Mishti is female lead, she won't fake smile at Parul, unless they have decided to make Kuhu the female lead and Mishti the negative unnecessary character

I am not holding Mishti and Abir accountable for Kuhu and Kunal's actions. I am holding them accountable for their own actions. It was wrong of them to meddle in a situation which did not affect them at all. It was between Meenu, Parul and Kunal and they decided to step in or rather Abir did and took Mishti in.

Coming to the smiling thing, I was just talking about expression making me feel uncomfortable. That was a personal opinion because at the end of the day, it is a POV post. It's okay if you don't feel the same way. You don't have to be mean to Kuhu about it. She didn't tell me to write it.

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Originally posted by: aquaHP

I am not holding Mishti and Abir accountable for Kuhu and Kunal's actions. I am holding them accountable for their own actions. It was wrong of them to meddle in a situation which did not affect them at all. It was between Meenu, Parul and Kunal and they decided to step in or rather Abir did and took Mishti in.

Coming to the smiling thing, I was just talking about expression making me feel uncomfortable. That was a personal opinion because at the end of the day, it is a POV post. It's okay if you don't feel the same way. You don't have to be mean to Kuhu about it. She didn't tell me to write it.

aaqua its kunal's solo decision... u r seeing kuku-meenu and others are seeing mishbir-parul... i will go with parul because of meenu... just to get abir married she sent parul to jail... so for me if mishbir did everything to make it then im in their support... and yes due to mishbir only show will move forward and all are supporting them as they are show leads... im not saying leads are mahaan but everyone has flaws and everyone are layered...
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Originally posted by: ruhi19

after watching episode i got to know few things...

meenu ko kunal se pyaar hain but not more than her EGO, self respect and as abir said to mishti bas meenu sab kuch uski according se honi chahiye... so yes meenu when black mailed abir about the same issue in same manner but kunal did what meenu wanted todo... but uski marzki ke khilaaf..


when meenu met kunal in temple she shown her love for him but when abir spoke to her it is not the love for kunal but its her self respect demeaned in public...


when meenu said i dont want this to come out... then why did u say this abir to break his relation with mishti... when mishti got to know she is quiet and didnt even said to abir as its sacrifice of parul-meenu but now meenu blaming mishti...


meenu want to say bad about mehul but abir couldnt take that much bad about his father so yes mehul still affects abir and i think a come back for mehul is needed or mishti should say everything to every one because she has lot more info of mehul than meenu...


meenu said i taken parul for insaniyaat but i never felt like that not because parul is servant but meenu manipulated parul in such a way that parul autometically takes blame of all meenu's wrong doings and meenu once take teach parul a lesson cried fakely infront of kunal and kunal gave left right to parul and meenu is happy about it and now when kunal respected parul meenu gone nuts...


abir asks meenu if me and kunal both are sons of this house then u and parul should be also same but meenu says i never asked her to do servant works but im sure the manipulation meenu done to make parul do this and i want to know when she didnt try to stop parul if she dont want it but her made sense to me that she is not meenakshi rajvansh... abir wanted parul's right, respect from all not meenu's social status... meenu can keep a distant relative or friend but she made her servant bali ka bakri in all kaand's...


meenu wants everything according to her and said i dont that man influence on my children but mishti protected ur children not u MEENU...


meenu even said still mishti's father influence is on mishti i mean mishti's father truth is not known to mishti but meenu herself made mishti known mishti's father's truth infront of everyone of mishnal GD... she brought naman , meenu framed naman in killing her so that abinal go nuts and cancels GD with mishti but kunal knows the hurt of break up didnt do it... and someone pls explain me... mishti apne jaan pe khel ke meenu ko bachaya on mishnal GD cant meenu or kunal see that she is not like her father and kunal should be thankful to mishti that he saved her mother even the trap is planed by her...


meenu ko BM-BP ki parvarish par shaq nahi hain but naman ke blood se hain then it goes with abinal too... khoon tho mehul,meenu and parul ka hain but parvarish tho meenu, parul and naanu ka... so if u go by blood abinal and mishti stands same... in both case father is fraud and murderer... bas mishti ka ek aur extra tag that her left her for second marriage...


but alas... im waiting for meenu to bring mishku trurth out...i want know what truths she will bring out and how... i mean in social media, tv or infront of families...

