The Hypocrisy of Moral Code (ML vs FL) DT Note Pg 5 (Edtd 12.06) - Page 6

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Posted: 5 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: hope4u

I have to agree.. Itv has different bars to measure th ML and FL. But maybe that's because the audience is that way?

Since you've listed out the comparisons between the ML and FL, let me do the honors of listing out how the FL and supporting actor, or as some would argue the parallel ML are treated differently.

Prerna is expected to worship the ground he walks on. Even though her marriage to him happened in less than ideal situation she was bashed all the time because she didn't develop feelings for him, because she pined for the love she had lost. Prerna even making rotis for someone else in the middle of the night was disgusting, but Bajaj propositioning a woman half his age, who was pregnant and engaged at that time with a "deal" was cool, coz hey, she agreed. Mutual consent bro!

If kuki is dreaming about boys in india, chee, it's all prerna's upbringing..

If she bravely goes to save her mother, bajajs blood after all.

If prerna doesn't console kuki after she regains consciousness, instead asks about anurag, she is the worst mother. So much so that her own daughter is better off without her.

But Bajaj calls kuki only to talk to prerna, because he couldn't reach her phone, and doesn't have a single word to ask his daughter how she is,alone in a new country, is all OK. He's a man of few words.

Prerna has still not moved on from her past. In 8 years she has not fallen head over heels with this man who saved her. She was betrayed by one man so the solution, if she were a strong woman would be to move on with another. She hasn't done that. So She is hopeless, spineless, loser etc etc..

But Bajaj continues to love a woman who has neither led him on nor given any such hint is the greatest love of them all.


See. Hypocrisy exists everywhere. 🤷🏾‍♀️And since Bajaj is such an important part of kzk and prerna's life, we need to do this comparison too.

Oh well but that's hardly the point here.. This is nothing but the anurag bashing topic of the day. Carry on and have fun!

Great points hope! More than anything the bad parenting bit shocked me the most. Talk about feminism and put most of the blame on the mother(in this case the step mother). Its true that itv is sexist and we the educated urban viewers too are. This forum is itself a great example of that where the FL gets trashed by fans of both the ML and Parallel Lead depending on who she is with. If she makes roti/chai for her ex BF, she is trash and having an EMA. She doesn't fall in love with the character I stan , she is totally worthless..not worthy of my man at all. When and whether she wants to move on in life should be completely her choice..isn't it? Even if she is stuck in her past, do you think it is ok to shame her for that? She is a successful business woman today but all her success is attributed to the Parallel lead even when it was made clear that she did not use his contacts.She takes a business decision and everybody is sure she will dubao his money. She is nothing without his surname.I have been reading such posts on a daily basis here. Such blatant sexism 🤷‍♀️

This thread actually got me thinking. In a normal forum, this would have made for a great topic of discussion but this is kzk forum 🤔

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Posted: 5 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: TeAmo_Messi


Some more -


Prerna loving Anurag and being his secretary is spineless but Bajaj loving prerna and making her a full time forced mother of his child is some Oscar Worthy love.


Anurag peeping in their bedroom is creepy but Bajaj hiding the pregnancy truth from Anu and still threatening Anu to not love prerna is classy.


Mohini bashing Prerna for Anu in hospital is regressive but Bajaj scolding prerna over kuki's minor hurt is father's concern.


Anurag throwing prerna to give her a new life is cowardice but Bajaj stopping her from facing Anurag and asking her to parent kuki is a bravo worthy act ? Like who the hell tells a traumatized woman about parenting their own kid? What was that ?


Prerna winning awards and crediting Bajaj in front of the media makes her strong woman, but same prerna coming back to face her betrayer husband and get answers is spineless.


Anurag accepting that he made a mistake by having ONS with komo is spineless but Bajaj never accepting that he played with a pregnant and helpless woman's emotions to satisfy his ego is praiseworthy.


Anurag spending 8 years with komo to keep his family safe and happy is again spineless but Bajaj ruining someone else's marriage to satisfy his child with a purchased mother is human act.


Anurag setting up divers to save prerna is lame but Bajaj waiting for prerna to fall instead of saving her beforehand is heroic.. I am super impressed actually

this actually a analysis worth th8ng

bajaj is waiting that anu to push pre so he save her🤣

u strick back at right momemt

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Posted: 5 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Italics : Same. In fact, that would take away from them in the future if they had.


Bold : With ITV this is really constant. The pregnancy thing should have mattered to both. But it was made one sided so that the FL could take the blame. The tracks are written as such that whatever happens,the sympathy is with the ML. That's that.


yes track has written like that .. in last bajaj track Prerna's character clearly was full of EMA . CV horribly tried to shape her character as disloyal to her husband for saving the image of ML..

even again in last komo track before bajaj .. they tried to change the moral code of prerna , during Anulika SR arranging scene she craved to get Anurag once again in her life wher eon that moment she dint know sona is komo, and also as per that current scene , sona saved anu and they legally married..

but cv amazingly brought a track for ML 's memory losing where whatever he did with his wife ,it will be justified as he has no memory ..

unfortunately , ITV cvs are maximum time , ML pro more than FL.. where they put justification for ML , but not for FL unfortunately 👎🏼

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Posted: 5 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: NoraSM



1 What? You don't get Oscar for loving someone, these things don't correlate and are untrue because Bajaj didn't love Prerna back then


2 Why would Bajaj tell Anurag about Prerna's pregnancy? It was Prerna who hid her pregnancy truth


3 Mohini is progressive, there you go


4 Anurag trying to kill Prerna to save her from what? How did he save himself from Prerna's murder charge? How is he saving Komolika who was a convict in Murder charge of Prerna's father? He couldn't fight in court and save Prerna? Lol, especially when Prerna had a gunshot which could prove that whatever she did was in self defense.


Mr. Bajaj didn't ask her to take care of Kuki when she wanted to ask questions to Anurag, you have mixed up scenes. Prerna wanted to commit suicide when dearest Anurag took away her child, Mr. Bajaj put Kuki's name to give her a reason to live, He said Kuki needs her so Prerna has a reason to live


5 Prerna winning award was because Mr. Bajaj gave her that chance, as Anurag's girlfriend all she got to do was set up his and komolika's wedding bed and cry, Mr Bajaj taught her business and none called her spineless, that word is for Anurag, for taking revenge, she falters when she dreams about romancing a man who tried to kill her and killed her baby in her own words


6 Anurag calling his child a mistake is not spineless, it is classic Anurag Basu. Bajaj mended his ways and united Anurag - Prerna


7 How can Bajaj save Prerna before Anurag pushed her? I mean what were the chances of soulmate being stupid enough to put Prerna's life at risk, it's not like Anurag told his plan to everyone 🙄

It's classic whataboutism,Nora. Ignore it. Because there's nothing to say to defend the topic itself 😆 Making it seem like everything that happens in KZK is because of Bajaj. No fault of anyone else lol. That makes him the God and everyone else puppets and that's fine I guess 🤷

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Posted: 5 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: falah5

Didn't even had to search for old prev bajaj track posts.. I just scrolled down and look what I found.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/kasautii-zindagii-kay-2/5155757/prerna-was-in-self-trolling-mode-today

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Please do take ur time to read.. Interesting post with even morw interesting replies and tags for prerna..

"Worst FL, ""just knows to play soulmate soulmate "

Exactly the kind of posts I was talking about. She is worthless because she doesn’t fall in love with my man.🤷‍♀️ Sexist much?

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Posted: 5 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: moniloveanupre

this actually a analysis worth th8ng

bajaj is waiting that anu to push pre so he save her🤣

u strick back at right momemt

I mean what if the ML didn't push the FL in the first place. There wouldn't be chance for Bajaj then no? 😆


If it's completely logical for a ML to throw a FL in broad daylight then Bajaj saving her in the nick of time is logical as well. In fact, if he didn't Prerna would have drowned. Now... we don't want that,do we. 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: falah5

So you expect her to be grateful although bajaj let's her be - Grateful or not..