Wow! You wrote this very fast, Ruhi!

I am excited to find out what truth Meenu is talking about too! If it's just about the two not liking each other then this plan is already a fail because everyone has seen the two fight during the divorce paper thing. Seems like Meenu has no idea about that incident. She was busy acting in front of Naanu and making Kuhu her pawn.

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Wow! You wrote this very fast, Ruhi!

I am excited to find out what truth Meenu is talking about too! If it's just about the two not liking each other then this plan is already a fail because everyone has seen the two fight during the divorce paper thing. Seems like Meenu has no idea about that incident. She was busy acting in front of Naanu and making Kuhu her pawn.

bang on...u got it... meenu acts according to persons...uss ke liye abir-kunal kuch nahi hain tho koyi aur kyon matter karega...


P.S: i alreday posted this in nami thread of abir-meenu and i posted it here again...

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Originally posted by: ruhi19

aaqua its kunal's solo decision... u r seeing kuku-meenu and others are seeing mishbir-parul... i will go with parul because of meenu... just to get abir married she sent parul to jail... so for me if mishbir did everything to make it then im in their support... and yes due to mishbir only show will move forward and all are supporting them as they are show leads... im not saying leads are mahaan but everyone has flaws and everyone are layered...

I agree with your points here but as I had said in the first thread, there could have been so many other ways to save Parul from BB but this was the fastest move. Others would have required time and patience and actual effort to make Parul and Kunal bond.

What Abir hasn't realised yet is that he has indirectly upgraded Parul from the status of a pawn to a target.

EDIT: I am not seeing KuKu-Parul here. I am actually seeing Meenu-Kunal-Parul. Kuhu doesn't have much of a role to play in this dynamic yet.

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I agree with your points here but as I had said in the first thread, there could have been so many other ways to save Parul from BB but this was the fastest move. Others would have required time and patience and actual effort to make Parul and Kunal bond.

What Abir hasn't realised yet is that he has indirectly upgraded Parul from the status of a pawn to a target.

EDIT: I am not seeing KuKu-Parul here. I am actually seeing Meenu-Kunal-Parul. Kuhu doesn't have much of a role to play in this dynamic yet.

kuhu has dynamics here...u will get to know... as it related her husband and her husband both moms... kuhu could have handled meenu but she is safe siding herself from meenu's burnt... she handled meenu very well today but why couldnt she stop reporters asking questions to meenu and why mishti has to stop them... as its kuhu's event, her husband's company, demeaning her saas but mishti took the lead the stop that reporters but then it carried by kuhu...


everything and everyone are connected... u cant see this from one end...


abir is playing but not concentrated on results but when he concentrate on results the actual play from start there...


colletral damage will be mishti and kunal will anchor her...


kunal is not a person to acept easily... he feels but cant shown in actions... he should be pushed by circumstances... as i can say when kunal said yes to GD with mishti when some auntys are commenting about mishnal after news paper article... he wangted to move on with out asking abir or meenu... his actions based on circumstances...


if u see even kunal agreed for marriage with kuhu after their talk in jeep (which is rishta swap later to mishti but kunal cant reject his mom) not abir advised him to get married...

Edited by ruhi19 - 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: aquaHP

I am not holding Mishti and Abir accountable for Kuhu and Kunal's actions. I am holding them accountable for their own actions. It was wrong of them to meddle in a situation which did not affect them at all. It was between Meenu, Parul and Kunal and they decided to step in or rather Abir did and took Mishti in.

Coming to the smiling thing, I was just talking about expression making me feel uncomfortable. That was a personal opinion because at the end of the day, it is a POV post. It's okay if you don't feel the same way. You don't have to be mean to Kuhu about it. She didn't tell me to write it.


It was Kunal who went to Abir for advice on this matter, it was Kunal who went to Mishti, it was Kunal who announced it. It's just that there's always an underlying tone of blaming Abir and Mishti for everything Kunal and Kuhu do, Kunal made this decision, Abir and Mishti were just happy with this decision and they supported it


Kuhu can not tell you to write it and I wasn't being mean to her because she does not exist

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