Hmm.. So much for itv fans putting FL on pedestal😆& having expectations from her

Nope. I'd say it makes sense for her to be grateful. Wouldnt anyone be grateful to someone who saved their life. She was drowning and the invisible divers were nowhere to be seen. That's actually common courtesy.

I think you got my post wrong from the very start and I didnt bother correcting it 😆 ITV puts the MLs on a pedestal not FLs. LOL.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#58

Judgememt and analysis of a track or sequence must be done based on 'What is shown'.


But its all about 'Who has done it'. Reason for this show ML who is the most spineless male character ever goes scot-free everytime inspite of being wrong from the time of Komo1 entry. He let a woman like Komo to win, without even fighting or let the person in question to know abt it or let tht person fight. Not once but twice. That says it all. I am not writing in detail abt what all was shown abt this character in previous RB track by the same writers who never properly justified those stuff 😆


As far as ITV FLs are concerned, they will be the last person to not get judged for what is shown. Let alone Why How etc. Thts ITV audience for you 😛


Particularly this show FL is judged by purely basis 'Who she is with'. (Not anyone's fault as she has no own identity anyways and what she does 😆)


It has become a practise. Cant see this perspective changing in near future. Sad reality of ITV standard.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Doppelganger-

Great points hope! More than anything the bad parenting bit shocked me the most. Talk about feminism and put most of the blame on the mother(in this case the step mother). Its true that itv is sexist and we the educated urban viewers too are. This forum is itself a great example of that where the FL gets trashed by fans of both the ML and Parallel Lead depending on who she is with. If she makes roti/chai for her ex BF, she is trash and having an EMA. She doesn't fall in love with the character I stan , she is totally worthless..not worthy of my man at all. When and whether she wants to move on in life should be completely her choice..isn't it? Even if she is stuck in her past, do you think it is ok to shame her for that? She is a successful business woman today but all her success is attributed to the Parallel lead even when it was made clear that she did not use his contacts.She takes a business decision and everybody is sure she will dubao his money. She is nothing without his surname.I have been reading such posts on a daily basis here. Such blatant sexism 🤷‍♀️

This thread actually got me thinking. In a normal forum, this would have made for a great topic of discussion but this is kzk forum 🤔

Exactly.. This problem originates from the level of the writing, directing and goes on upto the viewers ending with fans like us who post in such forums and discuss.

A couple more instances I hated.

When pre says she wants to go back to india coz she has lived upto her end of the deal and acquired 3 companies, bajaj says she did it coz he created problems in the original owners life. Was that really necessary? So are you trying to say that she could not have achieved anything if you hadn't cleared the path for her? How demoralizing and degrading to a woman. Why was that dialogue even necessary?

Yet another time, was after the end of Komo 1 track where many of us kept waiting for anurag to apologize to Pre for the humiliation but we never got it. It was just brushed under the carpet. She deserved an apology then.

This is exactly why I said this is problem with every male and female character in itv. And I agree with you, it would've made for an interesting discussion anywhere else where just 1 character would not be seated on a pedestal and be above reproach.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: shin-chan

Judgememt and analysis of a track or sequence must be done based on 'What is shown'.


But its all about 'Who has done it'. Reason for this show ML who is the most spineless male character ever goes scot-free everytime inspite of being wrong from the time of Komo1 entry. He let a woman like Komo to win, without even fighting or let the person in question to know abt it or let tht person fight. Not once but twice. That says it all. I am not writing in detail abt what all was shown abt this character in previous RB track by the same writers who never properly justified those stuff 😆


As far as ITV FLs are concerned, they will be the last person to not get judged for what is shown. Let alone Why How etc. Thts ITV audience for you 😛


Particularly this show FL is judged by purely basis 'Who she is with'. (Not anyone's fault as she has no own identity anyways and what she does 😆)


It has become a practise. Cant see this perspective changing in near future. Sad reality of ITV standard.

True! I think ITV gets a special type of joy in making the FL suffer in the hands of the ML over and over again. But while the sympathy mostly stays with them, in KZK2 they always shift it to the ML. For reasons well known 😆

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